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An Alabama doctor is tired of helping people who refuse to protect themselves and others so hes no longer taking appointments with anti-vaxxers. Mobile, Ala., physician Dr. Jason Valentine posted a photo on Facebook in which hes seen standing in front of a sign that reads Effective Oct. 1, 2021, Dr. Valentine will no longer see patients that are not vaccinated against COVID-19.
Alabama is one of several southern states that has struggled to contain the pandemic, due in part to vaccine skepticism. Valentine doesnt appear to be picking on the ignorant so much as he doesnt want to watch them hack, gasp and cough themselves to death after finally coming to appreciate the wonders of modern medicine once its too late.
If they asked why, I told them covid is a miserable way to die and I cant watch them die like that, he wrote. We do not yet have any great treatments for severe disease, but we do have great prevention with vaccines. Unfortunately, many have declined to take the vaccine, and some end up severely ill or dead, that letter reportedly says. I cannot and will not force anyone to take the vaccine, but I also cannot continue to watch my patients suffer and die from an eminently preventable disease.
Valentine plans to send a letter to his patients telling them that if they object to his position,
he will happily forward their medical records to a practitioner of their choosing.
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ny-doctor-stops-seeing-anti-vaxxers-vaccination-covid-20210817-lewvzechabfbzje3e7vvj42zdu-story.html
SoCalDavidS
(9,998 posts)TheBlackAdder
(28,189 posts)OnDoutside
(19,956 posts)Pinback
(12,154 posts)OnDoutside
(19,956 posts)calimary
(81,227 posts)I think if I were a doctor, Id probably make a move like this, too.
We are awash in people who literally refuse to do the right thing for their own good.
Raftergirl
(1,285 posts)These people dont deserve to be treated by physicians.
Lucky Luciano
(11,254 posts)Goonch
(3,607 posts)Highway61
(2,568 posts)EOM...
liberalla
(9,243 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,146 posts)Wonder where they learned that from! Because it's all the same, narcissistic gaslighters looking to overturn reality to please their own whims and pocketbooks.
Ms. Toad
(34,069 posts)It also makes his office considerably safer for his other patients.
flor-de-jasmim
(2,125 posts)Ms. Toad
(34,069 posts)roamer65
(36,745 posts)dalton99a
(81,468 posts)yonder
(9,664 posts)BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)StarryNite
(9,444 posts)"Those who didnt agree with Valentines new policy wondered if hed continue to treat smokers who have cancer or diabetics, who dont live healthily. Valentine told his Facebook followers his mandate wouldnt include people who are ineligible for vaccinations, like children."
Smoking, cancer, and diabetes are not contagious.
Why would anti-vaxxers go to a doctor when they don't trust doctors or science? I wish more doctors would take this doctor's position.
Me.
(35,454 posts)Sinistrous
(4,249 posts)doesn't this put at risk his license to practice medicine?
dalton99a
(81,468 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)There's no license risk that I'm aware of.
Captain Zero
(6,805 posts)For a variety of reasons.
1. Not following doctor's directions.
littlemissmartypants
(22,646 posts)The Unmitigated Gall
(3,807 posts)An existing patient would need to be provided with referrals; doctors have a right to sever relations with patients, but you cant abandon them. You can set terms for starting with a new patient because you have not yet formally assumed the role of provider.
Horse with no Name
(33,956 posts)He gave them notice. All that is required
Roc2020
(1,615 posts)is one many have to experience before getting the vaccine. problem is there may not be any recovery from the first kick.
malaise
(268,967 posts)As yuo make your bed so shall you die
littlemissmartypants
(22,646 posts)LaMouffette
(2,030 posts)The crazies on the right are worked up into to a frenzy and they love nothing better than having an actual, identifiable target to lash out at, whether it's Nancy Pelosi, President Obama, Hillary Clinton, Dr. Fauci, Governor Whitmer of Michigan . . .
I hope he hires personal security guards.
Ilsa
(61,694 posts)protection as if they were Planned Parenthood clinics?
LaMouffette
(2,030 posts)Initech
(100,068 posts)RockRaven
(14,966 posts)the only doctor to do this, not by a long shot. His location maybe makes it more remarkable though...
dalton99a
(81,468 posts)https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2770611
FakeNoose
(32,634 posts)It's not a question of politics. He can't waste valuable time arguing with patients that are too stupid to listen. Why should he take the chance of unvaccinated people infecting his other patients and office staff?
samnsara
(17,622 posts)Warpy
(111,254 posts)but don't have that kind of autonomy.
It would be great if someone gets belligerent over the Covid diagnosis because Pox News said it was a hoax if they could say, "OK, you don't have it, there's the door, go home and die in ignorance," but they can't. The job isn't to fix stupid, it's to allow stupid to escape some of the consequences.
That's one reason everybody is getting burned out. They're overwhelmed with it.
Martin Eden
(12,864 posts)Might change a few minds and save a few lives.
lindysalsagal
(20,679 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,146 posts)Basically he is leaving palliative care to other physicians, which I think is the best way to cover himself legally. The man is frustrated, I'm sure it does take a psychological toll.
Zorro
(15,740 posts)That's how anti-vaxxers/anti-maskers roll.
Lonestarblue
(9,981 posts)They dont want the unvaccinated to spread diseases like measles to the rest of their small patients. Once the Covid vaccine are approved for all children, I hope pediatricians also refuse to treat the unvaccinated and schools refuse to allow unvaccinated to attend. They should be doing that now for those 12+. Requirements for children to be vaccinated before attending school are decades old. Covid should be treated the same.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)Mr.Bill
(24,284 posts)but it's not good news for the Emergency Rooms in his area where his patients may go instead. By law, they can't refuse to see the patients. I guess some of them may just find another doctor who will see them.
sarge43
(28,941 posts)Why should he put himself, his staff and his family at risk because of some mouth breathers.
MustLoveBeagles
(11,599 posts)Demobrat
(8,976 posts)Anti-vaxxers would probably deny they had Covid and accuse him of malpractice anyway.
blueinredohio
(6,797 posts)Good for him.
MetalMama
(83 posts)NH Ethylene
(30,810 posts)Which of these would be okay with you? And if one is okay, why can't doctors select for the others as well?
* Vaccinated people only
* No homeless people
* Nonsmokers only
* Heterosexuals only
* No criminals
* Whites only
* No transgender people
* Citizens only
* No Democrats
BoycottTimHortons
(34 posts)Unvaccinated people are a literal threat to public health. This is not about letting your political beliefs or bigotry interfere with your job. What a disgustingly disingenuous argument.
Demobrat
(8,976 posts)that is contagious.
NH Ethylene
(30,810 posts)And there really isn't a situation that directly compares to this. HIV possibly, since medical personnel could be infected from a patient via an accidental needle prick.
The people who opt out of Covid vaccines may be misguided, confused, suffering from paranoia, under the spell of a cult-like movement, or just stupid and gullible. Or maybe they are filled with hate and rage toward "The Libs." But they are still human beings and they don't deserve to be deprived of medical treatment because of it.
Saying that they may be transmitting the virus is true to some extent - although those of us who are vaccinated could be doing exactly the same right now without even knowing it - but physicians and nurses and EMTs are expected to tend to those who are contagious with any and all diseases.
Really the only reason this doctor is doing this is to make a point and to weed out all but the 'good' patients. It's a form of snobbery to exclude the ignorant, the paranoid, the brainwashed and the willfully stubborn from your medical practice.
gulliver
(13,180 posts)His waiting room and other rooms instantly become safer. And, after all, he's a doctor. The people who go to see him are likely more vulnerable than other people, by definition. Pharmacies should be like this too. Weak and vulnerable people shouldn't have to stand in line at a pharmacy behind a coughing anti-vax fool. The vax lax can go to the drive-up window.
marble falls
(57,080 posts)Ferrets are Cool
(21,106 posts)but people surprise me all the time.
genxlib
(5,524 posts)This is one waiting room that doesnt run Fox News all the time.
I wholeheartedly approve.
Vinca
(50,269 posts)isolated from normal life. They've had (and have) every opportunity to get a FREE vaccine that could SAVE THEIR LIVES. They've been coddled, cajoled, bribed and even shamed, but appear willing to die a horrible death for whatever the hell their cause is. Now it's time to limit their access to services they want . . . for OUR safety.