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Starbucks baristas say they're fed up with complex custom drink orders that can verge on the ridiculous. One said they were asked to blend egg bites into a drink.Starbucks customers in some cases are pushing drink customization to the limit with modifications that some baristas deem "excessive," "ridiculous," and "disgusting."
More than a dozen current and former baristas across the US and Canada told Insider they were sick of making overly complicated lattes, cold brews, and Refreshers, including so-called TikTok drinks like the $7 iced white mocha.
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"There are no limits to what people can really order," a current Baltimore barista said.
"Some of the things I see are just disgusting," a former Los Angeles barista said.
They said that some drinks had "mile-long stickers" listing order customizations and that sometimes there wouldn't be enough space to fit everything in the cup. Under company policy, custom drinks still have to fit in the cup size customers request.
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Some of the baristas said people had ordered drinks with 20 or more pumps of syrup. Nat El-Hai, a former barista in Beverly Hills, California, shared a photo with Insider of an iced latte she said she made for a customer with 12 shots of coffee and five shots of hazelnut syrup.
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Numerous baristas said they had turned down customers' requests for cake pops and brownies blended into drinks, and one said she had even been asked to blend egg bites into a drink.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/foodanddrink/foodnews/starbucks-baristas-say-they-re-fed-up-with-complex-custom-drink-orders-that-can-verge-on-the-ridiculous-one-said-they-were-asked-to-blend-egg-bites-into-a-drink/ar-AANla6x?ocid=msedgntp
El-Hai told Insider that one customer even asked her to blend banana and milk together and then use that as a base for a latte.
JI7
(89,279 posts)sanatanadharma
(3,740 posts)...demonstrates the underlying problem, people are seeking to get their egos stroked in many ways.
Because individuals lack any understanding of the nature of "Self", they think 'ego' is all.
Ego is an impostor claiming to be in charge; a child-brat yelling "Look at me, look at me".
The longest list of wants and desires, even fulfilled, never fills the emptiness of ego.
Only knowledge of the true "Self" satisfies the hunger for connection.
No quantity of likes, looks, and retweets can ever succor the sad, sickened souls of the ignorant.
zeusdogmom
(999 posts)Venti coffee, dark roast if available, no cream, no sugar.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,380 posts)Wow. You must really like coffee. Or you buy for a group, right?
whistler162
(11,155 posts)blogslug
(38,019 posts)That is what they call their 20oz coffee. The company deserves your snark.
SYFROYH
(34,185 posts)...but then I realized I'm just making life difficult for someone else.
And it's weird because venti is 20 for 20 ounces, but Italy is metric and wouldn't use ounces.
Its a mixed up world.
hlthe2b
(102,420 posts)(of course, paying 50-75% less and not having to encounter anti-maskers is no small bonus)
I'm sure a lot of people have been self-absorbed assholes throughout history. But it is just out of control now.
Rorey
(8,445 posts)I rarely go to Starbucks of my own volition. I don't understand the appeal. Sometimes when my family is all together someone will want it, and we'll all go, but all I ever really want is coffee, and I don't particularly like theirs. I guess I can see why some people want to have them add so many ingredients. It's to make their disgusting coffee palatable.
tavernier
(12,410 posts)Daughter has Zabars beans sent from NYC every other month. But Im basically a tea girl, Earl Grey, which my friend calls perfumed piss.
TheBlackAdder
(28,230 posts)Maru Kitteh
(28,344 posts)Brand does not seem to matter.
And I love tea so I don't know what the deal is.
tavernier
(12,410 posts)I have found that when I add milk and sugar it has a bit of a chocolatey flavor which I enjoy.
Wounded Bear
(58,743 posts)Oh, and their owner is an asshole, too.
csziggy
(34,139 posts)I've been to Starbucks only twice, once because someone gave me a gift certificate there. Since I'd tried their coffee once and detested it, I used it to buy a gift pack to give away to someone who did like their coffee.
Then I got stuck for a week at a hotel that only served Starbucks. I was miserable since I could not drink enough of that swill to alleviate my caffeine withdrawal. Since I was at a seminar that ran eight hours a day I didn't have time or energy to go outside to hunt for better coffee. First thing I did on checking out was to find a place with good coffee and drank two cups.
vercetti2021
(10,156 posts)When I use to go to one of my stores at my previous job, they had a Starbucks inside. The barista who I got to know, he always looked fucking miserable until I approached. Instant happy smile and I think because he had a crush on me because all I ordered was a large dark roast coffee with cream. I'd add my own stevia afterwards. He seemed always just so relieved to see me come in. I miss him a lot and I'm sure he misses me. Good thing we exchanged numbers and he texts me all kind of crazy ass coffee mixes. Like wtf you troglodytes? It's coffee! You don't need three pumps of caramel, one and half pump of whatever the fuck the blue shit is.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,304 posts)Spending several bucks for a specialty drink stopped making sense long time ago.
doc03
(35,389 posts)sugar and hundreds of calories.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,222 posts)If you're concerned in about fat, they have fat free milk or half and half. If you don't want sugar, they have Stevia and even good ol' Sweet n Low.
doc03
(35,389 posts)all the fat and sugar. I don't think they are aware of what they are consuming.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,222 posts)We're fat, not stupid.
Bettie
(16,132 posts)that if only they tell us we're fat, we'll turn and say "OMG! I didn't know that! Thanks for sharing your opinion! I'll get right on another attempt to match your aesthetic!"
Frankly, most of us have done what the multi billion dollar diet industry has told us to do for years and come out fatter than when we started!
TexasBushwhacker
(20,222 posts)is usually what got us the way we are in the first place.
Then there's the "well I'm only trying to help you" excuse. How would they feel if I told them "You know, those dark roots are a dead giveaway that you aren't really blonde"? Or tell a guy whose belly is hanging over his waistband "For God's sake, buy some pants that fit!". I am an adult. If I want your advice, I'll ask for it!
doc03
(35,389 posts)they know they are killing themselves. I am one myself that has battled to keep my weight down all my life. I had a brother that could eat like a horse and not gain a pound.
I have kept my weight fairly steady the last 10 or so years. If I let myself go a couple days I end up putting on 2 or 3 pounds then it takes me weeks to loose. I have a niece with the same problem but don't know how to talk to her without her thinking I am picking on her weight. My older brother 6 years older than me called me a fat slob and shamed me when I was a kid which just made it worse.
Bettie
(16,132 posts)having a coffee drink eats and drinks nothing else?
That you know their entire diet and health history based on seeing them for a few seconds on one day?
"Killing themselves"? Do you know what they eat every day? Do you live their lives? Do you assume that the thin person is killing themselves too?
The fact is that fat people exist in fat bodies. We live in them and we carry extra weight for many reasons.
A lot of us carry extra weight from years of weight cycling, buying a product that is the perfect profit machine because if it fails (and it usually does) the consumer is considered to be 100% at fault.
Diets don't work for the vast majority of people and weight cycling generally leads to people becoming larger.
Ever see the study on the people from that horrible show "The Biggest Loser"? They lost weight and wrecked their metabolism, while being humiliated on national TV.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/6-years-after-the-biggest-loser-metabolism-is-slower-and-weight-is-back-up/
Also: Weight does not equal worth, no matter what some people may think.
obamanut2012
(26,158 posts)obamanut2012
(26,158 posts)I mainly order espresso, espresso con panna, hot tea, unsweetened iced tea, an an iced latte (no sugar) or iced macchiatto (no sugar). I see way more coffees and regular lattes than frapps.
Ferryboat
(925 posts)Refuse to buy into the whole custom coffee scene.
Used to be a reliable place to stop on road trips to get the daily NYT paper. Then they stopped selling papers.
Buns_of_Fire
(17,202 posts)when I order my typical Giganto Triple-Iced Mocha Caramel Macchiato Frappe Made Only From Beans That Have Been Roasted For Precisely Eight Minutes and Milk Only From a Cow Named "Ivy" That Has Been Frothed For Not Less Than Eleven Seconds In A Room With An Ambient Relative Humidity Of Not Greater Than 62 Percent And A Double-Shot Of Expresso. With a twist.
It probably also explains why I usually wind up wearing it instead of drinking it when I offer my constructive criticism that the froth MUST be stirred in counter-clockwise for the proper flavor and aroma.
Hugin
(33,222 posts)Without it, she would have been frijoles long ago.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,380 posts)Those come from beef cattle.
Everyone knows this.
Hugin
(33,222 posts)At this point a good trade for Ivy.
Totally Tunsie
(10,885 posts)betsuni
(25,697 posts)are doing to feel unique and special). "Mommy, Mommy, Mommy, Mommy look at me!"
I had to look up what "egg bites" were. Hell of a lot of sodium. This is David Brooks' bobos stuff. When you're too fancy to just buy eggs and coffee and make breakfast at home.
NameAlreadyTaken
(982 posts)It's bitter and has a burned smell from over roasting. I don't blame these people for trying to salvage it at any cost.
Vinca
(50,318 posts)Years ago I bought a black coffee there (I'm a minimalist) and that's the last time I stepped foot in a Starbucks.
SkylineChili
(30 posts)Yes, NameAlreadyTaken, thank you! It tastes burned, bitter, over roasted. I don't like it at all, but used to have a co-worker who insisted we stop there at every occasion. I can't believe how people buy into the hype that it is somehow, "the best". I have a Technivorm Moccamaster, an easy to use Dutch coffeemaker my husband gave me for Christmas about 11 years ago. Still going strong, still makes the BEST coffee!
JCMach1
(27,580 posts)Note, they did used to be very good in the early/mid 1990s
TexasBushwhacker
(20,222 posts)Yes, the default Pike Place is a medium-dark roast. Just ask for a light roast.
This is getting to be like people bitching about what's on TV. If you don't like it, change the channel!
I still love the off menu Medicine Ball when I have a cold. Peach and green tea with a shot of peppermint syrup and honey.
NameAlreadyTaken
(982 posts)TexasBushwhacker
(20,222 posts)I agree it's pretty stout, but I like it that way.
PJMcK
(22,056 posts)Meh.
brewens
(13,631 posts)it for laughs. That was usually with co-workers getting everyone's order though.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)They made it overly complicated and offered all these bizarre and picky customizations.
betsuni
(25,697 posts)NewHendoLib
(60,026 posts)doc03
(35,389 posts)to the ridiculous drinks they order. By the way what they call iced tea consists of about 4 ounces of actual tea, then they fill the
mixer with ice and add water. I think it is like $2.50. I sure couldn't take the work environment, its non stop the entire shift.
They have a timer by the drive-thru window and have to reach just a few seconds goal to get each order out. So many each hour.
I wouldn't last 1 hour there.
McDonalds coffee is far better and I can get a latte at a local pizza shop that is better for 1/2 the price.
roamer65
(36,747 posts)It would drive me up the wall when I went with him there.
Only time I would go was with him I would just get a small cake or such. I dont like their coffee.
Give me a Dunkin Donuts coffee any day of the week!
Irish_Dem
(47,521 posts)Becomes toxic when it spills over to masks and vaccines.
milestogo
(16,829 posts)Nexus2
(1,261 posts)Its called the service industry for a reason. Unless the customer is rude, abusive, disruptive or potemtially illegal or dangerous, that service, complex as it might be, is your job to provide. Its not up to you to decide if a customer's order is acceptable, let alone palatable.
There's also the option of petitioning company (or the manager of the Starbuck's you're working in?) if your sentiment is wide spread to limit the customization available or other limits you consider reasonable. Heck several people, I know consider paying as much as Starbucks can charge for coffee ridiculous at its base, so mileage is going to vary.
JonAndKatePlusABird
(315 posts)Were not talking about the baristas refusing to add a single pump of syrup, its when the customer has a mile-long list of extra crap that no reasonable person would want in their coffee. Im impatient, and so become annoyed on behalf of the baristas when I see an order like that ahead of me in line. Starbucks receipts shouldnt be Best Buy length.
Starbucks has charcuterie available for purchase; should the Barista be required to add salami and cheese to my latte if I so desire? After all, theyre in the service industry and its not their place to say that that drink would taste like crap.
hlthe2b
(102,420 posts)Such substitutions and customization.
NYC Liberal
(20,138 posts)I agree that is obnoxious.
Takket
(21,644 posts)but the problem isn't the customers, it is Starbucks. If you give people and inch they will take a mile. All starbucks has to do is limit the number of customization if this is that disruptive. Any how many outlandish orders do they get like this? 50%? 25?% 1% 1 in a million? How many is too many?
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Isn't that a laxative? As in Cascara Sagrada?
"Yes, I'll have a Venti Colon Blow, for here please. And the keys to the bathroom."
JNelson6563
(28,151 posts)And some find that defensible, apparently. It's almost as if those very special people out themselves when they see other very special people being criticized. Funny how that works.
obamanut2012
(26,158 posts)By customers and the owners.
Get another job if you don't like being called inappropriate names by customers and your manager.
Get another job if you don't like being made to work off the clock.
Literally the same thing.
These are not customized drinks, these are abusive to the workers and also slows down the lines for everyone.
treestar
(82,383 posts)it won't be profitable if it keeps allowing all that to go on.
tanyev
(42,636 posts)and they're trying to make it happen with their Starbucks order. News flash--if you're getting 20 pumps of syrup in your morning drink there is a Type 2 diabetes diagnosis in your future.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Just order a damn coffee or tea.
Whenever I go there (usually because I have a gift card), I always order a Venti Black Iced Tea, no sugar, lots of ice. Very easy drink. The extra ice makes it easier because they don't have to pour as much (I like my tea on the weaker side) and they don't have to add anything. Couldn't be easier.
treestar
(82,383 posts)is pathetic, too!
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)What is so "prima donna" about a simple glass of iced tea?
treestar
(82,383 posts)I was agreeing with you that the people who ask for crazy drinks are being prima donnas about a drink.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I've been a little touchy lately. Please accept my apology.
Takket
(21,644 posts)Starbucks can just change the rules if it is intolerably bad for their employees
obamanut2012
(26,158 posts)The anti-labor in this thread are horrifying.
Takket
(21,644 posts)I cannot begin to imagine the good fortune in life you have had to consider a fussy drink order to be "abusive". I'm very happy for you that you don't know what real abuse is.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I'm pretty shocked at the nastiness on this thread so far. People are so bitter.
Iggo
(47,578 posts)MineralMan
(146,338 posts)Too fussy. I drink my coffee black. I have no interest in adding anything to my mug. I also dislike paying 10 times the cost of a cup of coffee at a place where the person in front of me needs five minutes just to order what it is he or she wants.
I also don't want the person pouring my cup of coffee to ask my name. I don't want a relationship with a barista. I just want a cup of black coffee. So, I go somewhere else. That's the simplest thing to do.
niyad
(113,628 posts)talks about the way people order (and this was long before the current insanity) and remarks about how people cannot make normal decisions in their lives, but can, for the price of a cup of coffee, feel a defining sense of self.
musette_sf
(10,206 posts)one of those vanilla bullshit things. You know, whatever you want, some vanilla bullshit latte cappa thing. Whatever you got.
Initech
(100,108 posts)Treefrog
(4,170 posts)No sugar, no milk.
I cant remember the last time I went to a Starbucks.
Aristus
(66,478 posts)honest.abe
(8,685 posts)Oh, and we did we mention that Edward wanted the whole thing double blended?
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/starbucks-employee-fired-frappuccino_l_609e9ea7e4b014bd0cab9d60
Meanwhile I am waiting to order a regular tall coffee with..
room for cream.
GoneOffShore
(17,342 posts)Lemon Lyman
(1,351 posts)It's all probably part of some like-seeking contest bullshit. I know they were having a problem with their rewards program due to that. For every dollar you spend there, you get 2 rewards points. They also have little challenges (make 5 purchases, get 100 stars) and double points days. When you get 150 points, you get a Venti drink of your choice or a food item (smaller food items can be had for fewer points).
There used to be a contest type of thing people were playing with each other to see how much $$ they could cram into one free drink. You can google and find it. I know there were people into the low-to-mid hundred dollar figures ($130 or something) bragging about how they'd just set a record. You know, an insane # of pumps of this and additions of that. It wasn't about any kind of tasty anything. It was being a jerkoff and trying to "win" by having the most expensive free drink in history.
Regardless of whether or not you like the place, this kind of stuff is so stupid and the reason we can't have nice things. Kinda' like people returning thousands of dollars worth of stuff to Costco because they can. Costco had to change the return policy because everybody kept returning perfectly good TV's every year or two or three and "upgrading" for free.
Tom Yossarian Joad
(19,231 posts)Or my French Press. I love good coffee but cannot in good conscious pay what Starbucks asks for the products they serve.