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Afghan soldiers literally laying down their weapons and walking away... (Original Post) AngryOldDem Aug 2021 OP
The $2 Trillion was one big scam and boondoggle. Irish_Dem Aug 2021 #1
It's enraging. AngryOldDem Aug 2021 #2
these people are defending their country from foreign invaders rampartc Aug 2021 #12
If the people of that country don't care, why should we? nt mitch96 Aug 2021 #3
This is why we needed to get out. JoanofArgh Aug 2021 #4
They and their families will be tortured, raped and slaughtered if they resist. I cant blame them. Shanti Shanti Shanti Aug 2021 #5
South Viet Nam, all over again. Paladin Aug 2021 #6
We never learn from history. AngryOldDem Aug 2021 #8
Not willing to fight unless we were doing most of it for them. Wingus Dingus Aug 2021 #7
You KNOW someone in our Intelligence agencies knew this is what would happen. Baitball Blogger Aug 2021 #9
Is anyone surprised by this? Voltaire2 Aug 2021 #10
Nobody should be. (nt) Paladin Aug 2021 #18
History doesn't repeat, but it does rhyme... Wounded Bear Aug 2021 #11
They know the Afghan military can't protect them and their familes without U.S. support ripcord Aug 2021 #13
Pashtunwali Klaralven Aug 2021 #14
Let Russia or China save them Thrill Aug 2021 #15
No kidding Lemon Lyman Aug 2021 #16
It may turn out Turbineguy Aug 2021 #17
they've been doing it for 20 years KG Aug 2021 #19
No leadership. marble falls Aug 2021 #20
Putting down your weapons and walking away is what a rational person does when they are defeated. Chainfire Aug 2021 #21

Irish_Dem

(47,421 posts)
1. The $2 Trillion was one big scam and boondoggle.
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 08:48 AM
Aug 2021

Military industrial complex, mercenaries, Afghans, all got very rich off the American taxpayer.

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
2. It's enraging.
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 09:04 AM
Aug 2021

Supposedly they had “superior airpower,” training, etc.

Biden should not be blamed for this. We bought into the fallacy — as we did in Vietnam — that people would defend their country if only given the means to do so. That ideal died after WWII.

This has been a disaster in slow motion for 20 years.

Wingus Dingus

(8,059 posts)
7. Not willing to fight unless we were doing most of it for them.
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 09:36 AM
Aug 2021

How long did they last--weeks? Days? It's a shame we weren't out of there 18-19 years ago.

Baitball Blogger

(46,758 posts)
9. You KNOW someone in our Intelligence agencies knew this is what would happen.
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 09:43 AM
Aug 2021

But we're going to be put through the, "No one foresaw this" scenario until someone writes a book saying otherwise.

I'm guessing that Biden is banking on us leaving without any US casualties. That the new mission.

ripcord

(5,537 posts)
13. They know the Afghan military can't protect them and their familes without U.S. support
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 10:12 AM
Aug 2021

There will be reprisals for people who fought the Taliban and their families will be the first targets, I'm afraid the death toll is going to be frightening.

 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
14. Pashtunwali
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 10:32 AM
Aug 2021
Nənawā́te ( ننواتې ): Asylum – Derived from the verb meaning to go in, this refers to the protection given to a person against his enemies. People are protected at all costs; even those running from the law must be given refuge until the situation can be clarified.[2] Nənawā́te can also be used when the vanquished party in a dispute is prepared to go into the house of the victors and ask for their forgiveness: this is a peculiar form of "chivalrous" surrender, in which an enemy seeks "sanctuary" at the house of their foe. A notable example is that of Navy Petty Officer First Class Marcus Luttrell, the sole survivor of a US Navy SEAL team ambushed by Taliban fighters. Wounded, he evaded the enemy and was aided by members of the Sabray tribe who took him to their village. The tribal chief protected him, fending off attacking tribes until word was sent to nearby US forces.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pashtunwali

Chainfire

(17,643 posts)
21. Putting down your weapons and walking away is what a rational person does when they are defeated.
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 12:58 PM
Aug 2021

No one wants to be the last person to die for a lost cause.

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