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samplegirl

(11,522 posts)
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 07:30 AM Aug 2021

My daughters friends don't want face masks

So they are choosing not to be her friend.
They all have grade school children and think their kids should return to school without a mask.
They also read some of my political post about Covid and taking it out on my daughter.
These young mothers seem to forget that
many times it’s the grandparent that picks up their kids after school.
I’m just as mad as she is for holding her accountable for having common sense.

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My daughters friends don't want face masks (Original Post) samplegirl Aug 2021 OP
I never get a break from idiotic people anymore... I'm starting to have real problems keeping hlthe2b Aug 2021 #1
I mean her Dad and I samplegirl Aug 2021 #2
They're idiots PJMcK Aug 2021 #3
I assume that the political posts to which you refer are on Facebook Sherman A1 Aug 2021 #4
I'd say your daughter is lucky to be rid of such ignorant friends. MLAA Aug 2021 #5
THIS 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻 LenaBaby61 Aug 2021 #19
Exactly! MLAA Aug 2021 #24
We all know only a very few die, not nearly enough to have kept Hortensis Aug 2021 #26
"Vaccination are ticking up, especially among those who didn't "get around to it," LenaBaby61 Aug 2021 #33
In a way, it is good Mr.Bill Aug 2021 #35
Ask them how they feel about ventilator masks since kids are not immune. Vinca Aug 2021 #6
I donated platelets at the blood center I'm retired from and almost none of the crew brewens Aug 2021 #7
That little "throw-in" was a great laugh! MyOwnPeace Aug 2021 #11
Damn! My blood center is all vaccinated and masked TexasBushwhacker Aug 2021 #18
That center, Vitalent, had just sent out the mask mandate for staff again that morning, which brewens Aug 2021 #39
I don't understand how a medical group could reject the vaccine most of them! viva la Aug 2021 #23
YOU are advocating for the safety health of your grandchild's friends. no_hypocrisy Aug 2021 #8
The anti-maskers/anti-vaxxers are saying that they are the only ones with rights. Lonestarblue Aug 2021 #9
The same people who believe that wnylib Aug 2021 #28
Morons Chicagogrl1 Aug 2021 #10
These younger people never grew up with communicable diseases like older folks. Irish_Dem Aug 2021 #12
didnt i read somewhere that polio was JUST recently completely eradicated? samnsara Aug 2021 #14
Right, even these old diseases could make a come back if people don't believe in Irish_Dem Aug 2021 #15
Polio still pops up in the developing world viva la Aug 2021 #22
Seems to be down to just Afghanistan and Pakistan now TexasBushwhacker Aug 2021 #42
Yes to this. Let's hope we beat Covid before a variant comes Hortensis Aug 2021 #27
My mother was a registered nurse during the polio epidemic. Irish_Dem Aug 2021 #31
Dreadful. I was a little child and protected from fear, but Hortensis Aug 2021 #32
Right. People didn't go to the pool or to movies. It was like now. Irish_Dem Aug 2021 #34
:) thinking of little pitchers. Hortensis Aug 2021 #36
Ha! Irish_Dem Aug 2021 #43
That is very true. roamer65 Aug 2021 #41
my grand daughter had a virtual HS graduation in 2019.. she was the ONLY one to mask up.. samnsara Aug 2021 #13
Find a different car pool SkylineChili Aug 2021 #16
Cardinal Burke-- he'd been "fired" by Pope Francis years ago for "being out of step" viva la Aug 2021 #21
Ray Ray is on a vent?!? musette_sf Aug 2021 #29
I'm an old fart and have multigraincracker Aug 2021 #17
Good riddance to bad trash. She will look pretty smart when they all get sick. flying_wahini Aug 2021 #20
Well, she's probably not friends with bad trash (what would that Hortensis Aug 2021 #25
Well, I don't want to clean my oven, but it needs to be done. MissMillie Aug 2021 #30
Odd, isn't it? They want to go on with life as usual but not be "judged." They want to be the judge. halfulglas Aug 2021 #37
If they get sick they will like them. Texaswitchy Aug 2021 #38
Sounds like ur daughter needs better friends. roamer65 Aug 2021 #40

hlthe2b

(102,502 posts)
1. I never get a break from idiotic people anymore... I'm starting to have real problems keeping
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 07:32 AM
Aug 2021

my perspective. sigh...

samplegirl

(11,522 posts)
2. I mean her Dad and I
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 07:37 AM
Aug 2021

picked the kids up from school last year. Her friends no that. Ohio by chart is increasing in Covid.
This whole mask thing is so political that nobody seems to care about the safety of the children I guess until a few dies.

PJMcK

(22,067 posts)
3. They're idiots
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 07:38 AM
Aug 2021

They're putting their own children in grave danger.

For what? To "own the libs?"

Idiots. Bad parents.

ETA: They might as well encourage their kids to go play in traffic.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
4. I assume that the political posts to which you refer are on Facebook
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 07:38 AM
Aug 2021

I would encourage you to refrain from doing so going forward and keep those things away from where they can be seen by your daughters friends. I know of no one who’s mind was changed by a social media political post of statement and many a friendship or family relationship has been damaged by them. I use Facebook, but it is mostly read only and my posts rarely have anything to do with politics or social issues.

As to the masks 😷, likely not much to be done beyond keeping yourself and family members as covered and vaccinated as possible. People are going to do what they want until they either contract the disease or a mandate of one kind or another forces their hand.

MLAA

(17,367 posts)
5. I'd say your daughter is lucky to be rid of such ignorant friends.
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 07:39 AM
Aug 2021


I’m sure it is difficult and sad to lose friends, I hope she can now make new friends with sensible and responsible adults.

LenaBaby61

(6,979 posts)
19. THIS 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 10:07 AM
Aug 2021

IF those kids parents keep allowing them to play in Covid-19 traffic, you know what's more than likely to happen. Those kids and possibly their parents won't be around to be anyone's friends.

Can't stop a person or persons with death wishes

But I'm vaccinated, and WILL stay in the house, mask up on the rare times when I go outside, socially distance and KEEP my hands washed. I don't belong to the tRump death cult nor am I one of these right-winged fools with a death wish.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
26. We all know only a very few die, not nearly enough to have kept
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 10:46 AM
Aug 2021

anti-vaxx from turning into a mass movement.

Hopefully that children are joining those few is starting to make those who haven't gotten vaccinated afraid. Vaccination are ticking up, especially among those who didn't "get around to it," and should gather speed.

LenaBaby61

(6,979 posts)
33. "Vaccination are ticking up, especially among those who didn't "get around to it,"
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 02:24 PM
Aug 2021

and should gather speed."

From your hopeful lips to God's ears 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻

Mr.Bill

(24,358 posts)
35. In a way, it is good
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 03:24 PM
Aug 2021

that they identify themselves. I wish around here they would go back to wearing their red hats.

brewens

(13,651 posts)
7. I donated platelets at the blood center I'm retired from and almost none of the crew
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 07:57 AM
Aug 2021

are vaccinated. It's a small center with about 10 staff. In Idaho. I was there recently enough to have worked with most of them. I knew it wouldn't be great, but I expected more. The lead, who is my best friend there, said she was the only one. That they weren't supposed to talk about it. I told them I really didn't have any choice. My dominatrix said I had to.

MyOwnPeace

(16,951 posts)
11. That little "throw-in" was a great laugh!
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 08:21 AM
Aug 2021

....if only THEY had a dominatrix that told them to "get the damned shot!"

TexasBushwhacker

(20,244 posts)
18. Damn! My blood center is all vaccinated and masked
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 09:39 AM
Aug 2021

but I'm in Houston, which is a hot zone. They don't require vaccines for donors, but they do ask that they mask.

brewens

(13,651 posts)
39. That center, Vitalent, had just sent out the mask mandate for staff again that morning, which
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 08:36 PM
Aug 2021

was last Monday. I showed up with a mask on anyway. I let them reschedule me, but with cases blowing up again around here, I may cancel.

viva la

(3,358 posts)
23. I don't understand how a medical group could reject the vaccine most of them!
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 10:36 AM
Aug 2021

How can they do medical work if they profoundly don't believe in medical science?

I mean, blood centers aren't doing surgery, but I assume they have to obey sanitation rules and understand you have to use new needles because of germs (which are INVISIBLE!) and that you can't mix blood types, and....?

no_hypocrisy

(46,287 posts)
8. YOU are advocating for the safety health of your grandchild's friends.
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 07:57 AM
Aug 2021

YOU are not to be criticized. YOUR DAUGHTER is not to be criticized. And YOUR GRANDDAUGHTER is not to be criticized.

You aren't stopping them from being stupid. Yes, I said stupid. When you know better and are determined to make a poor decision, that's stupid.

You've had your say. You have taught your family well to speak up when it's necessary.

Lonestarblue

(10,148 posts)
9. The anti-maskers/anti-vaxxers are saying that they are the only ones with rights.
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 08:17 AM
Aug 2021

They believe they have the right to do whatever they want but no one else has the right to do whatever they want, such as private businesses requiring vaccination or masks. They attack people wearing masks, sometimes physically, and their actions say that only they have rights. I really think this country is in worse shape than we realize from all the damage the right wing has done over the years.

wnylib

(21,756 posts)
28. The same people who believe that
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 11:14 AM
Aug 2021

only their religious beliefs count in regard to religious freedom.

Totally self-centered tribalists. They are the opposite of freedom and too dumb to realize it.

Chicagogrl1

(422 posts)
10. Morons
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 08:20 AM
Aug 2021

These people were never really friends, if they stop being friends over face masks during a pandemic. The pandemic has really given people an opportunity to show their true colors. I am sorry for your daughter & grand daughter. It is hard to be around such callousness.

Irish_Dem

(47,773 posts)
12. These younger people never grew up with communicable diseases like older folks.
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 08:25 AM
Aug 2021

I remember polio, whooping cough, measles, mumps, etc.
Younger people have no idea what it is like to get sick with these diseases.

samnsara

(17,658 posts)
14. didnt i read somewhere that polio was JUST recently completely eradicated?
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 08:27 AM
Aug 2021

....viruses have only one job..to survive

Irish_Dem

(47,773 posts)
15. Right, even these old diseases could make a come back if people don't believe in
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 08:29 AM
Aug 2021

science or vaccines.

Humans are de-evolving.

viva la

(3,358 posts)
22. Polio still pops up in the developing world
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 10:31 AM
Aug 2021

In the 70s, there were a couple cases in US communities that rejected health care or vaccination. But the virus has got to keep replicating, and if it can't find a host, it can kind of disappear even if there are a few unvaxxed. It's apparently just not here anymore in this hemisphere.
We're a long, long way from that with Covid.
For one thing, the polio vaccine seems to be permanent. Covid's likely going to be more like the flu-- we'll needed boosters maybe every year. Not a big deal for most of us, but watch the loudmouth idiots shriek every fall about magnetism and microchips.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
27. Yes to this. Let's hope we beat Covid before a variant comes
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 10:52 AM
Aug 2021

along that makes the hearts of parents clutch in fear the way polio and measles epidemics did.

Irish_Dem

(47,773 posts)
31. My mother was a registered nurse during the polio epidemic.
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 12:54 PM
Aug 2021

Everyone was really afraid during that time. She tells stories of healthy young man just falling in their tracks, literally dropping dead or incapacitated. And she told stories of working with people in iron lungs. It made an impression on my as I heard these stories from her.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
32. Dreadful. I was a little child and protected from fear, but
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 02:22 PM
Aug 2021

one year I became aware in a real way of an especially bad polio summer because it was talked about so much and especially because the park we played at and the public pool were closed. Probably like these summers that so many children have spent playing alone at home.

Irish_Dem

(47,773 posts)
34. Right. People didn't go to the pool or to movies. It was like now.
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 03:20 PM
Aug 2021

My great aunt and aunt were nurses, like my mother, and I would hear them talking.
I was a little pitcher with big ears.

samnsara

(17,658 posts)
13. my grand daughter had a virtual HS graduation in 2019.. she was the ONLY one to mask up..
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 08:25 AM
Aug 2021

...im proud of her. Its not easy to make a statement....

SkylineChili

(30 posts)
16. Find a different car pool
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 08:31 AM
Aug 2021

Don't carpool with these people. Seriously, we do have choices most of the time about the people we allow into our world. Sometimes we have no choice, as in work, but when it comes to friends, carpools, after school activities and social life--even optional events with family, we absolutely have a choice. They can pick up their own children and you can pick up your grandchildren. I am done accommodating, making excuses and defending people on the basis of "they were misled by TFG" or "They believed social media," or having sympathy for people who vacillate in these situations, as in, "it would be inconvenient/difficult/sad to cut this or that person from my life because they don't vaccinate, mask and/or social distance." Cardinal Burke, a "Wuhan Flu", vaccine skeptic, vocal supporter of TFG, and all around jerk, is now on a ventilator, after his minions denied for days he had covid. There will be many more like him in the coming days. My family is fully vaccinated but I avoid the unvaccinated like the plague they are.

viva la

(3,358 posts)
21. Cardinal Burke-- he'd been "fired" by Pope Francis years ago for "being out of step"
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 10:18 AM
Aug 2021

What a prize. A pompous, dictatorial, and arbitrary, and WRONG religious leader== and now he's reaping the whirlwind, as the bible says.

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/cardinal-burke-has-covid-is-on-ventilator/article_28639900-9c76-5481-b7ad-62266e605d0b.html

multigraincracker

(32,746 posts)
17. I'm an old fart and have
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 09:38 AM
Aug 2021

very few friends that I've known more than 20 years, maybe one or two. Friends come and go. There will always be new and better ones.

Best of luck to you.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
25. Well, she's probably not friends with bad trash (what would that
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 10:39 AM
Aug 2021

say about her?). Those people behaving extremely badly are both victims and victimizers from what's happened on the right, and their numbers show how incredibly many "normal" people are vulnerable to aggressively dangerous mass movements.

And unfortunately most won't get sick, or sick enough, to learn from their own illness. Unfortunately, of course, because if most didn't do just fine while only a few suffered enough to regret and learn, this wouldn't be happening.

Sounds like these so-called friends have opened the door to taking responsible action by expressing disapproval of refusing vaccination --- but in ways that would build on general societal condemnation -- such as speaking of personal fears about her children and her personal responsibility toward others. People don't just want but need to think they're good and part of a majority of good people who feel as they do, and these are resisting learning that they are not.

MissMillie

(38,603 posts)
30. Well, I don't want to clean my oven, but it needs to be done.
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 12:21 PM
Aug 2021

With friends like that, who needs enemies?

(I know, it's not very comforting. I'm sorry.)

If people could just exercise some common sense and restraint, we might be able to put an end to the pandemic. But they're been brain-washed into thinking that it'll "just disappear" or it's no big deal.

They feel to realize they have been empowered to make a difference--a positive difference.

halfulglas

(1,654 posts)
37. Odd, isn't it? They want to go on with life as usual but not be "judged." They want to be the judge.
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 04:11 PM
Aug 2021

And they sure are being judgmental. Kids are actually as adaptable as they let them be. Kids learn to play with masks on. When they know they can be with their friends and attend classes as long as they keep them on for their own safety. Her ex-friends turn out to not be friends at all.

Face masks - a little piece of cloth. Because of the fight over this and over vaccines, I am so much less trusting than I was 1-1/2 years ago. I don't trust an acquaintance or stranger who isn't wearing a mask or outside have one hanging from their neck. If they say they're vaxxed, how do I know they're not lying. And with all the fake "proof" around I don't know I would trust one unless it had one with a code on it that could be verified.

But fake friends who reject you because you want masks, that's crazy.

roamer65

(36,748 posts)
40. Sounds like ur daughter needs better friends.
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 08:54 PM
Aug 2021


I would call those criticizing her “aquaintances”.

Nothing more.
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