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Atticus

(15,124 posts)
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 05:34 PM Aug 2021

Which speech did you hear?

I had no idea there were apparently two different Presidential addresses being simultaneously broadcast this afternoon---until I heard Jake Tapper and his panel comment on the speech THEY heard.

Theirs did not feature President Biden taking responsibility for the chaotic scenes we're seeing on TV. Mine had Joe admitting that the Taliban takeover had taken place much quicker than he anticipated and said---QUOTE: "I'm the President of the United States. The buck stops here!"

Theirs did not explain how or why this mess occurred. Mine did explain that the Afghanistan leaders and military did zilch to prepare for this possibility despite being urged, by Joe---twice---to do so AND that many of the allies we are now scuffling to rescue resisted our effort to evacuate them months ago.

Theirs was apparently a weak and vague attempt to excuse a failure. Mine was a blockbuster of a speech by a President who specifically said his decision was right for our country and he "absolutely" stood by it.

Finally, I thought one of Joe's best lines was when he asked (paraphrase) "How many more generations of American men and women would you have me send to risk their lives in a civil war the Afghanis would not fight themselves?" I guess "their" speech did not include that question because they did not even attempt to answer it.

Which speech did you hear?

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Which speech did you hear? (Original Post) Atticus Aug 2021 OP
The same one you did, Atticus. Glorfindel Aug 2021 #1
Nicole Wallace said that 95% of Americans would support Biden in his speech and 95% Ninga Aug 2021 #2
From what I've been seeing it's more than 95% of the media. sop Aug 2021 #9
Yep.... Ninga Aug 2021 #10
Agree. The press is desparate for juicy news & they are making the most of this. n/t NH Ethylene Aug 2021 #32
Turned CNN off 2 seconds after Biden finished mcar Aug 2021 #3
I can't stand Tapper Ananda62 Aug 2021 #6
I used to like him but, yes, he's changed mcar Aug 2021 #8
Tapper & the media can FO & take their RW talking points Cha Aug 2021 #13
Tapper can go F himself. TheRealNorth Aug 2021 #4
Tapper should be jeered loudly and repeatedly for... praxEs Aug 2021 #43
I heard a President saying what needs to be said in public, and saying it well. Hoyt Aug 2021 #5
Tapper and his merry band of talking heads need to have their noses rubbed in this.... paleotn Aug 2021 #7
I did not hear the speech but will take your version Polly Hennessey Aug 2021 #11
I heard what you heard. dmr Aug 2021 #12
Agree, I thought it was a great speech. Informative and honest. Paper Roses Aug 2021 #21
Yep, I heard the same speech you did PatSeg Aug 2021 #14
There is also the speech Trump and the GOP are trying to delete.. keithbvadu2 Aug 2021 #15
People are not watching as much and pwb Aug 2021 #16
I stopped watching cable news...there is no channel that is fair to Democrats...and I include Demsrule86 Aug 2021 #38
Our local right- wing radio hosts didn't hear the same speech I heard either Ohioboy Aug 2021 #17
That's because President Joe doesn't scream and holler. Loud is all the slugs understand. nt Progressive Jones Aug 2021 #40
Honestly, I would pay to assist Jake Tapper... The Unmitigated Gall Aug 2021 #18
Jake Tapper was an abomination today Jon King Aug 2021 #19
The same one you heard. applegrove Aug 2021 #20
Excellent! ananda Aug 2021 #22
Protect the Muslims ??? Traildogbob Aug 2021 #23
If I ever mistakenly land on her noon show. I run for cover screaming my head off. praxEs Aug 2021 #44
I am absolutely disgusted with the press. Ligyron Aug 2021 #24
Bravo, Atticus! Native Aug 2021 #25
Actually I heard the third speech bucolic_frolic Aug 2021 #26
Main stream media is harvesting low hanging fruit Cheezoholic Aug 2021 #27
As a kid, I heard Carter's "Malaise" speech. maxsolomon Aug 2021 #28
Contact CNN and tell them which speech he gave. Boomerproud Aug 2021 #29
Well said, Atticus - thank you! Talitha Aug 2021 #30
Tapper probably had a hit piece ready to roll regardless of what Biden said cadoman Aug 2021 #31
The M$M may be eating crow after their attack on the President. BlueIdaho Aug 2021 #33
I heard the same speech you heard, Atticus Dreampuff Aug 2021 #34
K&R. dchill Aug 2021 #35
here's what cnn heard.... spanone Aug 2021 #36
The same one you did....Biden is a great president and a great man. I am proud to have supported Demsrule86 Aug 2021 #37
I heard the same speech you did, Atticus crickets Aug 2021 #39
I heard the same speech that you did. Progressive dog Aug 2021 #41
Since RepubliQons can't trust fake news media IronLionZion Aug 2021 #42

Glorfindel

(9,729 posts)
1. The same one you did, Atticus.
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 05:37 PM
Aug 2021

I listened to it on NPR. I have no idea who Jake Tapper and his panel are.

Ninga

(8,275 posts)
2. Nicole Wallace said that 95% of Americans would support Biden in his speech and 95%
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 05:37 PM
Aug 2021

of the press would not.

mcar

(42,307 posts)
3. Turned CNN off 2 seconds after Biden finished
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 05:38 PM
Aug 2021

As soon as Tapper said "forced to speak to the nation" with his stern media guy face.

Ananda62

(258 posts)
6. I can't stand Tapper
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 05:43 PM
Aug 2021

I usually watch CNN, but turn it off when Jake Tapper appears. He’s become a self righteous, scolding ass.

praxEs

(56 posts)
43. Tapper should be jeered loudly and repeatedly for...
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 05:47 PM
Aug 2021

his failed and embarrassing attempts to imitate a young Dan Rather. He has too little self-awareness to know that half his viewers see him as a grandstanding fool. The other half views him to be looking for other work before long because so many of us mute him or change the channel.

Besides, he is way too old to pull off the Rather impersonation.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
5. I heard a President saying what needs to be said in public, and saying it well.
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 05:43 PM
Aug 2021


What I hope is that we did not hear a lot of kicking ass, and maybe some self-criticism, for whatever caused the optics this week.

In my view, the President never should have said this won’t be Saigon and we’ll stand behind Afghans.

paleotn

(17,912 posts)
7. Tapper and his merry band of talking heads need to have their noses rubbed in this....
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 05:44 PM
Aug 2021

"How many more generations of American men and women would you have me send to risk their lives in a civil war the Afghanis would not fight themselves?"

They have no skin in the game and don't give a shit. Simple as that. They make me want to vomit.

Polly Hennessey

(6,794 posts)
11. I did not hear the speech but will take your version
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 06:12 PM
Aug 2021

(the truth) over Tapper and his gaggle of quackers any day. Your truth sounds like President Biden.

dmr

(28,347 posts)
12. I heard what you heard.
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 06:14 PM
Aug 2021

I did not hear bullshit.

I heard a good president speaking/ explaining truth to America.

I stand with my President.

Paper Roses

(7,473 posts)
21. Agree, I thought it was a great speech. Informative and honest.
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 06:50 PM
Aug 2021

We've had enough. I support the President 100 %.

keithbvadu2

(36,785 posts)
15. There is also the speech Trump and the GOP are trying to delete..
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 06:22 PM
Aug 2021

There is also the speech Trump and the GOP are trying to delete...

pwb

(11,261 posts)
16. People are not watching as much and
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 06:29 PM
Aug 2021

some like me are not watching at all anymore. Cable t v is our Taliban. Streaming, nightly news and D U Is good enough. I am very tired of questions and thoughts disguised as news.

Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
38. I stopped watching cable news...there is no channel that is fair to Democrats...and I include
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 09:22 PM
Aug 2021

all of the cable channels in this statement.

Ohioboy

(3,240 posts)
17. Our local right- wing radio hosts didn't hear the same speech I heard either
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 06:32 PM
Aug 2021

The speech they told about was from a weak stumbling person who was making excuses and reading a speech someone else had written for them on a teleprompter.

I never heard Biden stumble or sound weak at all. I heard a strong leader acting presidential.

The Unmitigated Gall

(3,807 posts)
18. Honestly, I would pay to assist Jake Tapper...
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 06:37 PM
Aug 2021

To pound FIVE FUCKING GALLONS of sand up his ass. I hold his cheeks open, steady the funnel, work the rubber mallet, make sure it ALL got in there. I would demonstrate fortitude and persistence, long after his had failed.

Fuck you, CNN.

Traildogbob

(8,727 posts)
23. Protect the Muslims ???
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 06:52 PM
Aug 2021

Sure is strange now seeing all the right/white wing talking heads demanding we send troops to put their lives on the line to protect Muslim women and children. Can’t remember Andrea Mitchell so heartbroken about our border refugees fleeing death. Not long ago their Messiah demanded Muslims not be allowed in MurKKKa and were burning mosques here. Now they are outraged at how women and children are being raped and murdered. (Nothing like those fleeing to our southern border from religious drug cartel lunatics, their hearts sure bled for them) Wait until they hear we may be bringing those Muslim women and children here, the families of the interpreters. We will see just how much their new found humanitarian concerns are for real.
Red hat heads will explode. Biden’s fought of course.

Ligyron

(7,631 posts)
24. I am absolutely disgusted with the press.
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 06:57 PM
Aug 2021

They’re nothing but a GQP mouthpiece today and it’s so obvious who owns them and what they ate trying to do.

bucolic_frolic

(43,146 posts)
26. Actually I heard the third speech
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 07:20 PM
Aug 2021

The one where expenditures on arms and war materiel are reduced to the point where defense stocks and fat dividends begin to flag causing reduced valuations and cash flows in fat cat portfolios.

Isn't that what's got the MSM all in a lather?

Cheezoholic

(2,018 posts)
27. Main stream media is harvesting low hanging fruit
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 07:35 PM
Aug 2021

They have been spoiled with 4 years of insane corruption at governments highest levels, 4 years of social upheaval driven by the insane rhetoric of the past administration, 4 years of the collapse of a major political party into the darkness of fascism. All driving their ratings consistently higher than they've probably ever been. Hence the first chance they get to fan the faux flames of controversy towards the current administration they pounce in a desperate attempt relive the heyday of the past 4 years. I find it utterly disgusting.
I heard the speech you did. This is the reason the 4 former presidents didn't do this, it was going to be a complete mess no matter what. Somebody had to have the cahonees to do it and take the heat. A large majority of voters, left-right-middle, have been wanting this for a decade. It sucks, its tragic, its ugly but it had to be done, shoulda been done years ago period.

maxsolomon

(33,327 posts)
28. As a kid, I heard Carter's "Malaise" speech.
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 07:43 PM
Aug 2021

It was accurate and strong medicine.

Didn't fucking matter.

cadoman

(792 posts)
31. Tapper probably had a hit piece ready to roll regardless of what Biden said
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 07:55 PM
Aug 2021

Gergen got in on the action too. The fact is the press has always attacked anyone who gives the slightest indication of winding down any Middle East occupation. It's the rare but obvious exception to our nation's otherwise exceptional and trustworthy journalism.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
33. The M$M may be eating crow after their attack on the President.
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 08:16 PM
Aug 2021

President Biden said exactly what 95% of Americans have been thinking for at least the last decade or more. No matter how hard the talking heads try to sell it, we all know this stinky cheese is well past it’s expiration date.

Dreampuff

(778 posts)
34. I heard the same speech you heard, Atticus
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 08:21 PM
Aug 2021

Except you summarized it much more eloquently than I would have. I like how he started his speech with a bit of the history lesson of how we got there and what our objectives were. I like how he admitted they did move in faster than expected, but he stands by his decision in order to save American lives that would have been lost fighting a battle to save Afghanistan while their own trained and armed soldiers had no interest in defending it themselves.

When did CNN become another fox or oan?

Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
37. The same one you did....Biden is a great president and a great man. I am proud to have supported
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 09:19 PM
Aug 2021

him both in the primaries and as president.

crickets

(25,968 posts)
39. I heard the same speech you did, Atticus
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 09:28 PM
Aug 2021

Your recap is well stated and accurate. 'News' media just can't stop themselves from selling out for ratings and a buck.

For anyone who missed it, there's a video of the speech in this DU post:
https://democraticunderground.com/100215746161

IronLionZion

(45,433 posts)
42. Since RepubliQons can't trust fake news media
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 05:13 PM
Aug 2021

and they are spewing fake news about Biden. Then RepubliQons must believe good things about Biden, or at least feel conflicted about their hatred for mainstream news.

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