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TNNurse

(6,926 posts)
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 06:18 PM Aug 2021

I just saw a headline about the Taliban.

It was how quickly they are taking over. I compare it to someone who is taken off life support and dies almost immediately.

Those machines were the only thing keeping them alive and we were the only thing with any control in Afghanistan.

Both things were not sustainable. Nothing was going to get any better. There was no chance of survival.

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I just saw a headline about the Taliban. (Original Post) TNNurse Aug 2021 OP
It was now or later. Although now should have been several years ago. Sneederbunk Aug 2021 #1
Or never there in the first place. Ocelot II Aug 2021 #2
Exactly. nt littlemissmartypants Aug 2021 #6
Less like life support than essential (but expensive) medication. FBaggins Aug 2021 #3
Keeping those troops there was costing us obscene amounts of money, though. bearsfootball516 Aug 2021 #8
And how much will it cost to contain the hot bed of terrorism now? Jon King Aug 2021 #10
Debatable. maxsolomon Aug 2021 #16
Oh, but I'm sure evolves Aug 2021 #14
Good comparison. We now know that we were propping up the country artificially. Irish_Dem Aug 2021 #4
That's A Good Way To Phrase It, Ma'am The Magistrate Aug 2021 #5
Excellent analogy pandr32 Aug 2021 #7
Yes and it made our weapons suppliers a fortune! burrowowl Aug 2021 #9
My guess is that most of the Afghanistan military are secretly Taliban supporters. George II Aug 2021 #11
We were there long enough Red Mountain Aug 2021 #13
And Biden is taking the heat for it. George II Aug 2021 #15
K & R for a great analogy Tommymac Aug 2021 #12
Yeah, pretty much, however Afghanistan is not going to die, it's joust Warpy Aug 2021 #17
Good analogy Martin Eden Aug 2021 #18

FBaggins

(26,731 posts)
3. Less like life support than essential (but expensive) medication.
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 06:35 PM
Aug 2021

People on life support generally don't have much quality of life. Millions of people in Afghanistan had a much better life than what they're headed to now.

We were reportedly down to just a couple thousand troops in-country supporting the Afghan government and US embassy personnel.

In retrospect... we could have maintained that level for many years if it meant protecting the masses from what is about to happen to them.

We still have close to 30,000 troops in South Korea almost seven decades later.

bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
8. Keeping those troops there was costing us obscene amounts of money, though.
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 07:08 PM
Aug 2021

We spent 20 years there. We trained their army. We did everything possible. Keeping troops there costs billions that are better spent here, and it puts American lives at risk every single day.

In the end…it’s not our job to keep a presence there and maintain order. That’s their job. We gave them all the tools to do it. We trained an army more than capable of defeating the Taliban and running the country. At the end of the day, it’s their job, not ours. And they chose not to.

The atrocities that the Taliban will commit will be awful. But at the end of the day…it’s not our responsibility. It’s Afghanistan’s.

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
10. And how much will it cost to contain the hot bed of terrorism now?
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 07:51 PM
Aug 2021

We will spend the same amount or more trying to contain what is going to happen as it again devolves into a safe haven for terrorist training.

Irish_Dem

(47,014 posts)
4. Good comparison. We now know that we were propping up the country artificially.
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 06:36 PM
Aug 2021

The Afghan government and military were not functional in the least.
And the Taliban was well funded, well organized and well armed than we were led to believe.

Red Mountain

(1,732 posts)
13. We were there long enough
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 08:02 PM
Aug 2021

for everybody with any responsibility to make and hatch their personal plans.

They put away plenty of money.

We got played.

Warpy

(111,255 posts)
17. Yeah, pretty much, however Afghanistan is not going to die, it's joust
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 08:55 PM
Aug 2021

going to go back to being Afghanistan and there is not a damned thing we can do about it.

I have a faint hope the Taliban will surprise us, that they have moderated their harshness toward women. So far, the only thing I've seen is a call for all women to wear the hijab, something most women already did. It will undoubtedly get worse than that, but it's a good start.

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