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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGeorge Takei says 'willfully unvaccinated' should stop receiving priority medical care
Legendary actor and civil rights activist George Takei is tired of the unvaccinated taking up hospital space as the coronavirus pandemic spreads among the unvaccinated. Takei's statements came as hospitals are canceling so-called "elective" procedures as the unvaccinated clog up healthcare systems.
"The willfully unvaccinated who wind up in hospitals from Covid should not receive priority medical care over other very sick or injured people who are as much in urgent need of medical care," Takei posted to his 3.2 million followers on Twitter.
"Anti-vaxxers think they are owning us liberals by refusing to get vaccinated. But as the kids say, this is an epic self-own," he explained.
"We are in an age of dummies," he added.
(There was no link to the Tweet)
https://www.rawstory.com/unvaccinated-2654669563/
SheltieLover
(76,310 posts)So glad a well known person is calling for sanity!
dalton99a
(91,899 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(26,206 posts)dalton99a
(91,899 posts)
FakeNoose
(40,060 posts)
roamer65
(37,813 posts)Just like 1918.
Mr.Bill
(24,906 posts)but that attitude is an insult to medical professionals everywhere. They are dedicated to care fore everyone who needs it to the best of their ability. We don't need the medical community to be judgemental. It would be a huge mistake. I'm sure those of you who have medical professionals in your family know what I mean. I am married to a retired RN and have several other medical professionals in my family.
Demobrat
(10,259 posts)Just that they shouldnt take precedence over others who need it just as much.
Should a willfully unvaccinated Covid patient receive care while a stroke or accident victim is turned away? Right now, with the hospitals full up with unvaccinated Covid patients, thats how it is.
Should a mass shooting victim have to die because some anti-vaxxers bad decisions caught up with them? Eventually someone is going to have to decide.
At this point the answer is yes.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)OnDoutside
(20,860 posts)pedestrian knocked down in a hit and run, which one should get the ventilator if both of them need it to survive? I don't see an issue with putting the hit and run victim ahead of the anti-vaxxer.
Mr.Bill
(24,906 posts)would be the one with the best chance of survival.
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Pepsidog
(6,353 posts)RicROC
(1,249 posts)And as such, the President should declare it a national emergency and do whatever to mitigate the impact of covid on the US population.
Demand that anyone serving the public be vax'd?
All food service workers( Burger King, Chick Filet, et al.)- vax'd.
All health care workers must be vax'd- and if not vax'd unable to work in a health care facility.
All military- vax'd.
All transportation employees-vax'd. Even the clerks issuing tickets.
Any visitors entering hospitals, nursing homes, Urgent care, out-patient clinics, dental offices, Optometrists offices, chiropractors, physical therapy offices- vax'd
to travel on an airline, railroad, or bus, you have to be vaccinated?
Canada did this with airlines.
SergeStorms
(19,919 posts)We're living it. Every. Stinking. Day.
IronLionZion
(50,773 posts)someone is paying for their treatment. There are plenty of folks with serious health issues that are ticking time bombs if left untreated for too long. That was a problem throughout this pandemic when people delayed going to the hospital because of COVID.
TeamProg
(6,630 posts)With no ventilator, just a Freedom Card from Abbot & Desantis
LetMyPeopleVote
(174,549 posts)monkeyman1
(5,109 posts)Rhiannon12866
(249,593 posts)Saffron Walden
(18 posts)My daughter-in-law and son are not vaccinated because we live in a place where we are pretty much isolated from other people. They are trying to get pregnant and her doctor told her there hasn't been studies on pregnant women and the vaccine. They have made the well thought out decision to not get vaccinated.
I'm not vaccinated and will not be. I have a number of crippling auto-immune conditions and my body reacts badly to many medications and topical ointments. I can't even use regular soap or the ultra soft toilet paper without breaking out in a horrible skin condition. I also get a frightening inflammatory response to some meds or injury. I was talked into the flu vaccine about 7 years ago (when I wasn't so ill) by a GP and it took me years to recover from - in fact I'm not sure I really did.
I haven't had a cold let alone flu since the mid-90's.
My husband is vaccinated and did so because he was told at the time he would protect me by being vaccinated, which turned out not to be true.
My auto-immune doctor has not mentioned the vaccine to me and won't.
All's good though - reading through the comments here I see I get a janitor to keep an eye on me as I die in tent in a hospital parking lot.
The earth's too overcrowded anyway.
Rhiannon12866
(249,593 posts)It's devastating for them to get Covid and even infants have now been infected, not just small children. There was a story on MSNBC the other day about a woman who died of Covid shortly after giving birth, a double tragedy. Getting Covid is much more devastating then temporary side effects from any vaccine and those I knew who got the Pfizer had only a slightly sore arm. I got the Moderna and had bad chills that night and the next day, but that was certainly worth not getting a devastating illness.
Saffron Walden
(18 posts)The doctor was honest and told my daughter-in-law they don't know. My husband was told he would be protecting me if he got the vaccine but it turns out that wasn't true.
My son and his wife live in a very rural part of the US. No nearby neighbors. They don't of course use public transportation and do not work with anyone. Sometimes you have to make your own judgments. Some people's situations are different than yours.
About the infants getting covid - is it killing them or are they just testing positive? I vaguely remember Tony Fauci about 30 years ago telling the public that AIDS was taking off in the heterosexual community as it was in the homosexual community in a successful effort to get more funding and fame.
I wouldn't get a slightly sore arm, or even bad chills from the vaccine. It would probably kill me.
Rhiannon12866
(249,593 posts)This came after a woman died of Covid not long after giving birth because she thought she could put off vaccination until after she had her baby.
And, yes, young children and infants are now in hospitals and on ventilators after contracting the virus. That's why everyone needs to be vaccinated, to protect young children who aren't yet approved to receive the vaccine.
Saffron Walden
(18 posts)I daren't search anymore! It's just too awful.
I think my daughter-in-law's OB was being very honest when she said, "We just don't know".
Rhiannon12866
(249,593 posts)I listen to the Surgeon General and Dr. Fauci and the news story I related was on mainstream news. The only adverse reactions I've heard from getting vaccinated were temporary.
xmas74
(30,022 posts)And OBs are encouraging moms to get vaccinated while pregnant, especially since moms have been shown to pass on immunity in utero.
Saffron Walden
(18 posts)mother's were double vaccinated.
SKKY
(12,743 posts)...and her reply was, "Someone's heart attack, or stroke, or broken neck isn't potentially going to sicken a lot of other people." So, while agree with Takei 99% of the time, this is the 1% I don't.
Demobrat
(10,259 posts)over the rest of us. If they get sick due to their own bad decisions they get help, and somebody else has to die.
And thats just how it is.
SKKY
(12,743 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Isolate them, put them in a tent on hospital grounds, give them a respirator if needed, check on them if health care workers aren't stretched too thin, but other than that, precedence should be given to patients who are in the hospital through no fault of their own.
I don't see any need to go out of the way for anti-vax covid patients since they are just going to go back out there and do it again and continue to spread the anti-vax message. The bare minimum should be done for them.
cinematicdiversions
(1,969 posts)Because that is the same argument for not covering the obese under universal health insurance.
Demobrat
(10,259 posts)Its often seen seen as a choice, which is why fat shaming is acceptable to many, but intelligent people know its much more complicated than that.
A free, readily available shot, OTOH, is pretty simple.
dickthegrouch
(4,273 posts)Roisin Ni Fiachra
(2,574 posts)not receive priority medical care over other very sick or injured people who are as much in urgent need of medical care.
The jerks who killed granma, and continually spread disease because of their kool aid induced stupid, deserve least consideration for urgent medical care.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Zeitghost
(4,557 posts)Whose poor personal decisions lead to poor health outcomes and therefore extra medical care is a dangerous precedent to start.
It might sound like a great way to "own the Magats", but it's a slippery slope indeed.
stollen
(1,040 posts)That will change a few minds.
demtenjeep
(31,997 posts)play stupid games.............................
