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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 09:24 PM Aug 2021

Why did the Soviet puppet government in Afghanistan last two and one half years ...?

Why did the Soviet puppet government in Afghanistan last two and one-half years after their troops left?


Something went horribly wrong with the Afghan armed forces.

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Why did the Soviet puppet government in Afghanistan last two and one half years ...? (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2021 OP
I don't know, but if I would speculate Dan Aug 2021 #1
We armed the Mujahideen in the hopes of getting the USSR bogged down there. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2021 #2
Weren't those shoulder fire Surface to Air Rockets they used multigraincracker Aug 2021 #11
Well, there's a reason why Putin ymetca Aug 2021 #3
No, The US has many faults but 9/11 and bin laden had nothing JI7 Aug 2021 #4
As far as empires the Soviet empire was much much much worse DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2021 #8
So much history DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2021 #5
ymetca: I think you're basically right SCantiGOP Aug 2021 #7
Right ymetca Aug 2021 #9
But we're not at war with Eastasia SCantiGOP Aug 2021 #12
Fnord! ymetca Aug 2021 #13
Good night to you, Sir or Madam SCantiGOP Aug 2021 #14
The USSR was propping Najibullah up with money and weapons. roamer65 Aug 2021 #6
Kick n rec! Drum Aug 2021 #10
It had a core of support. David__77 Aug 2021 #15

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
2. We armed the Mujahideen in the hopes of getting the USSR bogged down there.
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 09:32 PM
Aug 2021

I'm just surprised their puppet government lasted two and one half years without Soviet troops.

ymetca

(1,182 posts)
3. Well, there's a reason why Putin
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 09:34 PM
Aug 2021

called America nothing more than an organized crime syndicate under the guise of a "democracy".

Hence the whole Twin Towers debacle --cutting off the "horns" of the Great Satan/Money Beast-- that started all this.

"Americans love nothing more than money" was kind of the point. Bin Laden said exactly that.

So yeah, maybe they believed in the Soviet propaganda slightly longer, until that collapsed as well.

Subtle difference, but interesting nonetheless.

JI7

(89,249 posts)
4. No, The US has many faults but 9/11 and bin laden had nothing
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 09:38 PM
Aug 2021

to do with some wrong committed by the US. That was all religious extremism which terrorizes females in their country.

And Soviets were doing horrible things also.

But looking back and knowing everything we know now we could have just waited a bit longer for the USSR to collapse and avoided those proxy wars .

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
8. As far as empires the Soviet empire was much much much worse
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 09:46 PM
Aug 2021

But we have meddled in other nations business for less than altruistic reasons as have all empires. I always say all things are relative as far as empires go, we aren't the worst. Just ask Filipinos have been conquered by the Spanish, Japanese, and US Your average Filipino loves America.

SCantiGOP

(13,869 posts)
7. ymetca: I think you're basically right
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 09:45 PM
Aug 2021

but that would be balanced by the fact the Soviet were atheists, which is far worse to the Taliban than Christianity.
I think One difference was that the post-Soviet government fought back, while the current group saw the Taliban takeover as inevitable and took off or gave up as quickly as possible.

ymetca

(1,182 posts)
9. Right
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 09:55 PM
Aug 2021

And I think what you said dovetails nicely with Putin's new "piety", which plays so well to the Republican/Evangelical base.

The latest tactic in our never-ending "war with Eastasia", as it were.

For profit ever requires the most fervent of believers. It matters not, ultimately, what they believe in.

ymetca

(1,182 posts)
13. Fnord!
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 11:04 PM
Aug 2021

This is the part where the chorus comes in (picture cartoonish thugs in a pub hoisting pints):

"Ooooooh, in every system sufficiently complex chaos reigns supreme! | chaos reigns supreme! | chaos reigns supreme!"

[draft scene cut from Pirates of the Caribbean, the Broadway Musical]

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
6. The USSR was propping Najibullah up with money and weapons.
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 09:42 PM
Aug 2021

Also, the mujahadeen was fractured at that point.

David__77

(23,389 posts)
15. It had a core of support.
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 11:17 PM
Aug 2021

There were many thousands who were deeply committed to the ruling party’s project regardless of Soviet presence/absence. The government aimed to mobilize people politically against the Islamist insurgents.

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