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Demovictory9

(32,454 posts)
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 06:27 AM Aug 2021

Woman Who Drove SUV Into 2 Children Due to Their Race Given 25 Years By Federal Judge

Woman Who Drove SUV Into 2 Children Due to Their Race Given 25 Years By Federal Judge
Rebecca Klapper 13 hrs ago

A white Iowa woman who said she drove her SUV into two children in 2019 to try to kill them because of their race was sentenced to 25 years in prison by a federal judge on hate crimes charges, the Associated Press reported.

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Prosecutors said Poole Franklin targeted a 12-year-old Black boy and a 14-year-old Latina girl on December 9, 2019, in Des Moines due to their race.

Poole Franklin pleaded guilty to two federal hate crime charges in May.


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Prosecutors said she first drove over a curb and struck the boy, saying she ran him over because he's "just like ISIS" and "he's not supposed to be there and he's going to take me out." She narrowly missed the boy's older sibling who was walking alongside him.

Minutes later, Poole Franklin drove up over a sidewalk, prosecutors said, striking the girl, who had bruises, cuts and a concussion. Poole Franklin said she targeted the girl because she thought she was Mexican, was taking over "our homes and our jobs" and "wasn't supposed to be in the country," the filing said.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/woman-who-drove-suv-into-2-children-due-to-their-race-given-25-years-by-federal-judge/ar-AANvTrw?ocid=msedgntp

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Woman Who Drove SUV Into 2 Children Due to Their Race Given 25 Years By Federal Judge (Original Post) Demovictory9 Aug 2021 OP
Couldn't have bluedevil4 Aug 2021 #1
it was a big story when it happened Demovictory9 Aug 2021 #3
It is a sick world. Chuuku Davis Aug 2021 #2
May she never see the outside of a prison again. Sherman A1 Aug 2021 #4
Sounds like Maine Abu El Banat Aug 2021 #5
Exactly. Wonder what she consumes for "news". BlancheSplanchnik Aug 2021 #15
Mo Brooks tweet defending her white power arse and condemning the sentence in 3,2,.. Celerity Aug 2021 #6
Before the hate crimes, Poole Franklin had received a series of breaks from the legal system, Celerity Aug 2021 #7
She's been trying to kill someone her whole life MaryMagdaline Aug 2021 #9
Well, the judge now put her in an even playing field. Baitball Blogger Aug 2021 #35
She sounds mental. Hope she gets treatment in jail. secondwind Aug 2021 #31
Probably mad that someone named her "Poole".. nt Progressive Jones Aug 2021 #53
Too lenient no_hypocrisy Aug 2021 #8
Yep. OldBaldy1701E Aug 2021 #10
Agree Auggie Aug 2021 #20
Far too lenient... Raster Aug 2021 #11
I cannot believe an article like this doesn't even tell the outcome of her victims. I went searching hlthe2b Aug 2021 #12
All the hallmarks of mental illness. OneBro Aug 2021 #13
Sounds like it. GPV Aug 2021 #17
all of the above, AND stopdiggin Aug 2021 #19
Hmmmmm BonnieJW Aug 2021 #29
White people always get the mental illness excuse IronLionZion Aug 2021 #30
Yes... Deuce Aug 2021 #43
That does seem a rather common denominator. LanternWaste Aug 2021 #48
lol JI7 Aug 2021 #33
I'm not so quick to let someone off for being Progressive Jones Aug 2021 #52
I think this Republican/Nazi could use a life term. johnthewoodworker Aug 2021 #14
That's throwing the book at her bucolic_frolic Aug 2021 #16
Oh, She's Going To Have A Fun Time COL Mustard Aug 2021 #18
No matter what accommodations she gets in prison she is in peril. gordianot Aug 2021 #21
I was wondering why such a lenient sentence but then I realized the kids both lived. Ligyron Aug 2021 #22
Basically attempted murder Sympthsical Aug 2021 #23
Good! Nt Ligyron Aug 2021 #27
I'd forgotten about that story. msfiddlestix Aug 2021 #38
This happened a little over a week ago Sympthsical Aug 2021 #40
thanks, I'm overwhelmed and finding it hard to keep track, keep up. msfiddlestix Aug 2021 #46
Too soon for trial Demovictory9 Aug 2021 #45
thanks... so much to track. msfiddlestix Aug 2021 #47
Not nearly Atreus Aug 2021 #24
Should have been life for those crimes. She looks downright pleased with herself in link photo Evolve Dammit Aug 2021 #25
In Louisiana, a friend got 60 years for a robbery of $103 Thunderbeast Aug 2021 #26
Exactly....white justice/black justice cyndensco Aug 2021 #28
+1 dalton99a Aug 2021 #36
White mental illness. Black dangerous criminals. Brown terrorists. IronLionZion Aug 2021 #42
That's maybe half the years in prison she deserved. (nt) Paladin Aug 2021 #32
Good malaise Aug 2021 #34
only 25 years? Likely paroled when? 7 years? less? msfiddlestix Aug 2021 #37
There is no parole in the Federal system. nt prodigitalson Aug 2021 #50
omg. A Meth Freak and she had priors, nearly stabbing to death her boyfriend. msfiddlestix Aug 2021 #39
Poole is only 43 -- she'll live to be released. SYFROYH Aug 2021 #41
She will be in her mid 60s when she gets out.nt prodigitalson Aug 2021 #49
Enjoy the prison menu, you POS Hassler Aug 2021 #44
In other words Johnny2X2X Aug 2021 #51

Celerity

(43,340 posts)
7. Before the hate crimes, Poole Franklin had received a series of breaks from the legal system,
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 06:46 AM
Aug 2021
including after she allegedly stabbed a boyfriend in the chest in 2017 and threatened another with a butcher's knife months later.

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
31. She sounds mental. Hope she gets treatment in jail.
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 09:05 AM
Aug 2021

Too many people like her are walking among us.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
11. Far too lenient...
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 07:07 AM
Aug 2021

...Those two kids lives have been forever changed by this evil woman, and not in a good way.



hlthe2b

(102,236 posts)
12. I cannot believe an article like this doesn't even tell the outcome of her victims. I went searching
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 07:09 AM
Aug 2021

From NYT article: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/19/us/Iowa-woman-hate-racism-attack.html

Shortly after 3:30 p.m. that day, Ms. Poole Franklin was driving on Creston Avenue in Des Moines when she saw two young people who she thought were Middle Eastern or African, according to a federal agreement under which she pleaded guilty to hate crime charges in April. She drove the Jeep “over the curb, onto the sidewalk, toward both minors” and struck one of them, it said. The child, a 12-year-old Black boy, suffered pain, cuts, bruising and swelling, according to the plea agreement.

Then, Ms. Poole Franklin drove away.

Less than an hour later in the city of Clive, just west of Des Moines, Ms. Poole Franklin was driving near a junior high school. There, she saw a 14-year-old girl walking on the sidewalk who she believed to be Mexican. She drove her Jeep “over the curb, over the sidewalk” and struck the child, according to the plea agreement and law enforcement officials. The girl suffered pain, cuts, bruising, swelling and a concussion.


The state of "journalism" today.... Sigh

OneBro

(1,159 posts)
13. All the hallmarks of mental illness.
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 07:11 AM
Aug 2021

The public defender summed it up well, arguing that “she was suffering from "severe pre-existing mental illnesses that were exacerbated by methamphetamine use, numerous extremely difficult life events hitting at nearly the same time, and with some of the worst aspects of the culture acting behind the scenes and further poisoning her mental state."

Our society’s failure to address her mental illness left her vulnerable to radicalization by the right-wing hate machine.

stopdiggin

(11,302 posts)
19. all of the above, AND
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 07:36 AM
Aug 2021

a virulent flat out racist - willing to act out on her hatreds and vile beliefs.

(I have no doubt there is some level of 'illness' here - but let's not forget to point out that it is piled on top of - a very, very toxic stew personal beliefs - that are not at all hallmarks of mental illness.)

IronLionZion

(45,433 posts)
30. White people always get the mental illness excuse
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 09:04 AM
Aug 2021

whether they are murdering whites or children of color.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
48. That does seem a rather common denominator.
Sat Aug 21, 2021, 11:45 AM
Aug 2021

A sentiment consistently applied to one and only one demographic in these instances, while simultaneous denied to all other demographics who engage in the same.

Progressive Jones

(6,011 posts)
52. I'm not so quick to let someone off for being
Sat Aug 21, 2021, 11:58 AM
Aug 2021

a piece of racist trash by blaming it on "mental illness ".
Some people are just low quality garbage, from day one.

bucolic_frolic

(43,146 posts)
16. That's throwing the book at her
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 07:14 AM
Aug 2021

but justice saddens me. Murderers can get less or similar, and insurrectionists are paying $500 fines!

COL Mustard

(5,897 posts)
18. Oh, She's Going To Have A Fun Time
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 07:26 AM
Aug 2021

On the inside. She should count on special sauce in her food at a minimum.

gordianot

(15,237 posts)
21. No matter what accommodations she gets in prison she is in peril.
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 07:42 AM
Aug 2021

She will have to watch her back. Her life of anticipation will be comparable to Derrick Chauvin even under the control of Federal authorities.

Ligyron

(7,632 posts)
22. I was wondering why such a lenient sentence but then I realized the kids both lived.
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 07:49 AM
Aug 2021

Bet she gets out in far less than 20.

If we released all the people sentenced for minor drug offenses, we have room in our prison systems to keep people like her in there longer.

Sympthsical

(9,073 posts)
23. Basically attempted murder
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 07:57 AM
Aug 2021

Recently, there was a road rage incident in the Oakland Hills. After an argument, a 19 year old driver circled round several times trying to buzz and clip the people he had been arguing with and their car. On his last pass, he aimed and clipped a guy. Broke his tail bone I believe.

Alameda County slapped him with an attempted murder charge amongst the other vehicular stuff.

msfiddlestix

(7,281 posts)
38. I'd forgotten about that story.
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 09:40 AM
Aug 2021

Wonder if that trial has happened, with a conviction... or is too recent?

Thunderbeast

(3,406 posts)
26. In Louisiana, a friend got 60 years for a robbery of $103
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 08:36 AM
Aug 2021

No possibility for parole.

Nobody was hurt.

My friend DID NOT commit the crime in the first place

He was exonerated and released after serving nearly eight years.

White justice....Black justice

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/30/magazine/yutico-briley.html#commentsContainer

https://www.npr.org/2021/07/08/1014200241/freeing-an-innocent-man-from-prison

msfiddlestix

(7,281 posts)
39. omg. A Meth Freak and she had priors, nearly stabbing to death her boyfriend.
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 09:52 AM
Aug 2021



The federal sentence will run concurrently with the state punishment but ensure she will be incarcerated for longer, since the federal system does not have parole.


Prosecutors asked for a 27-year sentence in a filing last week, saying Poole Franklin targeted the children because of their race and ethnicity. Both were walking down the street near their schools.

Federal sentencing guidelines had recommended a term of 30 years to life.

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Poole Franklin's public defender asked Rose for nothing longer than a 27-year term. He argued in a filing that she was suffering from "severe pre-existing mental illnesses that were exacerbated by methamphetamine use, numerous extremely difficult life events hitting at nearly the same time, and with some of the worst aspects of the culture acting behind the scenes and further poisoning her mental state."

Before the hate crimes, Poole Franklin had received a series of breaks from the legal system, including after she allegedly stabbed a boyfriend in the chest in 2017 and threatened another with a butcher's knife months later.








SYFROYH

(34,169 posts)
41. Poole is only 43 -- she'll live to be released.
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 10:08 AM
Aug 2021

Unless she continues on her racist quest to kill brown-skinned people in prison.

Then she'll die in prison.

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