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DanieRains

(4,619 posts)
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 02:19 AM Aug 2021

Why Does America Always Support Corrupt Assholes?

Mubarak, Sadam, Afghani, the list goes on. Think about Saudi Arabia. Made some clown family billionaire kings.

Time we made something great besides oil companies, and defence contractors.

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Why Does America Always Support Corrupt Assholes? (Original Post) DanieRains Aug 2021 OP
Because corrupt assholes run more "stable" governments... Wounded Bear Aug 2021 #1
"He may be a son of a bitch, but he's OUR son of a bitch" JHB Aug 2021 #7
Beat me to it . . . . . no_hypocrisy Aug 2021 #8
This Type Of Thinking modrepub Aug 2021 #9
Could have sworn it was LBJ who said that... Wounded Bear Aug 2021 #13
LBJ would have happily repeated something like that, but... JHB Aug 2021 #14
Most likely said it about Stalin... Wounded Bear Aug 2021 #15
Because the ruling class cares about enriching themselves, not human rights... RockRaven Aug 2021 #2
THIS malaise Aug 2021 #20
Short answer... Dave in VA Aug 2021 #3
Because people who can be bought are controllable? SunSeeker Aug 2021 #4
To the plutocrats who hold the reins of power EYESORE 9001 Aug 2021 #5
To paraphrase a former leader Old Crank Aug 2021 #6
The only freedom they care about is their own. nt doc03 Aug 2021 #10
Two reasons: (1) the lesser of two or more evils and (2) conditions change. Piratedog Aug 2021 #11
Who is "the lesser of two evils"? betsuni Aug 2021 #16
Because they are like most of our corrupt assholes. Power, money, greed, racism, misogyny. joetheman Aug 2021 #12
You have to have a leader that can be bought Chainfire Aug 2021 #17
Because: communism Sur Zobra Aug 2021 #18
Is it Americans or American interests (corporations)? jalan48 Aug 2021 #19
Because Americans are corrupt assholes themselves NameAlreadyTaken Aug 2021 #21
Because they facilitate US economic interests iemanja Aug 2021 #22

Wounded Bear

(63,878 posts)
1. Because corrupt assholes run more "stable" governments...
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 02:23 AM
Aug 2021

that don't change every 4-5 years and aren't subject to the whims of public sentiment.

All better for business.

JHB

(37,965 posts)
7. "He may be a son of a bitch, but he's OUR son of a bitch"
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 05:10 AM
Aug 2021

Attributed to Franklin Roosevelt (but unclear whether he ever actually said it), about a dictator whose identity is also unclear: different sources claim Anastasio Somoza, Francisco Franco, or Rafael Leónidas Trujillo Molina.

modrepub

(3,999 posts)
9. This Type Of Thinking
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 06:16 AM
Aug 2021

Gets us stuck with people like the Shah of Iran. A corrupt dictator who eventually pisses everyone off, flees the country and leaves behind someone who's worse.

Instead of propping up folks who tell us what we want to hear we should be focussing on identifying people who can get things done and govern within our norms. Providing the local populace with some basic working framework of a functioning society and a chance to live in modest freedom will go a long way in developing a stable country.

On our side, having some tolerance to opposing view points that still respect individual rights (but disagree with you) would probably also help. Too many times we've allowed ourselves to act unilaterally when there's any hint of disagreement with our "philosophy".

Wounded Bear

(63,878 posts)
13. Could have sworn it was LBJ who said that...
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 08:31 AM
Aug 2021

that's more his style IMHO. Not sure who he said it about, but I doubt it was Franco. He was a Hitler crony.

JHB

(37,965 posts)
14. LBJ would have happily repeated something like that, but...
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 09:41 AM
Aug 2021

...when looking for its origin, it is attributed (perhaps apocryphally) to FDR.

RockRaven

(18,754 posts)
2. Because the ruling class cares about enriching themselves, not human rights...
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 02:32 AM
Aug 2021

And the media conglomerates tell people who to vote for by nudging them every day in the direction of whoever will continue to enrich the ruling class...

EYESORE 9001

(29,462 posts)
5. To the plutocrats who hold the reins of power
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 04:32 AM
Aug 2021

it’s easier for them to work with dictators. Wouldn’t want someone in charge of an exploited country who actually gave a shit about the welfare of the people.

Old Crank

(6,680 posts)
6. To paraphrase a former leader
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 05:00 AM
Aug 2021

They may be corrupt assholes, but they are our corrupt assholes....
Until we find a more supple corrupt asshole.

Piratedog

(266 posts)
11. Two reasons: (1) the lesser of two or more evils and (2) conditions change.
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 07:51 AM
Aug 2021

Sometimes all there are are corrupt assholes. And the person supported at one time May become corrupt or more corrupt as conditions change.

 

joetheman

(1,450 posts)
12. Because they are like most of our corrupt assholes. Power, money, greed, racism, misogyny.
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 07:51 AM
Aug 2021

Remember the fondness for Al Capone, Jesse James...we seem to like to support the corrupt.

 

Chainfire

(17,757 posts)
17. You have to have a leader that can be bought
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 10:51 AM
Aug 2021

If you want to practice war in their country and on their people for decades, otherwise they balk and want peace.

 

Sur Zobra

(3,428 posts)
18. Because: communism
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 12:11 PM
Aug 2021

Convenient excuse during the Cold War, but also latched onto by true believers. Brutal dictators and strongmen could also be counted on to kill the “communists” in their own countries, i.e., dissidents. It didn’t matter to the U.S. that most, if not all the dissidents weren’t actual communists, but dissidents always scare the shit out of the rich people who, ultimately, have the greatest influence over our country

iemanja

(57,430 posts)
22. Because they facilitate US economic interests
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 12:37 PM
Aug 2021

and, in the short run, geopolitical interests.

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