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dianaredwing

(406 posts)
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 08:31 PM Aug 2021

I've never seen a statesman such as Joe Biden

in all of my 73 years. He transcends the idea of politician. He transcends the idea of presidency. I won't live to see another of his ilk. I hope that you do. And I hope that you young legislators learn from the best, because he is.

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I've never seen a statesman such as Joe Biden (Original Post) dianaredwing Aug 2021 OP
I have been fortunate enough to meet Joe twice in person and I agree LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2021 #1
what brought this on Skittles Aug 2021 #2
Just reading all the crap dianaredwing Aug 2021 #3
you mean, how fucked up Afghanistan is right now? Skittles Aug 2021 #6
Not just that dianaredwing Aug 2021 #11
I feel like Biden has done all he can do for Covid Skittles Aug 2021 #12
You do the best you can with what you've got dianaredwing Aug 2021 #13
Bingo!!! nt pazzyanne Aug 2021 #14
"Fix it now or you aren't doing your job." Grokenstein Aug 2021 #17
THAT is what was SO glaringly obvious with IQ45........ MyOwnPeace Aug 2021 #15
Totally agree. FalloutShelter Aug 2021 #4
He's great, but I'm not going that far, personally (nt) Hugh_Lebowski Aug 2021 #5
oh come on, Hugh! Skittles Aug 2021 #7
Better this than the other shit I've been hearing, but ... you know me ... Hugh_Lebowski Aug 2021 #9
Dude...Abide COL Mustard Aug 2021 #22
Statescraft is something that goes beyond mere governing dianaredwing Aug 2021 #8
He's not backing down. He's owning the evacuation. We know it good have gone better... brush Aug 2021 #10
I'm so glad we have our President Biden, we definitely caught a break Hortensis Aug 2021 #16
And right now President Joe and the K-Bomb are ... Botany Aug 2021 #18
Meanwhile back on Earth 1 as Rachel says.... Jon King Aug 2021 #19
Amen Joinfortmill Aug 2021 #20
When I was so sure I wanted Elizabeth Warren, vanlassie Aug 2021 #21
I was a Joe Kamala combination supporter Tetrachloride Aug 2021 #23
I agree, and am very glad you posted this. soldierant Aug 2021 #24
For this thread LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2021 #25

dianaredwing

(406 posts)
3. Just reading all the crap
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 08:38 PM
Aug 2021

that the talking heads spout, seemingly ignorant of the intricities of statecraft.

dianaredwing

(406 posts)
11. Not just that
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 08:54 PM
Aug 2021

But the Covid crap and everybody whining. Fix it now or you aren't doing your job. I just hate whiners and our country seems to be infested with them. As does the world. Nothing is contained within a single country. We are a global entity and it is all tied in together. Therefore, our leaders must be able to not only lead their own nations, but somehow negotiate with other countries. Covid is not deterred by manmade borders.

Skittles

(153,160 posts)
12. I feel like Biden has done all he can do for Covid
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 08:57 PM
Aug 2021

he's not the only one unable to crack cult behavior

Afghanistan, well, that is bad, no question about it......it LOOKS like not enough was done to prepare for was has always been INEVITABLE

dianaredwing

(406 posts)
13. You do the best you can with what you've got
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 09:04 PM
Aug 2021

At least you should. And I think that Biden does that. You can't change people who don't want to change whether they are American anti-vaxers or Afghanis.

Grokenstein

(5,722 posts)
17. "Fix it now or you aren't doing your job."
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 09:48 PM
Aug 2021

"Also we will fight every step you take to fix it. SO FIX IT NOW!!"

MyOwnPeace

(16,926 posts)
15. THAT is what was SO glaringly obvious with IQ45........
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 09:40 PM
Aug 2021

he had NO CLUE about the job - the 'statecraft' - the 'leadership' - the 'commitment' - the RESPONSIBILITY of the position.
Joe has seen it all from his years in DC - and has learned his lessons well.

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
9. Better this than the other shit I've been hearing, but ... you know me ...
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 08:48 PM
Aug 2021

I really try to deal in reality as best as humanly possible

dianaredwing

(406 posts)
8. Statescraft is something that goes beyond mere governing
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 08:48 PM
Aug 2021

And very few have it. I would suggest that perhaps Lincoln had it. I don't know anyone in my lifetime, however, who seemed to be able to leave his ego behind and do what he saw was the right thing regardless of personal consequences, to make the resolution somehow more tolerable to all parties. I'm not saying he has no foibles, as we all do, but in his job, he is superb.

brush

(53,776 posts)
10. He's not backing down. He's owning the evacuation. We know it good have gone better...
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 08:51 PM
Aug 2021

but who expected the Afghan army to fold like cheap suits in a matter of a few days. He doesn't make the logistics decisions. The military does but they didn't expect the Afghanis to give up so easily either. They thought they had much more time.

But now that the evacuation is under way, I'm glad Joe Biden made the move that had to be done after twenty year of lost national treasure in training soldiers who ultimately wouldn't fight for their own nation.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
16. I'm so glad we have our President Biden, we definitely caught a break
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 09:43 PM
Aug 2021

when he was able to run, but also believe he's not nearly so unique as some imagine. Sure, not many have as many years of experience, including in the WH, but personal ability and principles, absolutely.

Botany

(70,501 posts)
18. And right now President Joe and the K-Bomb are ...
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 09:49 PM
Aug 2021

... building what will be an almost unstoppable of a new Democratic Party. Joe has skills.

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
19. Meanwhile back on Earth 1 as Rachel says....
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 10:01 PM
Aug 2021

Rachel just had on a guest who spoke to a bunch of people at the airport in Kabul. A few hundred troops with zero supplies. The soldiers are saying they do not even have barb wire to establish the perimeter they need to establish. They said the surge in state department personnel they were promised yesterday never arrived.

Sorry, the administration needs to get its head out of its tail on this matter.

vanlassie

(5,670 posts)
21. When I was so sure I wanted Elizabeth Warren,
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 10:21 PM
Aug 2021

I was naive. Only JOE has/has the depth of experience to be in this moment. Period.

Tetrachloride

(7,839 posts)
23. I was a Joe Kamala combination supporter
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 10:59 PM
Aug 2021

for quite a while. i had a spreadsheet to measure electability.

The effectiveness of Team Blue: Joe Kamala Nancy Pelosi Chuck Schumer and Team Georgia Staci Abrams really exceeded my expectations.

soldierant

(6,857 posts)
24. I agree, and am very glad you posted this.
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 11:14 PM
Aug 2021

I'm 76 , so I won't live to see another either.

But I really get tired of blame,and even more of misplaced blame.

Though I was already signed up, I was not looking at DU in 2016, but I was looking elsewhere, and I'm thinking this is starting to look a whole lot like 2016.

On a separate but relatd topic, I also wish people would stop asking/petitioning elected officials to so something which is not their job. I just received an email from someone who should know better asking me to petition President Biden to tell the DOJ to prosecute Trump** Why can't people see that that would be one of the worst kinds of corruption? Telling the DOJ to prosecute someone who happens to be a political enemy? No, Joe is not going to do that, and stop asking him to! If you want the Department of Justice told to prosecute Trump**, tell them yourself. The DOJ represents the people, and you're a people.

When Republicans claim Nancy Pelosi is responsible for Capitol Security (in case you missed it, she isn't), I expect that - from Republicans, even ones who know better, because they don't care, they just want to hurt her. I don't expect such from Democrats, Liberals, Progressives.

I apologize for letting what was supposed to be an expression of gratitude turn into a rant. But I think I'll leave it.

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