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The Taliban is ascendant. Ashraf Ghani and his Government have fled Afghanistan.
But as hardline Islamists form a government for the first time in two decades, they also face a looming economic crisis and the risk of a sudden halt to the aid payments which have sustained the country for years.
The opium fields, which have long been a crucial source of cash for the Taliban, could now become a vital replacement for those international funds - sparking a new surge in heroin across the West.
Back in 2001, the invading allies were aware of Afghanistans status as a nascent narco-state.
The biggest drugs hoard in the world is in Afghanistan, controlled by the Taliban. 90pc of the heroin on British streets originates in Afghanistan, Tony Blair told the Labour Party conference just weeks after the terror attacks of 11 September 2001.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/taliban-mulls-flooding-west-heroin-161242984.html
SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)Plenty of customers waiting thanks to big Oxy.
who will put food on the tables of the Sackler family?
roamer65
(36,747 posts)Lots of incendiary bombs.
honest.abe
(8,688 posts)Or spray them with weed killer.
marble falls
(57,424 posts)... the Taliban hangs their addicts and have a very low addiction rate. Want to kill the market for Afghan smack? Kill the American users. Or legalize it.
secondwind
(16,903 posts)He pressured strongly for the release of a hardened criminal in 2018, who is now going to be the next President of Afghanistan.
He pressed for the release of 5,000 dangerous killers who are now also in Afghanistan....
He invited the Taliban to Camp David for a meeting...............
Irish_Dem
(47,697 posts)He doesn't do anything unless there is something in it for himself personally.
marble falls
(57,424 posts)No market - no supply. I get tired of these stories. To get heroin to the US takes a whole lot more than the Afghans.
It takes Turks, Greeks, Italians, and French and millions of Americans buying it for the highest prices in the world.
Eliminating Afghan opium 100% wouldn't break the business, might slow it for a few months, but the market still being there will be supplied by others.
Irish_Dem
(47,697 posts)They could make even more now that the US is out of their country?
RussBLib
(9,052 posts)it is about as close to a miracle as we get. But it can be overdone, like anything.
The Taliban forbade opium cultivation around 2000 and most farmers quit growing it. Osama attacks NYC in 2001, we invade the region, displace the Taliban, and opium is growing again across the country. We try to eradicate it, spend tons of cash and blow up little huts with laser-guided missiles that we thought were opium processing labs. We fail.
Legalize the cultivation globally, which will likely never happen. It's a legitimate source of revenue. And pain relief.
So much of our BS is wrapped up in drugs of some kind.
BumRushDaShow
(129,875 posts)but will do so here regarding the draw to that country (and it's not the "lithium" or "oil" or other stuff). There is a more lucrative commodity that has been a feature there for centuries -
By Reuters |Aug. 16, 2021, at 1:02 a.m.
U.S. News & World Report
FILE PHOTO: An Afghan man works on a poppy field in Nangarhar province, Afghanistan April 20, 2016.
REUTERS/Stringer/File Photo Reuters
By Jonathan Landay
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States spent more than $8 billion over 15 years on efforts to deprive the Taliban of their profits from Afghanistan's opium and heroin trade, from poppy eradication to airstrikes and raids on suspected labs. That strategy failed. As the United States wraps up its longest war, Afghanistan remains the world's biggest illicit opiate supplier and looks certain to remain so as the Taliban is on the brink of taking power in Kabul, said current and former U.S. and U.N. officials and experts.
Widespread destruction during the war, millions uprooted from their homes, foreign aid cuts, and losses of local spending by departed U.S.-led foreign troops are fueling an economic and humanitarian crisis that is likely to leave many destitute Afghans dependent on the narcotics trade for survival. That dependence threatens to bring more instability as the Taliban, other armed groups, ethnic warlords, and corrupt public officials vie for drug profits and power.
Some U.N. and U.S. officials worry Afghanistan's slide into chaos is creating conditions for even higher illicit opiate production, a potential boon to the Taliban. "The Taliban have counted on the Afghan opium trade as one of their main sources of income," Cesar Gudes, the head of the Kabul office of the U.N. Office of Drugs and Crime (UNODC), told Reuters. "More production brings drugs with a cheaper and more attractive price, and therefore a wider accessibility."
With the insurgents entering Kabul on Sunday, "these are the best moments in which these illicit groups tend to position themselves" to expand their business, Gudes said. The Taliban banned poppy growing in 2000 as they sought international legitimacy, but faced a popular backlash and later mostly changed their stance, according to experts. Despite the threats posed by Afghanistan's illicit drug business, experts noted, the United States and other nations rarely mention in public the need to address the trade - estimated by the UNODC at more than 80% of global opium and heroin supplies.
https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2021-08-16/profits-and-poppy-afghanistans-illegal-drug-trade-a-boon-for-taliban
I have posted this before and people were looking at me like I was stupid. It's just like Vietnam (heroin as part of the "Golden Triangle" ) or Nicaragua (cocaine). There's always a "reason" and it's not what they profess it to be.
WarGamer
(12,494 posts)harumph
(1,919 posts)msongs
(67,478 posts)Klaralven
(7,510 posts)The same amount of fentanyl can be cut 20 times more that heroin, due to its much higher potency.
greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)There are a series of speculative statements by some Western academics. The only vaguely (in)direct statement by any Taliban official is hearsay from one of these academics, and actually says the opposite of the headline:
"The last time I had conversations with senior Taliban leaders, several months ago, they hinted their intentions to ban the opium economy. I am not sure that is believable..."
They hinted at...the opposite of what the headline says.
This is irresponsible journalism, or at least an irresponsible headline, or it is pure propaganda, and, quite frankly, the OP should not post trash like this.
Feel free to point me to anywhere in the article where there is any evidence at all to support the headline ("Taliban mulls flooding the West with heroin..." ). Let's not be dupes our whole lives, shall we?