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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTrillions of our taxpayer dollars have ended up handing the Taliban world-class military capability.
I'm trying to wrap my head around why we allowed this to happen.
Irish_Dem
(47,051 posts)And deaths mean nothing to them.
honest.abe
(8,678 posts)Take all the military equipment away from the Afghan army prior to our leaving?
DURHAM D
(32,609 posts)bluestarone
(16,939 posts)milestogo
(16,829 posts)honest.abe
(8,678 posts)prior to leaving or as we were leaving. Once leaving there isnt much option to go back in and get that stuff back other than restarting the war. I dont see any alternative that makes any sense.
Baitball Blogger
(46,705 posts)that the equipment was antiquated and parts were hard to come by.
So, which is it? Let's be consistent.
NQAS
(10,749 posts)Welcome comments by knowledgeable veterans.
This equipment must be maintained. This requires skill that taliban might not have. Then theres spare parts, from spare tires to gun parts to tracks to ammunition. Sure, lots is probably available on the black market. China might chip in, but this is likely to be costly in many ways.
And thats apart from operations I hope are under way to destroy some of what remained.
And then theres weaponry that might end up in the hands of whatever opposition groups evolve.
The usual morass.
sarisataka
(18,648 posts)Without anyone to train them, higher tech items will be the first to fall. The desert can be hard on electronics, the users even more.
Simpler items like guns and vehicles can be figured out by people who are mechanically minded. There is a much higher percentage of the population who repairs thongs over there rather than replace as we tend to do. By cannibalizing part from the worst items they will be able to keep some things working for a long time but it will be an ever dwindling inventory.
They are still using Soviet equipment and likely will deal with Russia or China for future needs. The US gear will be around but assuming normal wear and tear will be less than 50% of the inventory in 7-10 years. Much sooner if they get into a full civil war.
harumph
(1,900 posts)RustyWheels
(123 posts)Please watch... And don't let the MSM scare you.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1017675593
samnsara
(17,622 posts)sarisataka
(18,648 posts)To a world class military.
How were we supposed not "allow" this to happen. Send our couple thousand troops around the country to collect all of the equipment? Launch air strikes against the Afghan army to destroy it before it could be captured? (That option is still available BTW)
BannonsLiver
(16,384 posts)Most people dont know what constitutes an advanced military.
bucolic_frolic
(43,161 posts)You have to arm the other side to have a war. No war, no profits. No profits, the 1% are slipping. This cannot be allowed to happen.
HAB911
(8,891 posts)we pay, the military industrial complex and our enemies make out like bandits. we do it over and over and over again
LuvLoogie
(7,003 posts)if you know how and if you have the parts.
Any helicopters or tanks they manage to get up into the air or rolling can be disabled by a drone.
BannonsLiver
(16,384 posts)Not really. They dont have any advanced fighters, attack helicopters, strategic bombers, subs, aircraft carriers, cruisers, or tanks.
milestogo
(16,829 posts)BannonsLiver
(16,384 posts)Accuracy is important.