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JI7

(89,248 posts)
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 09:20 AM Aug 2021

China says it's ready for 'friendly relations' with Taliban

China already has invested in some projects. It will be interesting to see what China does . We know they don't care about human rights issues but maybe they might be able to prevent the country from being a training ground for other islamic terrorists .


China is ready to deepen "friendly and cooperative" relations with Afghanistan, a government spokeswoman said Monday, after the Taliban seized control of the country.

China shares a rugged 76-kilometre (47-mile) border with Afghanistan.

Beijing has long feared Afghanistan could become a staging point for minority Uyghur separatists in the sensitive border region of Xinjiang.

But a top-level Taliban delegation met with Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi in Tianjin last month, promising that Afghanistan would not be used as a base for militants.

In exchange, China offered economic support and investment for Afghanistan's reconstruction.

"The Taliban have repeatedly expressed their hope to develop good relations with China, and that they look forward to China's participation in the reconstruction and development of Afghanistan," foreign ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying told reporters.



https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20210816-china-says-ready-for-friendly-relations-with-taliban-after-rout

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China says it's ready for 'friendly relations' with Taliban (Original Post) JI7 Aug 2021 OP
Here we go. US used a stick, China is going to try a carrot. Irish_Dem Aug 2021 #1
I think China sees cheap labor in the future.. It will be interesting how the T'ban sees Chinas mitch96 Aug 2021 #24
China and the Taliban will agree to stay out of each other's internal affairs. Irish_Dem Aug 2021 #25
China and Satan are a good match. pwb Aug 2021 #2
Let the lie fest begin. The Taliban are riding a high right now. littlemissmartypants Aug 2021 #3
I think this is actually a good thing. honest.abe Aug 2021 #4
Yes, I think a lot of people are thinking or kind of hoping for this but wont really say it JI7 Aug 2021 #6
Isn't there some kind of... 2naSalit Aug 2021 #5
You mean the Belt and Road initiatives ? JI7 Aug 2021 #7
Yes. 2naSalit Aug 2021 #12
Pakistan is one of the places they have these investments so they will probably JI7 Aug 2021 #15
That little stretch of Afghainstan, though... 2naSalit Aug 2021 #18
Umm, doesn't the Chinese government hate Muslims? LaMouffette Aug 2021 #8
It's about the economy for China . They have invested a lot in Pakistan including helping them get JI7 Aug 2021 #11
+1 2naSalit Aug 2021 #13
You're right. China's after total global economic hegemony with their Belt and Road Initiative. LaMouffette Aug 2021 #14
Watch the Taliban put aside all of their pseudo-religious piety to work with the godless communists. roamer65 Aug 2021 #9
The Taliban are like a junkyard dog. LastDemocratInSC Aug 2021 #10
the chinese government has just found people who have less honor than they do lindysalsagal Aug 2021 #16
Taliban could let China have our Bagram air base, its move-in ready for a massive military presence Shanti Shanti Shanti Aug 2021 #17
The home of future Chinese military advisors. Devil Child Aug 2021 #21
It's still too early at the dance party to tell Vogon_Glory Aug 2021 #19
"You do your caliphate thing and we'll take care of the minerals" dalton99a Aug 2021 #20
A perfect match with a nod of approval from Pakistan & Russia Devil Child Aug 2021 #22
The Chinese have always been pragmatic mainer Aug 2021 #23
Chinese men are also always looking for brides. Many women from Africa JI7 Aug 2021 #26
I think I'd rather be in China than with the Taliban mainer Aug 2021 #27
China didn't negotiate with anyone to release 5,000 Taliban prisoners malaise Aug 2021 #28
China didn't negotiate with anyone to release 5,000 Taliban prisoners malaise Aug 2021 #29

mitch96

(13,895 posts)
24. I think China sees cheap labor in the future.. It will be interesting how the T'ban sees Chinas
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 02:18 PM
Aug 2021

view on Islam.. That could be a problem for them seeing what went on with the Uyghurs.
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Irish_Dem

(47,014 posts)
25. China and the Taliban will agree to stay out of each other's internal affairs.
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 02:31 PM
Aug 2021

So there should be no problem there.

China wants Afghan rare earth minerals, a secure country for their Belt and Road initiative, and a regional power presence.
In return China will invest and build Afghanistan infrastructure. And give the Taliban respect, legitimacy and status. It will be a transactional relationship. China will expect and receive a return on their investment.

China cannot become a superpower unless it can become a regional power first. China has a lot at stake.

I seriously doubt China will follow the American strategy of waging prolonged aggressive combat, trying to force a political system upon a reluctant country. All at significant cost.

littlemissmartypants

(22,635 posts)
3. Let the lie fest begin. The Taliban are riding a high right now.
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 09:32 AM
Aug 2021

China is going to smash them like the bugs they are. There's so much lying going on right now not one word has any meaning.

honest.abe

(8,678 posts)
4. I think this is actually a good thing.
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 09:35 AM
Aug 2021

China might be only super power capable of working with the Taliban effectively. For sure this will have nothing to do with improving human rights. It will be all about developing the vast mineral resources and making money but at this point it helps.

JI7

(89,248 posts)
6. Yes, I think a lot of people are thinking or kind of hoping for this but wont really say it
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 09:40 AM
Aug 2021

out loud or directly because they don't want to come off like supporting China and it's own record of human rights abuses.

2naSalit

(86,577 posts)
5. Isn't there some kind of...
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 09:36 AM
Aug 2021

Trade route set to go through there and/or a pipeline that China has been working on for a while now?

2naSalit

(86,577 posts)
12. Yes.
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 09:59 AM
Aug 2021

I was looking at the terrain between China and Afghanistan and there is this little corridor in the northeast which is basically a mountain pass that goes into China directly. Looks like a good place for a pipeline and a big road. That could bypass Pakistan and go to a water route from there. There are probably resource based issues we aren't hearing much, if anything, about.

JI7

(89,248 posts)
15. Pakistan is one of the places they have these investments so they will probably
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 10:04 AM
Aug 2021

connect through it in some way if possible.



2naSalit

(86,577 posts)
18. That little stretch of Afghainstan, though...
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 10:11 AM
Aug 2021

Is the geographic/topographic path of least resistance to the Persian Gulf and Gulf of Oman depending on where they come out, involves both countries. The most logical route as it by-passes mountains along most of the route and would make sense for pipeline or some infrastructure feature.

LaMouffette

(2,030 posts)
8. Umm, doesn't the Chinese government hate Muslims?
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 09:46 AM
Aug 2021
The prevalence of torture and the lengths to which the Chinese government has gone to cover up its treatment of Muslim minorities are described in comprehensive detail in an Amnesty International report on detention camps in Western China.

Every former camp detainee Amnesty interviewed in the report recounted cruel and degrading treatment, including torture. The report, released Thursday, is based on interviews with 108 people, including 55 camp survivors and several government cadres who worked in the camps.

As part of an attempt to hide camp conditions from the world, Chinese officials created a massive, nearly week-long bonfire, burning as many documents as could be found from an office overseeing the camps, according to an ex-cadre who spoke to Amnesty and whose identity has been concealed for his safety.




[link:https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/new-details-torture-cover-ups-china-s-internment-camps-revealed-n1270014|

Maybe China is willing to overlook their radical Islamic inclinations in order to gain more power over a country they share a border with. Plus, now they'll have a handy supply of terrorists at their disposal.

JI7

(89,248 posts)
11. It's about the economy for China . They have invested a lot in Pakistan including helping them get
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 09:49 AM
Aug 2021

nukes . It's also meant as a strategy to hold off India.

If it was just about cultural closeness then then India and China would be allies even with the political differences.

They invest in places because of how they could benefit economically , not because they like/don't like the people .

LaMouffette

(2,030 posts)
14. You're right. China's after total global economic hegemony with their Belt and Road Initiative.
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 10:03 AM
Aug 2021

Almost forgot.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
9. Watch the Taliban put aside all of their pseudo-religious piety to work with the godless communists.
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 09:47 AM
Aug 2021


All about the money.

LastDemocratInSC

(3,647 posts)
10. The Taliban are like a junkyard dog.
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 09:48 AM
Aug 2021

Give him food and he'll wag his tail but be careful when you turn around. He likes certain things you might do but he will take a bite out of you if you cross him.

 

Shanti Shanti Shanti

(12,047 posts)
17. Taliban could let China have our Bagram air base, its move-in ready for a massive military presence
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 10:08 AM
Aug 2021

What a deal



 

Devil Child

(2,728 posts)
21. The home of future Chinese military advisors.
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 10:59 AM
Aug 2021

Built, furnished, and cared for by US taxpayers for the benefit of a growing Chinese global presence.

Vogon_Glory

(9,117 posts)
19. It's still too early at the dance party to tell
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 10:54 AM
Aug 2021

We don’t know how much al Qaeda is going to influence the Taliban’s foreign policy, and whether the Taliban will once again host al Aaeda training camps.

If the Taliban does resume hosting al Qaeda training camps and al Qaeda starts hitting Chinese targets, I expect that the Chinese/Taliban honeymoon will come to a screeching halt.

mainer

(12,022 posts)
23. The Chinese have always been pragmatic
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 11:28 AM
Aug 2021

I hope China proves to be an escape route for women fleeing the Taliban.

JI7

(89,248 posts)
26. Chinese men are also always looking for brides. Many women from Africa
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 05:29 PM
Aug 2021

where they invest and have projects have married them. There is a bad side also with some guys just wanting the women for sex but they promise or make them think it's a committed relationship with plans to marry. And there are now some half Chinese babies with young single women left to care for them without any support.

mainer

(12,022 posts)
27. I think I'd rather be in China than with the Taliban
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 05:47 PM
Aug 2021

The choice is between bad or worse. At least in China you won’t be shut away in your house unable to work and feed yourself.

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