Woman Fires Back After Applying For Landscaping Job And Getting A Super Sexist Response

[Demovictory9]

https://www.comicsands.com/woman-email-landscaping-sexist-response-2654369416.html

[secondwind]

1. Maybe I'm just getting old... I think her response was a bit over the top.

Just my 2 cents

[jimfields33]

5. I'm surprised. I actually think it was spot on and actually

a bit restrained. The potential employer insulted the person.

[ananda]

20. Agree

I thought it was spot on!

[Blue Dawn]

6. I agree with you, secondwind.

I thought her response was rude and unnecessarily defensive. In my opinion, Mark's email was neither disrespectful nor sexist.



(Edited to make clear to whom I was responding.... ...)

[Bernardo de La Paz]

9. Mark was sexist & therefore rude. He would NEVER ask a MAN if he was a bodybuilder

In any case, bodybuilding does not build endurance or heat tolerance.

She politely pointed out that experience landscaping over-rules any amount of fancy showy mus-kles.

[Treefrog]

16. Thank you.

Plus his grammar is awful.

[Roy Rolling]

19. Speculation

Who knows what he asked men? Putting words in people’s mouths and responding to what we think their underlying political beliefs are is jumping to conclusions.

Civil conversation cannot happen if we’re responding to what we speculate is a hidden political meaning in a person’s statement, instead of what’s said.

It’s likely an employer would also ask a man if he was able to move 100-pound items frequently as a job requirement. It’s an unbiased question, I’m sure the woman got asked that a lot in her career choice and it was understandably the last straw.

Still, we gotta be polite. 😂

[Bernardo de La Paz]

23. Informed speculation based on observation of many sexists. I'd bet against you, bet he would not

... ask men the same question. If I were a betting man. It would be a good bet with a high probability of paying me.

Bodybuilding does not build endurance! It builds specific muscle groups.

If you have concern about employees moving 100-pound items repeatedly, then bodybuilding is NOT the right question to ask.

In any case, in today's world, with liability and such, workers use machinery if they are routinely frequently moving 100-pound items.

It is NOT an unbiased question. It is a sexist SHUT-DOWN question to get rid of the woman by asking her for something she is very UNLIKELY TO HAVE and revealing the sexist nature of the enterprise and what heckling and discrimination she would be in for if she somehow got in.

Women who go to gyms mostly go for fitness, not bodybuilding.

Men who work hard at "hard landscaping" during the day are unlikely to follow it up by going to the gym in the evening for bodybuilding, being too tired.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

27. Speculation, perhaps, but it is how SYSTEMIC racism and sexism work. It's like

... like asking an African-American applicant to law-school if they had a lot of books in their house growing up.

A question that seems reasonable on the face of it because law is an intellectual field. But one that is likely to shame and discourage many people of colour due to poverty and more likely to get a negative answer from one group than from whites. Many people without extensive home libraries instead used the internet or public libraries or school libraries (where they haven't been extinguished).

Not the best example on short notice (law school applicants are beyond low-level discouragement), but the point is that SYSTEMIC racism and sexism are most often hidden in seemingly innocuous ways.

[obamanut2012]

29. No, he wouldn't ask a man that, and you know that

Why are you being disingenuous? You know what you're saying is not based in reality. There is a reason very few women are in the trades, landscaping, etc. Because of sexist attitudes like the email in the OP, and because of folks like you handwaving that ingrained and obvious sexism and discrimination.

Be better.

[malaise]

21. THIS

the truth

[obamanut2012]

26. Mark was very sexist and rude

[North Shore Chicago]

36. You're joking, right?

[Treefrog]

41. I sure hope so.

Hard to read this crap here.

[tonedevil]

39. Bullshit

[ashredux]

11. The first part of you post is correct.... 😊

[Lochloosa]

13. ....

[kcr]

32. ...

[demmiblue]

42. ...

[Elessar Zappa]

12. Why should she be respectful to a sexist asshole?

Her response was perfect.

[NurseJackie]

14. It sounds as though the entire thing is contrived. Fiction.

[treestar]

28. +1

Most people would know that could lead to a lawsuit.

[obamanut2012]

30. It could very well be fiction, but this happens all the time

It's happened to me, my niece, many women and girls I personally know. It happens at big companies and family-owned businesses. Retail, white collar, blue collar.

[Treefrog]

40. It does, but I was once told to my face that they didn't hire women at a landscape company I

applied. Yonks ago, summer job during college. I was amazed he said it to my face. I’m a small woman, but quite strong.

Funny thing, I was hired by another company in the small town. We ended up taking over an irrigation project from the other company because they were unreliable.

[NurseJackie]

44. That's a much better story... with a much more satisfying ending.

I'm glad it worked out. It sounds like they got exactly what they deserved. (Thanks for sharing it!)

[tonedevil]

38. Seems like you are getting downright fossilized. /nt

[abqtommy]

2. I think the response given in the original op is just fine. It's pointed but respectful in contrast

to the message sent to Charlotte. Thanks!

[secondwind]

3. To each his own... I wait for bigger stuff to upset me...

[Demovictory9]

4. such as YOU applying for a job and getting a super sexist response?

[Treefrog]

18. Have you been told you won't be hired for a job because of your gender?

[obamanut2012]

31. Well, employment discrimination on gender is "bigger stuff" to most of us here

You should look into yourself and figure out why it isn't to you, then change that.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

7. She forgot that USA has backward measurement systems. 40 d C is 104 degrees F, for simple folk. . nt

[twodogsbarking]

22. You can't teach those that already know everything.

Their brains are full. I will say that a guy from Canada tried to tell me minus 40 was colder in Celsius
than Fahrenheit. I went along. What is the point.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

24. Yeah. Even Canadians can be ignorant! And maybe she was writing in Canada anyway

Note to others: -40 d C and -40 d F are the same temperature. Below that, the F numbers are bigger (more negative).

[twodogsbarking]

25. My coldest experience was minus 26 F. Shrinkage.

[oasis]

8. Zing!!!

[SunSeeker]

10. Perfect --and hilarious-- response to a douchebag. Wish I could hire her!

[NJCher]

15. the reason Mark's response is so lacking

is that he may say he runs a landscaping company but he really is just a manual laborer.

Landscape architects have to be certified with the state but any clown is free to run around calling himself a landscaper. They do brilliant things like volcano trees and make other similar messes of landscapes.

[chia]

33. "just a manual laborer"

I have to say I'm really surprised and disappointed to see that at DU.

[NJCher]

37. Go ahead

Be disappointed. You’ll really be disappointed when you find out Mr. Landscaper planted your $350 maple tree too close to your house and 5 years later you have to pay to move it or buy a new one.

Credentials count.

[ck4829]

17. K&R

[Oneironaut]

34. Awesome reply! Well deserved, imo.

The e-mail is sexist, and the reply back was tame compared to what was deserved. If she says she can do the work, she can do the work. She doesn’t need a man to decide for her what she can and can’t do.

[niyad]

35. KNR

[fescuerescue]

43. I'm curious why she applied if she held the company in such low regard.

After all she looked into before applying and using the word company in quotations, while talking about their low standards.

Plus it's really nice and convenient that she has screen shots of both sides of the conversation and they both use the same weird white on black phone.

Sounds legit.