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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMy daughters friends don't want face masks
So they are choosing not to be her friend.
They all have grade school children and think their kids should return to school without a mask.
They also read some of my political post about Covid and taking it out on my daughter.
These young mothers seem to forget that
many times its the grandparent that picks up their kids after school.
Im just as mad as she is for holding her accountable for having common sense.
hlthe2b
(102,502 posts)my perspective. sigh...
samplegirl
(11,522 posts)picked the kids up from school last year. Her friends no that. Ohio by chart is increasing in Covid.
This whole mask thing is so political that nobody seems to care about the safety of the children I guess until a few dies.
PJMcK
(22,067 posts)They're putting their own children in grave danger.
For what? To "own the libs?"
Idiots. Bad parents.
ETA: They might as well encourage their kids to go play in traffic.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)I would encourage you to refrain from doing so going forward and keep those things away from where they can be seen by your daughters friends. I know of no one whos mind was changed by a social media political post of statement and many a friendship or family relationship has been damaged by them. I use Facebook, but it is mostly read only and my posts rarely have anything to do with politics or social issues.
As to the masks 😷, likely not much to be done beyond keeping yourself and family members as covered and vaccinated as possible. People are going to do what they want until they either contract the disease or a mandate of one kind or another forces their hand.
MLAA
(17,367 posts)Im sure it is difficult and sad to lose friends, I hope she can now make new friends with sensible and responsible adults.
LenaBaby61
(6,979 posts)IF those kids parents keep allowing them to play in Covid-19 traffic, you know what's more than likely to happen. Those kids and possibly their parents won't be around to be anyone's friends.
Can't stop a person or persons with death wishes
But I'm vaccinated, and WILL stay in the house, mask up on the rare times when I go outside, socially distance and KEEP my hands washed. I don't belong to the tRump death cult nor am I one of these right-winged fools with a death wish.
MLAA
(17,367 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)anti-vaxx from turning into a mass movement.
Hopefully that children are joining those few is starting to make those who haven't gotten vaccinated afraid. Vaccination are ticking up, especially among those who didn't "get around to it," and should gather speed.
LenaBaby61
(6,979 posts)and should gather speed."
From your hopeful lips to God's ears 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻
Mr.Bill
(24,358 posts)that they identify themselves. I wish around here they would go back to wearing their red hats.
Vinca
(50,325 posts)brewens
(13,651 posts)are vaccinated. It's a small center with about 10 staff. In Idaho. I was there recently enough to have worked with most of them. I knew it wouldn't be great, but I expected more. The lead, who is my best friend there, said she was the only one. That they weren't supposed to talk about it. I told them I really didn't have any choice. My dominatrix said I had to.
MyOwnPeace
(16,951 posts)....if only THEY had a dominatrix that told them to "get the damned shot!"
TexasBushwhacker
(20,244 posts)but I'm in Houston, which is a hot zone. They don't require vaccines for donors, but they do ask that they mask.
brewens
(13,651 posts)was last Monday. I showed up with a mask on anyway. I let them reschedule me, but with cases blowing up again around here, I may cancel.
viva la
(3,358 posts)How can they do medical work if they profoundly don't believe in medical science?
I mean, blood centers aren't doing surgery, but I assume they have to obey sanitation rules and understand you have to use new needles because of germs (which are INVISIBLE!) and that you can't mix blood types, and....?
no_hypocrisy
(46,287 posts)YOU are not to be criticized. YOUR DAUGHTER is not to be criticized. And YOUR GRANDDAUGHTER is not to be criticized.
You aren't stopping them from being stupid. Yes, I said stupid. When you know better and are determined to make a poor decision, that's stupid.
You've had your say. You have taught your family well to speak up when it's necessary.
Lonestarblue
(10,148 posts)They believe they have the right to do whatever they want but no one else has the right to do whatever they want, such as private businesses requiring vaccination or masks. They attack people wearing masks, sometimes physically, and their actions say that only they have rights. I really think this country is in worse shape than we realize from all the damage the right wing has done over the years.
wnylib
(21,756 posts)only their religious beliefs count in regard to religious freedom.
Totally self-centered tribalists. They are the opposite of freedom and too dumb to realize it.
Chicagogrl1
(422 posts)These people were never really friends, if they stop being friends over face masks during a pandemic. The pandemic has really given people an opportunity to show their true colors. I am sorry for your daughter & grand daughter. It is hard to be around such callousness.
Irish_Dem
(47,773 posts)I remember polio, whooping cough, measles, mumps, etc.
Younger people have no idea what it is like to get sick with these diseases.
samnsara
(17,658 posts)....viruses have only one job..to survive
Irish_Dem
(47,773 posts)science or vaccines.
Humans are de-evolving.
viva la
(3,358 posts)In the 70s, there were a couple cases in US communities that rejected health care or vaccination. But the virus has got to keep replicating, and if it can't find a host, it can kind of disappear even if there are a few unvaxxed. It's apparently just not here anymore in this hemisphere.
We're a long, long way from that with Covid.
For one thing, the polio vaccine seems to be permanent. Covid's likely going to be more like the flu-- we'll needed boosters maybe every year. Not a big deal for most of us, but watch the loudmouth idiots shriek every fall about magnetism and microchips.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,244 posts)and only a few hundred cases per year.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)along that makes the hearts of parents clutch in fear the way polio and measles epidemics did.
Irish_Dem
(47,773 posts)Everyone was really afraid during that time. She tells stories of healthy young man just falling in their tracks, literally dropping dead or incapacitated. And she told stories of working with people in iron lungs. It made an impression on my as I heard these stories from her.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)one year I became aware in a real way of an especially bad polio summer because it was talked about so much and especially because the park we played at and the public pool were closed. Probably like these summers that so many children have spent playing alone at home.
Irish_Dem
(47,773 posts)My great aunt and aunt were nurses, like my mother, and I would hear them talking.
I was a little pitcher with big ears.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Hi Hortensis!
roamer65
(36,748 posts)samnsara
(17,658 posts)...im proud of her. Its not easy to make a statement....
SkylineChili
(30 posts)Don't carpool with these people. Seriously, we do have choices most of the time about the people we allow into our world. Sometimes we have no choice, as in work, but when it comes to friends, carpools, after school activities and social life--even optional events with family, we absolutely have a choice. They can pick up their own children and you can pick up your grandchildren. I am done accommodating, making excuses and defending people on the basis of "they were misled by TFG" or "They believed social media," or having sympathy for people who vacillate in these situations, as in, "it would be inconvenient/difficult/sad to cut this or that person from my life because they don't vaccinate, mask and/or social distance." Cardinal Burke, a "Wuhan Flu", vaccine skeptic, vocal supporter of TFG, and all around jerk, is now on a ventilator, after his minions denied for days he had covid. There will be many more like him in the coming days. My family is fully vaccinated but I avoid the unvaccinated like the plague they are.
viva la
(3,358 posts)What a prize. A pompous, dictatorial, and arbitrary, and WRONG religious leader== and now he's reaping the whirlwind, as the bible says.
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/cardinal-burke-has-covid-is-on-ventilator/article_28639900-9c76-5481-b7ad-62266e605d0b.html
musette_sf
(10,208 posts)I guess his karma ran over his dogma.
multigraincracker
(32,746 posts)very few friends that I've known more than 20 years, maybe one or two. Friends come and go. There will always be new and better ones.
Best of luck to you.
flying_wahini
(6,689 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)say about her?). Those people behaving extremely badly are both victims and victimizers from what's happened on the right, and their numbers show how incredibly many "normal" people are vulnerable to aggressively dangerous mass movements.
And unfortunately most won't get sick, or sick enough, to learn from their own illness. Unfortunately, of course, because if most didn't do just fine while only a few suffered enough to regret and learn, this wouldn't be happening.
Sounds like these so-called friends have opened the door to taking responsible action by expressing disapproval of refusing vaccination --- but in ways that would build on general societal condemnation -- such as speaking of personal fears about her children and her personal responsibility toward others. People don't just want but need to think they're good and part of a majority of good people who feel as they do, and these are resisting learning that they are not.
MissMillie
(38,603 posts)With friends like that, who needs enemies?
(I know, it's not very comforting. I'm sorry.)
If people could just exercise some common sense and restraint, we might be able to put an end to the pandemic. But they're been brain-washed into thinking that it'll "just disappear" or it's no big deal.
They feel to realize they have been empowered to make a difference--a positive difference.
halfulglas
(1,654 posts)And they sure are being judgmental. Kids are actually as adaptable as they let them be. Kids learn to play with masks on. When they know they can be with their friends and attend classes as long as they keep them on for their own safety. Her ex-friends turn out to not be friends at all.
Face masks - a little piece of cloth. Because of the fight over this and over vaccines, I am so much less trusting than I was 1-1/2 years ago. I don't trust an acquaintance or stranger who isn't wearing a mask or outside have one hanging from their neck. If they say they're vaxxed, how do I know they're not lying. And with all the fake "proof" around I don't know I would trust one unless it had one with a code on it that could be verified.
But fake friends who reject you because you want masks, that's crazy.
Texaswitchy
(2,962 posts)Better then a tube.
roamer65
(36,748 posts)I would call those criticizing her aquaintances.
Nothing more.