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Coventina

(27,118 posts)
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 12:50 PM Aug 2021

I personally know 4 people with breakthrough COVID cases

I've been posting about my friend and his husband who are currently both seriously ill.

I learned yesterday that my husband's boss and his wife are also both seriously ill with COVID.

I start teaching next week with 5 different classes each with 24 students. (We reduced our class sizes from 32).

That's 120 additional exposures per day.

But for some reason we can't require vaccines.

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I personally know 4 people with breakthrough COVID cases (Original Post) Coventina Aug 2021 OP
What do you mean by seriously ill? boston bean Aug 2021 #1
My friend's doctor told him if he gets any worse to go to the hospital. Coventina Aug 2021 #5
Have they tried to sign up for monoclonal antibodies? LisaL Aug 2021 #6
I don't know. My friend's husband works for a doctor. Coventina Aug 2021 #9
Pre vaccine/when I had it. That was my experience. But I made myself get out of bed at least to boston bean Aug 2021 #11
Small consolation, but many of the breakthrough cases are very mild symptoms FakeNoose Aug 2021 #2
I had the third Moderna vaccine yesterday... agingdem Aug 2021 #15
And when do we allow (and require) vaccines for public school children? lagomorph777 Aug 2021 #3
Make sure to wear an N95 mask. LisaL Aug 2021 #4
Ducey has forbidden mask mandates, but our district is requiring masks anyway. Coventina Aug 2021 #7
I now know of a few people who were deniers, randr Aug 2021 #8
My neighbor had one. Initech Aug 2021 #10
Did they tell you what they were vaccinated with? Baitball Blogger Aug 2021 #12
No. n/t Coventina Aug 2021 #13
You didn't ask? Treefrog Aug 2021 #22
I didn't think to. I'll ask next time I speak to my friend. Coventina Aug 2021 #23
Pfizer. n/t Coventina Aug 2021 #27
Yes, my question as well. LisaM Aug 2021 #14
There should be some kind of endangerment wnylib Aug 2021 #16
this! x1000 Evolve Dammit Aug 2021 #17
Here is my limited information for your questions: Coventina Aug 2021 #18
Have the same experience yesterday Maggiemayhem Aug 2021 #19
We have had 7 people at work get COVID in the last four weeks madville Aug 2021 #20
My GF and I got it two weeks ago obamanut2012 Aug 2021 #21
I would bet more than just them have had but had no symptoms so no reason to get tested madville Aug 2021 #25
I know at least that many. Ms. Toad Aug 2021 #24
How is your new mask working for you? LisaL Aug 2021 #29
This is scary samplegirl Aug 2021 #26
I'm getting tested tomorrow FreeState Aug 2021 #28

Coventina

(27,118 posts)
5. My friend's doctor told him if he gets any worse to go to the hospital.
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 01:05 PM
Aug 2021

His husband is only slightly less worse off.

The boss and his wife report that they can barely make it to the bathroom and back, otherwise they are in bed.

To me, that's serious.

Coventina

(27,118 posts)
9. I don't know. My friend's husband works for a doctor.
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 01:09 PM
Aug 2021

So I'm assuming (maybe erroneously) that they are getting the best advice possible.

The boss and his wife don't concern me as much, just because I know both of them are very particular about their health and will probably pursue any available treatment.

boston bean

(36,221 posts)
11. Pre vaccine/when I had it. That was my experience. But I made myself get out of bed at least to
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 01:10 PM
Aug 2021

Recline for hours at a time. I thought laying in bed could possibly make me get pneumonia. Also I drank a lot. But I also spent a lot of time in the bathroom. Uggg. I do not want it ever again.

FakeNoose

(32,639 posts)
2. Small consolation, but many of the breakthrough cases are very mild symptoms
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 01:01 PM
Aug 2021

Good luck to you my friend! Teaching in Covid-times takes real dedication.

agingdem

(7,849 posts)
15. I had the third Moderna vaccine yesterday...
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 01:54 PM
Aug 2021

the nice pharmacist advised me to stay masked..he said most of the break through infections are relatively mild with few symptoms...but what is considered relatively mild in a 40 year old is very different in a 73 year old with compromised immune system..

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
3. And when do we allow (and require) vaccines for public school children?
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 01:03 PM
Aug 2021

As it stands, we are shipping them off to death camps.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
4. Make sure to wear an N95 mask.
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 01:04 PM
Aug 2021

Are masks going to be required for students?
By the way our Governor actually signed an order forbidding coivd vaccine mandates by public schools and universities until it's fully approved by FDA.

Coventina

(27,118 posts)
7. Ducey has forbidden mask mandates, but our district is requiring masks anyway.
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 01:07 PM
Aug 2021

We'll see how that shakes out.....

randr

(12,412 posts)
8. I now know of a few people who were deniers,
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 01:08 PM
Aug 2021

got sick with "the flu", stayed home infecting everyone around them, and then had serious heart/liver/lung issues that put them in the hospital. When told they had CoVid that caused the illness, they still remained in denial along with their infected loved ones.
Medical personnel are getting righteously pissed off. One, my step sons sister is not going to make it.

Initech

(100,070 posts)
10. My neighbor had one.
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 01:09 PM
Aug 2021

Fully vaxxed and then got it but he didn't have anything serious, he was out in like less than 3 days.

Coventina

(27,118 posts)
23. I didn't think to. I'll ask next time I speak to my friend.
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 03:12 PM
Aug 2021

I don't know if I can find out about my husband's boss.
I'll ask him.

LisaM

(27,811 posts)
14. Yes, my question as well.
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 01:20 PM
Aug 2021

Maybe there aren't enough stats, but I would like more breakdown. Which vaccine? Underlying conditions? Vaccination rate.where they live?. Attended large indoor events?

I am vaccinated and being as careful as I ever have been, but I would really like more information on tbe breakthrough cases (someone my partner was working with at a clinic is vaxed and got Covid,, but admitted she went to a karaoke event in her red area of the state).

wnylib

(21,449 posts)
16. There should be some kind of endangerment
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 02:35 PM
Aug 2021

charge that could be brought against people who go out in public knowing that they are sick.

Coventina

(27,118 posts)
18. Here is my limited information for your questions:
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 03:00 PM
Aug 2021

Underlying conditions for my friend is that he is overweight and has had sinus issues all his life. The vaccination rate where we live is slightly less than the national average. He is pretty sure he knows where he caught it: He's a flight attendant and there was a sick little girl on one of his flights.

His husband has no underlying issues that I know of.

As for the boss and his wife: They have no underlying conditions. Same vaccination rate. I don't have access to their social calendar, but I do know that they are very sociable people and (pre-COVID at least) almost are always out doing stuff with friends and having friends over to their house. I know that they had cut down, at least, when everything was shut down. I think they had gone back to normal behavior around May or so, though.

This is all coming from mostly red AZ.

Maggiemayhem

(809 posts)
19. Have the same experience yesterday
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 03:03 PM
Aug 2021

Young healthy fully vaccinated felt sick got test and positive. All I know.

madville

(7,410 posts)
20. We have had 7 people at work get COVID in the last four weeks
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 03:05 PM
Aug 2021

5 of the 7 are vaccinated. All 5 said the symptoms were almost nothing, like a mild cold for a few days. The two unvaccinated folks had a rough time, one was in the hospital multiple times and the other said it was bad flu symptoms for him.

obamanut2012

(26,071 posts)
21. My GF and I got it two weeks ago
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 03:09 PM
Aug 2021

Fully vaxxed with Moderna for a months. We literally just thought it was allergies and a possible sinus infection, but were paranoid and got a test done that Saturday. Positive. Perfectly fine the next day.

We are always masked, but we had some more staff start coming in at work who are not masked or vaxxed, so...

madville

(7,410 posts)
25. I would bet more than just them have had but had no symptoms so no reason to get tested
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 05:37 PM
Aug 2021

Chances are some of us other vaxxed folks have been exposed and infected but we just never knew it. I always have a slightly runny nose with my grass allergies and recently had an ear infection, I could have mild symptoms and not even notice.

We have masks available at work to wear inside but with them just being the cheap surgical masks that don't fight tight with the air just flowing around the mask through the gaps and with Delta being so much contagious through the air I doubt they protect or prevent much working inside close to someone.

If they provided us N95 masks that were fitted well it might provide some degree of protection but that's cost prohibitive, especially if I had to buy my own and wear a new one every shift to make it effective.

Ms. Toad

(34,069 posts)
24. I know at least that many.
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 03:24 PM
Aug 2021

I just got done teaching 35 students for 4 days x 6 hours, and 93 students for 4 days x 6 hours. Two had to leave because of COVID symptoms (one tested negative, the other may - or may not - get tested).

One of my fully vaccinated coworkers had a "cold," but fortunately is a rule-follower. She reported, as directed, and was told to stay home until she got a negative test. She tested positive. She would have been teaching in my class on Friday and Sunday, but for being a rule follower since she truly did not believe it was COVID.

At least masks are now required. Now . . . if I can only get my coworkers to follow the rules (he's told his local volunteers who help to run the programs that masks are required **wink-wink** I have yet to see any of them wearing masks. We are not permitted to require vaccination - or to ask about vaccination status.

FreeState

(10,572 posts)
28. I'm getting tested tomorrow
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 01:48 AM
Aug 2021

Got sick over the weekend. Been vaccinated since early spring. Aches, stomach upset, back pain, gallbladder has sharp pains and I can’t smell anything. Always mask when I’m out.

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