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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIt's Time To Let Go
It's time to pull the plug on our brain-dead RW brethren, and say our final farewells as they slip into whatever version of the afterlife they believe awaits them - e.g. that heavenly place where their God only welcomes lily-white 'Christians' who stood their ground while the War on Christmas was being waged in malls across the country.
It's time to acknowledge the sacrifices of the conspiracy theorists who died of Covid-19 while dismissing the pandemic as a hoax, and honour their service of causing thousands of deaths by spreading disinformation that they pretended was fact.
It's time to inform the GOP idiots that we recognize their 'base' as who they are - people too dumb to realize they've been played.
Trump's "base" is epitomized by the 1/6 insurrectionists - people stupid enough to film themselves committing crimes, people dumb enough to think the Orange Anus would bail them out when they were arrested for doing his bidding, and those who literally shit in the Capitol and smeared their feces on the floors and walls - proud of wallowing in their own filth.
It's time to let go of the Trump-humpers, and stop pretending they can somehow be salvaged if we present them with enough facts they clearly have no interest in.
Now is the time for all Americans to come to the aid of their country. And those who refuse to do so are duly noted.
niyad
(113,752 posts)Mr. Evil
(2,863 posts)I read your post. I immediately thought, *Nance*. I scrolled up and of course, it was.
You are so correct. Spot on, as always.
pwb
(11,303 posts)The GOP.
calimary
(81,560 posts)(Oh my.)
Evolve Dammit
(16,803 posts)calimary
(81,560 posts)A close friends dad used to have a favorite saying for when you reach the I-dont-know-what-else-to-do-about-it point:
Spray it gold and laugh at it!
Indeed, Id go over to her house and invariably thered be some newspaper spread flat-out on the floor that some random object had been set down upon. The object was long gone but you knew what it was anyway because you could see its silhouette left on the newspaper, in gold. Whatever it was, hed be putting it up on display somewhere when it had dried, after having sprayed it gold so we all could laugh at it!
Gotta tell ya - in my mind I have sprayed entire rooms full of PEOPLE gold to have a good laugh at them (republiCON gatherings in particular)! Except for the donald who almost literally worships gold. Him I spray brown - the color of poo.
And if some target sees you laughing, you can be pretty sure they wont understand exactly why!
Evolve Dammit
(16,803 posts)niyad
(113,752 posts)reality1
(123 posts)I was just in deep red Mohave county visiting some old friends. The brainwashing is stunning. Fox News on in every bar and restaurant. Every discussion ready to become political at any time. All the way down the rabbit hole.
ScratchCat
(2,017 posts)Its 100% true and so sad. They try to pivot any discussion into their victimhood or false reality where people who make six figures are "the oppressed". I work in real estate in north Florida and its all the same. Every guy in a $90K truck who runs cattle on his 500 to 1,000 acre farm is a victim of liberals because the money he pays in taxes "goes to black people". No discussion to be had with such folks.
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)but 30k dead in Florida alone, including a lot of their neighbors, did not change that at all, not ONE bit. As much as I would like to think it is just Fox, or even trump, the bottom line is, this is something that was always deep in America's bones. America is controlled by pale people who do not want to coexist with anyone, who will let the rich man take a hundred dollars from him while looking at whatever pennies the brown or black makes. The only difference is that the right-wing knew they lost Hollywood, so they went straight to the internet, which is part of the reason they are hyping streaming so much.
Moostache
(9,897 posts)Those same people looking at the pennies the people of color are getting will be just fine with anything the rich pay masters tell them so long as it means they get just one more penny than the people of color...they are just fine with being oppressed and used so long as they can mentally tell themselves they are still superior.
This bizarre behavior is rife in ALL of their decisions and passions...its why they could care less about killing old people or kids or the immuno-suppressed as long as it means they can tell themselves they are "owning the libs".
Its sick, but its real...
Glaisne
(517 posts)If you can convince the lowest white man hes better than the best colored man, he wont notice youre picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and hell empty his pockets for you.
Moostache
(9,897 posts)Its sad but true and is at the very heart of so much of the current divisions we're facing - past ones too obviously.
OldBaldy1701E
(5,195 posts)That they did not 'lose' Hollywood as much as they went there, found plenty of people who were willing to do the job of the rethug and get paid, and did what they always do. The issue is that these actors, producers, and so on were playing a part, as they always do. The right wing then watched as these same people took the money that they made from acting for these wingers and put it into things that were the opposite of what the wingers wanted. The right wing has it's position in Hollywood, but it is not the power position they were hoping for. Turns out that even a group of people as money hungry as the entertainment industry will still be themselves once the cameras were off (which is a major difference between the two groups, as far as I am concerned. Most rethugs would sell out their own mothers if the price was right). I also feel that the main reason these people love the internet is because of the anonymity of it. You really don't see any of those rabid posters willing to fess up to their online personas once someone comes knocking. So much for their convictions, eh?
calimary
(81,560 posts)To something NASCAR or other sports maybe?
Ive actually tried it, always very politely, and only once did it not work. That was in a restaurant where the young woman at the desk very politely declined, saying the owner mandated it be on Pox Noise at all times. But thats been the only time.
True Blue American
(17,995 posts)Who was in the pool swimming every morning. We had to watch what we said because we were in the middle of Republican City. She had quit coming before the election. Her face lit up when she saw me behind her.
She first said the water was too warm so she went some place else. I asked her if she was happy the way things were going. She then admitted she left because she could not deal with the right bulls***!!! The lifeguard she argued with had a stroke and died. She is worse than I am if that is possible!
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)gab13by13
(21,480 posts)he just brought them out of the shadows.
Lemon Lyman
(1,351 posts)He brought them out of the shadows and showed them it was okay to be an azzhole with his azzholiness. Before most of them knew they had to be (what they call "politically correct" decent people out in the world. He came along with a wrecking ball and showed them that they can be total jerks to whomever they want whenever they want. Yeah, they existed before he was there. But I don't think it's just a greater # of cell phone cameras in peoples' hands that is causing all this rude behavior. It's worse than it used to be, mostly because of him. That's why they worship him so much. "Hey, I can yell at someone in public now! My president does it all the time!"
brush
(53,963 posts)playbook. The following two graphs...just beautiful.
It's time to inform the GOP idiots that we recognize their 'base' as who they are - people too dumb to realize they've been played.
Now is the time for all Americans to come to the aid of their country. And those who refuse to do so are duly noted.
Jon King
(1,910 posts)Don't care how the feel, why they voted for him, their concerns. Do not want to see one more CNN focus group or interview outside a rally.
They are deranged lunatics who are directly harming the future of my kids. So that makes them my mortal enemy.
LaMouffette
(2,042 posts)our fellow Americans upon meeting them for the first time. You like Trump? Oh, okay. Now I know who you are.
Turds of a feather flock together.
Cousin Dupree
(1,866 posts)soldierant
(6,945 posts)Instead of using reasoning, they control them with the power of stories.
It wouldn't hurt us to learn how to do that.
2naSalit
(86,889 posts)toughtony
(88 posts)They know he's full of it. They know he's a POS. They also know that he gives them a platform to vent their anger at the world. And that's all they really want. A leader who will foxnews their feelings on a large stage and tell them, "you're right, I'm with you!" I've met these people, I work around them, I've gone deep sea fishing with them. They walk, talk, and breath right wing politics all day long. The hate they harbor in their hearts is cancerous but they nurture it as though it was a little baby needing milk to survive. These people have been and always will be the most dangerous citizens in this country. They have little regard for human life that doesn't look like them. So they have no problem killing you. What they need is a strong leader in a very powerful position to give them the opportunity and funding they need to change our way of life. We will have to fight, some of us will die, some have, but to prevent the rise of authoritarianism, we will have to fight. Everything I see is like a page right of a fascism playbook. Marjorie Taylor Greene, who I think is a russian asset, did a full face only tic-toc where she called biden a piece of Sh...t! I've never seen anything like it. Loren bobert praised the taliban even though they would never let her carry a side arm. We are paying these idiots hundreds of thousands of dollars per year in taxpayer money to fight against their own government!!
Moostache
(9,897 posts)They DO NOT get to mouth off to cameras, have an opinion, or speak freely about anyone.
They not only get their guns taken away, they also lose their voice, their vote and any semblance of agency.
These 2 nitwits are way too stupid to realize that, but there must be a few in their fan clubs who could understand it...right?
ChazInAz
(2,575 posts)They go full rabid mongrel, still, over the ginned up lies told about her, despite the fact that those "scandals" were disproved decades ago.
And now, they're doing the same things that she was falsely accused of.
I despair of my fellow Americans.
Evolve Dammit
(16,803 posts)They are fact-finding and that is all. If it drags on, it will just seem irrelevant. The collective attention span of USA is gnat-like. If they could find out who funded, planned and orchestrated 1/6 and DOJ indicted the organizers and operatives, maybe we could turn this around. But I'm not that hopeful right now.
The Wizard
(12,552 posts)shortly after he started his jihad against normal people in 2016. I refuse to piss into the wind or waste valuable time with immoral rubes and dupes. I will let Darwin exact his revenge.
moondust
(20,019 posts)yesterday on Nicolle Wallace's show was bemoaning that so many of them now don't even see themselves as part of a larger collective, that for them it's all about me me me me me me me me. (Sound familiar?) That "ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country" no longer applies.
In that sense I suppose many could be considered anarchists. That could also partly explain their objections to vaccines, masks, etc., and anything else the government wants or needs to do for the good of the collective.
"Government is not the solution to our problem, government is the problem." - Infamous actor from "Bedtime for Bonzo"
Moostache
(9,897 posts)They must be told:
No shirt?
No shoes?
No shot?
No service!
They can CHOOSE to remain unvaccinated, but the CONSEQUENCE of that CHOICE is not being allowed into crowded indoor venues or businesses. Their children are FREE to run around and infect each other all day long, but they cannot INFECT other children through lack of a mask in schools.
Fuck these idiots, we - the rational, sane citizens of the nation - are NOT theirs to bully or infect or kill.
RicROC
(1,204 posts)And do what he can do to get people vax'd. Governors have a difficult time overriding presidential mandates during a national emergency.
Hekate
(90,959 posts)Nevilledog
(51,261 posts)pandr32
(11,637 posts)gademocrat7
(10,680 posts)Absolutely on point, NanceGreggs.
dlk
(11,597 posts)Some people are just too stupid to live.
totodeinhere
(13,059 posts)Personally, I don't care if they refuse vaccines and mask wearing except that we are never going to defeat this virus as long as there is a large pool of right wingers refusing to do what is necessary. If my neighbor refuses to get vaccinated, then I might say good riddance to them. But what if my neighbor exposes me or my wife? We are both vaccinated but we could get a breakthrough infection or spread it to others who are ineligible to be vaccinated. Like it or not we are all in this together.
11 Bravo
(23,928 posts)Jakes Progress
(11,123 posts)IronLionZion
(45,615 posts)Have a blessed passing RWers!
NoMoreRepugs
(9,500 posts)once I realized that despite being successful most were dumb trumphumpers (AKA Deplorable morons) and NEVER going to change.
Botany
(70,635 posts)Nancy, you might get your wish this Saturday. Thousands of maskless, older, obese (in most cases), white
redneck type of people, all packed together in an Alabama farm field, with temps to be in the 80s or 90s, with
a chance of thunderstorms, a huge wave of the delta C-19 virus disease going through the state (no ICU beds),
and everybody will be screaming too. Don really is putting thousands of his biggest supporters lives @ risk
just to inflate his ego.
https://news.yahoo.com/large-gatherings-health-officials-shivering-123400059.html?fr=yhssrp_catchall
BTW not unless this one is different from all of Trump's other Bund rallies it is almost always the same people
time after time who got to "these things."
https://events.donaldjtrump.com/events/rally-in-cullman-alabama
rustydog
(9,186 posts)You nailed it dead-on.
Lonestarblue
(10,138 posts)They arent just going to disappear. They are our neighbors and unfortunately our elected representatives. There is no rational discussion to be had with them about most topicsthey would probably somehow turn a discussion of the rain into blame for Biden and liberals.
Where I fault the media today is that people are allowed to have grievances and to have them aired 24/7. Those of us who have had to delay our own healthcare because the hospitals are once again full of unnecessary Covid patients have grievances too. I know of three friends who delayed going to the doctor because of Covid and before we had vaccines, and all three of them have been diagnosed with Stage 4 cancer of different types. And what about the children with cancer who need to be in the hospital but now have to share a ward with highly infectious Covid patients.
And what about our grievances about a minority of these people who want to deny us our right to make personal decisions about our bodies and our reproductive rights? They have the right not to get vaccinated or wear masks and cause illness saying its their choice, but they think we have no equivalent right to make our own choices. And on and on.
We all have lots of grievances, and thank heaven for DU that lets us air them, but I feel totally frustrated that we have so many people who are so selfish that they dont care how many people they help kill by deliberately spreading a virus and choose to believe fairy tales and conspiracies rather than facts and science. Im ready to support a movement to split into two countries. I dont see the red half ever being reasonable again. Yes, I know, its an impossibility, but let me dream for a bit about what it would be like to have fellow citizens who actually care about democracy and real freedom instead of their fake freedoms.
cynical_idealist
(362 posts)If we can keep implementing reasonable, democratic and progressive policies, the future can be so much brighter.
If the pugs take over, we're looking at some dystopian authoritarian nightmare:
disease, poverty, pollution, climate collapse,
exponentially increased suffering
diehardblue
(11,001 posts)Gregory Peccary
(490 posts)The grace period is over
Martin Eden
(12,881 posts)To wit:
As a lifelong liberal, I finally understand that your refusal to be vaccinated is a patriotic act for the good of our country.
Sure, death rates will continue to climb for you and all the patriotic conservatives who stand with you on the principle of freedom. Your sacrifices will not go unnoticed, and are very much appreciated!
What you are doing (or refusing to do) will ultimately help to make America great again. Your sacrifice will accelerate the replacement of the White conservative demographic by immigrants across our Southern border, Muslim refugees, and liberals like me and so many others in Blue states who are fearfully doing everything we can to survive this pandemic by wearing masks and getting vaccinated.
As you die off in increasing numbers it won't be long before efforts at voter suppression will not be enough to keep Red states from turning Blue. Democrats will be swept to power and stay there.
Then America will finally live up to its highest principles of equality, life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness without the threat of global warming and autocratic would-be dictators like the twice impeached loser you love more than your own health and safety.
A grateful nation thanks you, with condolences in advance.
MontanaMama
(23,366 posts)They can all go to hell. I've got nothing for them. Nothing.
CaptainTruth
(6,615 posts)They have shown us they cannot be reasoned with, therefore they must be defeated.
dianaredwing
(406 posts)but WILLFULLY SELF-INDULGENT, not to mention extremely self-centered.
My next door neighbor was bound to get it because he didn't want the government to tell him what to do so wouldn't get a shot He is a highly educated composer and pianist. The government didn't tell him to do SHIT. This was his decision. His other neighbor and I look forward to the booster when it becomes available and hope he doesn't die because we don't know what would happen to his dogs.
I used to like the guy, but I find it very hard to like someone for whom I have zero respect.
BigBearJohn
(11,410 posts)"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe."
Albert Einstein
BigBearJohn
(11,410 posts)"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it."
Laurence J. Peter, The Peter Principle
Glaisne
(517 posts)They bring upon themselves. Good riddance.
Progressive Jones
(6,011 posts)They will still be making life in our nation difficult and dangerous.
It's illegal to hunt them.
FakeNoose
(32,854 posts)That's exactly right! Thank you NanceGreggs, this needs to be said.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,397 posts)Tommymac
(7,263 posts)These are the same folks.
Faux pas
(14,703 posts)Blue Owl
(50,546 posts)Richard58
(239 posts)I love your posts and your analysis is spot on! I've totally given up on the MAGA morons! I've had it up to here with their idiocy, their hatred and their selfishness. They are beyond redemption. They live in a bubble world where logic and common sense have no place there. Asking them to wear a mask during a pandemic is too much for them! They rant and rave about "Muh freedum!" without ever thinking about their responsibilities. In fact the whole concept of the collective good is lost on them. It's all about me, me, me. They won't get the covid shot but will inject bleach into their veins or eat horse de-wormer tablets, (Yes that is a thing now!), to stop Covid. And even when they do get Covid they refuse to believe they have it! And if they survive they still won't get the vaccine! This is how dumb they are!
And then they rant about "the communist takeover of 'Murica" which isn't a thing! (Apparently any government program that helps people is "communist" in their eyes.) They are extremely bigoted towards anyone who isn't EXACTLY like them: white, Christian and straight. And they love laws that suppress the rights of minorities. (Gotta keep them in their place ya know!) They are just hateful, brain-dead bastards and proud of it. I have coworkers, neighbors and old High school friends that are Trumpites I don't understand the way they think. We never discuss politics because it always becomes ugly.
They worship an amoral, hateful, dumb as a rock man who wears orange make-up, has a ludicrous comb-over and wears suits that don't fit hm. Trump is their Messiah and they are willing to kill and die for him. It's appalling. God help us if they get control of the Presidency and Congress again! In closing they can't be reasoned with. They can only be defeated at the polls. We MUST stop them before they turn the USA into a totally fascist state!
kpete
(72,038 posts)Marcuse
(7,551 posts)a) The Director may authorize the apprehension, medical examination, quarantine, isolation, or conditional release of any individual for the purpose of preventing the introduction, transmission, and spread of quarantinable communicable diseases, as specified by Executive Order, based upon a finding that:
(1) The individual is reasonably believed to be infected with a quarantinable communicable disease in a qualifying stage and is moving or about to move from a State into another State; or
(2) The individual is reasonably believed to be infected with a quarantinable communicable disease in a qualifying stage and constitutes a probable source of infection to other individuals who may be moving from a State into another State.
(b) The Director will arrange for adequate food and water, appropriate accommodation, appropriate medical treatment, and means of necessary communication for individuals who are apprehended or held in quarantine or isolation under this part.
[82 FR 6971, Jan. 19, 2017]
https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/42/70.6
bucolic_frolic
(43,442 posts)and posting and bragging about them in public forums