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Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 04:50 PM Aug 2021

[Science Daily] How fructose in the diet contributes to obesity

I've always suspected high fructure corn syrup is a major contributor to our obesity epidemic: That stuff's in everything. When you look back at pictures from, say 1950-1980 doesn't it strike you how thin everybody was back then? At least compared to today? As I recall we didn't have to do a whole lot of hard work to stay thin either; we just were. Read on...

Eating fructose appears to alter cells in the digestive tract in a way that enables it to take in more nutrients, according to a preclinical study from investigators at Weill Cornell Medicine and NewYork-Presbyterian. These changes could help to explain the well-known link between rising fructose consumption around the world and increased rates of obesity and certain cancers.

The research, published August 18 in Nature, focused on the effect of a high-fructose diet on villi, the thin, hairlike structures that line the inside of the small intestine. Villi expand the surface area of the gut and help the body to absorb nutrients, including dietary fats, from food as it passes through the digestive tract. The study found that mice that were fed diets that included fructose had villi that were 25 percent to 40 percent longer than those of mice that were not fed fructose. Additionally, the increase in villus length was associated with increased nutrient absorption, weight gain and fat accumulation in the animals.

"Fructose is structurally different from other sugars like glucose, and it gets metabolized differently," said senior author Dr. Marcus DaSilva Goncalves, the Ralph L. Nachman Research Scholar, an assistant professor of medicine in the Division of Endocrinology, Diabetes and Metabolism and an endocrinologist at NewYork-Presbyterian/Weill Cornell Medical Center. "Our research has found that fructose's primary metabolite promotes the elongation of villi and supports intestinal tumor growth."

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/08/210818135218.htm
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[Science Daily] How fructose in the diet contributes to obesity (Original Post) Ron Obvious Aug 2021 OP
I wonder if it's reversible? This is amazing. live love laugh Aug 2021 #1
At the molecular level, I don't know for sure. Aristus Aug 2021 #19
I likewise am astonished at how many soft drinks most people drink. PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2021 #22
The article did get one thing wrong, fortunately: Aristus Aug 2021 #24
It's Incredible ProfessorGAC Aug 2021 #27
Hard to say which is worse, sugar or chemical moonscape Aug 2021 #33
I remember when I was growing up, thinking about all those people who were led down the Baitball Blogger Aug 2021 #2
Yeah, remember how "fat" used to be the enemy? Ron Obvious Aug 2021 #3
Keto goes a step farther and includes multigraincracker Aug 2021 #9
Protein should be the priority, especially as you get older. Plus it's eXtremely satiating, maintain Dream Girl Aug 2021 #12
Carbs are my downfall. TxGuitar Aug 2021 #20
Navigating nutrition can be tough. I was low-carb/keto moonscape Aug 2021 #34
Yep, they made fat the big enemy. GoCubsGo Aug 2021 #5
THIS malaise Aug 2021 #7
It was false data from an Ancel Keys moonscape Aug 2021 #36
don't touch the stuff anymore, or regular sugar either much as possible nt msongs Aug 2021 #4
Regular sugar, sucrose, is split into its constituent glucose and fructose components in the gut Klaralven Aug 2021 #11
Does it matter if it's natural fructose in fruit? scrabblequeen40 Aug 2021 #6
I've no expertise in this area Ron Obvious Aug 2021 #10
The fiber contained in the fruit Revanchist Aug 2021 #17
Makes sense to me. [n/t] Ron Obvious Aug 2021 #18
The article includes fructose from fruit iemanja Aug 2021 #15
I've studied this and if you eat one orange you're getting the fructose from that orange. If you abqtommy Aug 2021 #21
True: The fiber in an orange goes a long way toward mitigating the rate at which you lindysalsagal Aug 2021 #28
I'll put it this way. Elessar Zappa Aug 2021 #30
Eating whole fruit is better than juices, dried fruit, or processed fruit products IronLionZion Aug 2021 #37
High glycemic carbs are huge culprits. ananda Aug 2021 #8
I make a point of avoiding that stuff... 2naSalit Aug 2021 #13
I agree that the substitutes are bad, possibly worse than the real thing. PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2021 #23
I'm surprise they include the fructose in fruit iemanja Aug 2021 #14
I just need to stop procrastinating and go keto Revanchist Aug 2021 #16
I'm going to say no to that. PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2021 #25
My cholesterol was cut in half iemanja Aug 2021 #38
I've done it. I prefer to live that way. But all the saturated fats aren't good for your heart, so, lindysalsagal Aug 2021 #26
When I made my living farming about half our acreage was in corn. jaxexpat Aug 2021 #29
We eliminated HFCS from our diet quite a few years ago mcar Aug 2021 #31
Good article and completely agree. Thanks for posting. c-rational Aug 2021 #32
Observing the obesity is scary. Wheelchairs, people hanging on grocery carts; it's everywhere. Evolve Dammit Aug 2021 #35

Aristus

(66,285 posts)
19. At the molecular level, I don't know for sure.
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 05:47 PM
Aug 2021

But from a phenotypical standpoint, it is. I have had so many obese patients come to me for treatment, and in the course of taking their patient history, I find out they're drinking, like, six sodas a day, or whatever. Or Gatorade and Powerade, which they think are health drinks instead of the sugar-delivery mediums they are.

I tell them before I do anything else, order expensive tests or even more expensive imagery, just knock off whichever beverage you are drinking with the high fructose corn syrup. They will come in, sometimes six weeks or so later, reporting substantial weight loss, more energy, earlier satiety when eating, and generally improved well-being.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,812 posts)
22. I likewise am astonished at how many soft drinks most people drink.
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 06:07 PM
Aug 2021

When I'm in the grocery store other people will have several of those huge boxes of various sodas. Why?

I gave up soft drinks about thirty years ago when I realized my younger son was consuming too many, even though he was thin. Never overweight. But I knew the sodas were replacing healthier foods, so I simply stopped buying them. For several years I'd often get one when eating out, especially fast food, and then I stopped that entirely. Nowadays I'll get a soft drink when on a long driving trip, so I have fewer than half a dozen in a whole year.

My younger brother was in the habit of drinking two of the large bottles of soda -- I think they are two liters? -- a day, and somehow thought that's what everyone did. Little surprise he developed diabetes.

Aristus

(66,285 posts)
24. The article did get one thing wrong, fortunately:
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 06:10 PM
Aug 2021

Consumption of high-fructose corn syrup in this country is actually going down, not up. It peaked in 2010, and has been decreasing, I hope because medical providers like me are informing their patients how bad this stuff is for them.

ProfessorGAC

(64,851 posts)
27. It's Incredible
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 06:15 PM
Aug 2021

I see the same at the supermarket.
We don't drink pop either. Maybe 2 liters of rootbeer per year for black cows.
I know a guy who goes through 2 & 1/2 cases of Diet Pepsi per week. More than 8 a day.
At least, that version doesn't have sugar.
If someone brought a case to our house it'd last over 10 years.

Baitball Blogger

(46,682 posts)
2. I remember when I was growing up, thinking about all those people who were led down the
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 04:56 PM
Aug 2021

tobacco habit that shortened their life, and wondering if there was something out there that would do the same to my generation. I had to make it into the late forties before I realized fructose corn syrup was our tobacco.

Medical community was no help. Even up to the nineties they were giving bad advice to diabetics, recommending high carb diets. That just added to the problem.

 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
3. Yeah, remember how "fat" used to be the enemy?
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 05:00 PM
Aug 2021

I think Atkins may have had this right at least: eating fat at least makes you feel full and you stop eating, but this stuff doesn't lead to feeling sated and you eat more of everything.

 

Dream Girl

(5,111 posts)
12. Protein should be the priority, especially as you get older. Plus it's eXtremely satiating, maintain
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 05:18 PM
Aug 2021

And builds muscle. I limit carbs to 50 g. Mostly vegetables, berries every now and then. I try to get 100 - 120 g. of protein per day. Chicken, fish, sardines, salmon before, lamb,eggs. But some days have 10. My numbers have never been better. I was tethering on prediabetes for years. No any more. My livers is great too. Was inching toward fatty liver. Added bonus - my weight is down 40 lbs over the past 18 months and it’s been effortless. I’m never hungry or deprived. If I crave something junky like pizza, cookies, ice cream, cheesecake,I make a keto version and they are usually quite tasty because they are full fat. Knowing I can have these treats makes it so easy. I don’t make tarts as often as I used to. I don’t really have cravings any more.

TxGuitar

(4,177 posts)
20. Carbs are my downfall.
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 05:58 PM
Aug 2021

I average about 100 grams of protein a day but don't do a good job of keeping track of my carbs. I have days where I feel I ate right, exercised and all and the next day I'm up a half pound or a pound. Gotta keep better track of my intake I guess.

moonscape

(4,673 posts)
34. Navigating nutrition can be tough. I was low-carb/keto
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 07:48 PM
Aug 2021

for years then hit with kidney stones. Urologist said cut back on protein. Okaaay ... low carb, low protein .. I’ll swig coconut oil!

GoCubsGo

(32,074 posts)
5. Yep, they made fat the big enemy.
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 05:04 PM
Aug 2021

In their defense, they were given false data by the sugar industry, who, for decades, stifled research showing that it isn't "Fat makes you fat." It's their product, which was dumped into every fat-free product they told us to gag down to prevent obesity-related diseases. And, we wondered why we were still fat... High fructose corn syrup is just the worst culprit, but refined carbs, in general, are the issue.

moonscape

(4,673 posts)
36. It was false data from an Ancel Keys
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 07:55 PM
Aug 2021

study where he left out countries that didn’t conform to his hypothesis about fat. McGovern got on the bandwagon and while I voted for him for President, I blame him for the ‘70’s dietary goals that put it all in motion. The bad part of his legacy.

 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
11. Regular sugar, sucrose, is split into its constituent glucose and fructose components in the gut
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 05:15 PM
Aug 2021

scrabblequeen40

(334 posts)
6. Does it matter if it's natural fructose in fruit?
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 05:05 PM
Aug 2021

One of the things that keeps nagging at me is the availability of fruit in American supermarkets year-round. These fruits are bred to be bigger and sweeter -- the explosion of modern apple varieties, for example.

Not only are we encouraged by nutritionists to eat fruit as a healthier snack alternative, we use fruit in meals - in salads, dried up or cut-up fresh; in compotes and sauces, in fruit juices and smoothies...

Are we just asking for it?

 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
10. I've no expertise in this area
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 05:12 PM
Aug 2021

But I understand the rule of thumb is: fruit is good, but fruit juice should be avoided.

iemanja

(53,012 posts)
15. The article includes fructose from fruit
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 05:32 PM
Aug 2021

which is a head-scratcher to me. It may be about the quantity of fruit one consumes.

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
21. I've studied this and if you eat one orange you're getting the fructose from that orange. If you
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 06:00 PM
Aug 2021

drink a large tumbler of orange juice you're getting the fructose from many oranges and that's not
healthy for anybody but especially those of us prone to diabetes. It's good to be informed so we can
make the best decisions for ourselves.

lindysalsagal

(20,581 posts)
28. True: The fiber in an orange goes a long way toward mitigating the rate at which you
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 06:16 PM
Aug 2021

metabolize the sugars. It also lets you feel fuller and wait longer to eat afterwards. Fruit juice just encourages you to keep eating.

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
37. Eating whole fruit is better than juices, dried fruit, or processed fruit products
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 08:43 PM
Aug 2021

Compotes and sauces would have added sugar. I have a sweet tooth, but have noticed good results from cutting back on added sugar.

Normal people don't have to avoid sweet fruits like bananas or mangos like the Keto folks do. It's good in smoothies if you use cut up fresh fruit.

ananda

(28,834 posts)
8. High glycemic carbs are huge culprits.
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 05:07 PM
Aug 2021

I always try to balance protein, low glycemic carbs,
and fat with every meal.

I also eat all organic.

2naSalit

(86,323 posts)
13. I make a point of avoiding that stuff...
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 05:25 PM
Aug 2021

And anything in it. I like plain old sugar, all substitutes are worse for you than the real thing, you just have to use it on moderation, can't have it in everything you eat.

iemanja

(53,012 posts)
14. I'm surprise they include the fructose in fruit
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 05:31 PM
Aug 2021

Since most doctors and dieticians recommend you eat a couple of servings of fruit a day.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,812 posts)
25. I'm going to say no to that.
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 06:10 PM
Aug 2021

The same about going vegetarian or vegan.

We evolved as omnivores, eating a wide variety of things. Stick to that, just be moderate about everything, and you should be fine.

lindysalsagal

(20,581 posts)
26. I've done it. I prefer to live that way. But all the saturated fats aren't good for your heart, so,
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 06:12 PM
Aug 2021

tread carefully. I can manage without any flour or sugar, and I always read labels for high fructose. I also avoid white starches, with the occasional small non-fat popcorn. There are almond flour crackers and such nowadays, so, that makes life easier.

BTW-Ever look at the sugar content in milk? Yowza.

jaxexpat

(6,799 posts)
29. When I made my living farming about half our acreage was in corn.
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 07:12 PM
Aug 2021

That was back in the 80's. Corn and soybeans (with the occasional double-crop of wheat/soybeans) were the land usage template in our area, the southern tier of the mid-west. I was, even then, pretty certain that my livelihood was predicated on the general delinquency of the planet. Oh, chemistry, where is thy come-uppence?

Also raised LOTS of tobacco. Hey, the market said it was okay. I know, already.

Evolve Dammit

(16,697 posts)
35. Observing the obesity is scary. Wheelchairs, people hanging on grocery carts; it's everywhere.
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 07:50 PM
Aug 2021

We have a national obesity epidemic and I'm sure the pandemic hasn't helped with inactivity and anxiety-related eating disorders. Between that and depression, we have a bonafide health care crisis, on top of everything else. Doesn't get much press.

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