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Pete and Chasten Buttigieg have a child! Congrats! (Original Post) irisblue Aug 2021 OP
CONGRATS, to Pete and Chasten and nipper. FalloutShelter Aug 2021 #1
I'm so happy for Secretary Pete and Chasten! 👶 🍼 CottonBear Aug 2021 #2
Congratulations to Pete and Chasten. TomSlick Aug 2021 #3
Great news! Jilly_in_VA Aug 2021 #4
TBH, the dogs, Truman and Buddy and baby photos are what I'm looking forward too irisblue Aug 2021 #5
Yay ... Lovie777 Aug 2021 #6
I am not sure what it means when he says "the process isn't done yet." StevieM Aug 2021 #7
My guess is "closer than you think" Hamlette Aug 2021 #11
Until the process is complete it is always quite possible that the adoption will not happen. StevieM Aug 2021 #14
I wasn't aware of pre-adoption announcements. Hamlette Aug 2021 #16
Are you a family law attorney? Your comments are specific. thx irisblue Aug 2021 #18
I am not an attorney. StevieM Aug 2021 #27
They could have a surrogacy agreement. meadowlander Aug 2021 #12
She could be a surrogate, under contract. Mosby Aug 2021 #13
Maybe they used a surrogate pinkstarburst Aug 2021 #24
Again, it is not appropriate to call a pregnant woman a birth mother. StevieM Aug 2021 #26
What a fortunate child! 3catwoman3 Aug 2021 #8
Kickin' With Gusto! Faux pas Aug 2021 #9
Congratulations! bluewater Aug 2021 #10
They will make wonderful parents! demmiblue Aug 2021 #15
I needed some good news today. MontanaMama Aug 2021 #17
This is wonderful news! Congrats to Sec'y Buttigieg and Chasten! ♥ CaliforniaPeggy Aug 2021 #19
2 things Botany Aug 2021 #20
I can see it now.. Deuxcents Aug 2021 #28
Congratulations!! Pisces Aug 2021 #21
Awwww. Congratulations and best wishes always Hekate Aug 2021 #22
Congrats bdamomma Aug 2021 #23
❤️ 🥰 ❤️ 🥰 ❤️ 🥰 a kennedy Aug 2021 #25

irisblue

(33,047 posts)
5. TBH, the dogs, Truman and Buddy and baby photos are what I'm looking forward too
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 01:54 PM
Aug 2021

RW heads blowing up is just a side sweet treat

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
7. I am not sure what it means when he says "the process isn't done yet."
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 01:59 PM
Aug 2021

But let's be clear about something: if he is saying that they have an adoption plan made, but the baby has not yet been born and adopted, then Pete and Chasten have not become parents.

A pregnant woman is not a birth mother. She is an expectant mother, and then she is the new mom. Prospective adoptive parents are not parents until the child is born and the papers are signed.

If this is a prospective adoption then Pete and Chasten should not be using coercive language. The expectant mother has absolutely no obligation, legal or moral, to follow through with this plan and allow them to adopt the baby.

Hamlette

(15,412 posts)
11. My guess is "closer than you think"
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 02:08 PM
Aug 2021

I read this article yesterday https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/chasten-buttigieg-pete-buttigieg-washington/2021/07/23/e10fd616-e388-11eb-b722-89ea0dde7771_story.html

It talks about how they have tried to adopt for a year and how difficult it has been. They have been told before that they had a child only to be told soon after that the mother changed her mind. My thinking is that they would not be announcing another "near miss" in this process.

Edited to add: adoption is a process. When my gay cousin adopted in another state, the birth mother relinquished rights and my cousin had the child in her possession but was not allowed to leave the state until a judge signed off on it 7 days later. The birth mother contacted my cousin to say she had changed her mind, my cousin told her she was going through with it anyway and the adoption went through as planned. My cousin's son is now 4.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
14. Until the process is complete it is always quite possible that the adoption will not happen.
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 02:13 PM
Aug 2021

I don't approve of these kinds of pre-adoption announcements. They can have the effect of being coercive. Often the expectant mother is placed under pressure not to break the prospective adoptive parents hearts by backing out of the adoption plan.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
27. I am not an attorney.
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 04:31 PM
Aug 2021

But I do know how about the tactics that are used to coerce expectant mothers who have indicated that they are willing to do an adoption. They can be placed under intense pressure "not to break the parents hearts." Those tactics include referring to the prospective adoptive parents as the parents and calling the expectant mother a birth mother so that she is made to feel like she has no moral right to keep her own baby, even if she changes her mind.

pinkstarburst

(1,327 posts)
24. Maybe they used a surrogate
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 03:13 PM
Aug 2021

I'm thinking Pete and Chasten know a heck of a lot more about their situation and the specifics involved than you do making blind guesses. Pete is pretty media savvy. I highly doubt he would announce something like this prematurely if there was the worry the birth mother could change her mind.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
26. Again, it is not appropriate to call a pregnant woman a birth mother.
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 04:27 PM
Aug 2021

She is not a birth mother until the baby is born and the papers are signed.

Botany

(70,635 posts)
20. 2 things
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 03:01 PM
Aug 2021

1. That child will be loved.

2. Mayor Pete and his husband asked for privacy and
I can respect that.

Btw Joe and Jill will be the best friend that child will ever have.... watch Joe put up a crib and changing table in the oval office.

Deuxcents

(16,404 posts)
28. I can see it now..
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 10:11 PM
Aug 2021

What I great thought. It’ll be fun way watching that.. and, of course, heads exploding

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