It seems to me that the unvaccinated healthcare workers

[TNNurse]

should be the ones to take care of the unvaccinated patients.

The vaccinated workers can take care of the others.

It seems reasonable to me.

[lark]

1. Actually, I don't think unvaccinated nurses should have a job - period.

Once the mRNA vaccines are approved under regular order, this MUST change, and all healthcare workers should be required to be vaccinated unless it poses a verifiable risk to their health - not just their rw freedumb!

[TNNurse]

4. Oh, I agree, but they are so this seemed to be a plan.

[Sherman A1]

5. Precisely

And I hope that the health care institutions are moving in that direction.

[lark]

40. I heard today that the Pfizer vaccine is supposed to get regular approval tomorrow.

Hopefully, that will satisfy a lot of legal eagles who have so far been recommending not requiring it due to non-regular (emergency) authorization.

[PJMcK]

2. That's a good plan

Here's what I can't comprehend: A healthcare worker who isn't vaccinated. WTF?! Aren't these people "professionals?"

It's mind-boggling to me that anyone would work with sick people without protecting themselves.

[mucifer]

6. It's really disturbing. Doctors can't convince them. These nurses think they know more than the

doctors they work under.

It's rare that any doctors aren't vaccinated.

I'm stressing out now with the knowledge that a big chunk of our nursing staff could leave when our company decides to mandate the vaccine. Our docs have been trying so hard to convince the staff to vaccinate. But, lots of nurses believe they have the secret privileged knowledge about covid and the vaccines.

If we mandate the vaccine in our organization too soon, other similar organizations could take our nurses who would quit. So I see why our agency hasn't mandated the vaccine.

However, it's only a matter of time. I am terrified about what will happen when Pfizer is fully approved. Will my coworkers jump ship? If so what will happen to our patients.

[Orrex]

16. Tangential, but...

When Pfizer (and the rest) are FDA approved, antivax assholes will claim that the approval was the result of political pressure to make Biden look good, and the antivaxers will insist that they need independent verification of the FDA’s findings before they’ll get the vaccine.

If a mandate goes into effect, they will absolutely bring dozens of lawsuits to tie up the courts with bullshit, and some sympathetic judge will order the mandate suspended until all the cases are decided.

Meanwhile thousands upon thousands will die, but they’ll totally have “owned the libs.”

[forthemiddle]

18. That is happening all over

Especially nursing homes that rely on Nurses Aides to run the facilities.
Unfortunately, in this Country, Nursing homes are staffed with lower income, often minority men and women that are paid crap wages. Those also happen to be the most likely to be vaccine hesitant.
I have a lot of contacts with these facilities through my job, and I can tell you it is happening as we speak. As more and more places are mandating the vaccines, the more workers are realizing that there crappy wages can be made somewhere else. Somewhere that the vaccines aren’t mandated. Hell, in many small towns (which rely on Medicaid to finance the facilities), many of these workers can make as much, or more at a convenience store.

[mucifer]

20. Honestly sometimes I feel like our situation is hopeless

[forthemiddle]

21. Yes it may be

But I also feel that “This too shall pass”.
Im not sure yet how, but I have faith that it will!
All I can do now, is keep myself as safe as possible.

[GB_RN]

34. "This Too Shall Pass..."

Yeah, maybe. After all the dead enders, maskholes, antivaxxxers and spreadnecks have died from COVID. Along with the countless innocent victims they take with them.

[niyad]

7. I just posted about one of them, who whines that we are trying to kill them. She is ICU,

and it makes me sick to think she is around patients.

[Wingus Dingus]

27. Every day, nurses face the possibility of needle sticks, picking up

a superbug, etc. I had both happen to me. A needle stick from a patient with Hepatitis C, into my hand at the base of my thumb when I was putting a used insulin syringe into the sharps box. Had to go through a whole protocol for that. I was lucky it was a tiny insulin needle and it didn't go in very far. Also picked up some kind of horrific bacteria on my stethoscope earpiece that created an infection and cellulitis that spread across my face and down my neck, I was a pretty sick (and hideous-looking) pup and needed serious antibiotics. This vaccine is NOTHING compared to the health dangers that medical workers routinely face, they're just weirdly fixated on it.

[niyad]

31. I honestly do not know how all of you in healthcare do it. Even before this pandemic,

I knew that the dangers and risks you faced every day were horrific. I cannot even begin to imagine what it is like now.

[Wingus Dingus]

33. I only did it for a few years, I decided for other reasons

that it was not the job for me. But this pandemic, and the idiocy surrounding it, would have definitely made me quit if I hadn't left the field already. I'm not enough of a people-person to deal with that level of stupid.

[lostnfound]

8. Has no one on DU SEEN the disinformation videos??

It’s depressing but I have one friend and one relative who have been captured by a bunch of overlapping videos that show phD or MD persons who combine distorted but convincing technical language with stories of a corrupted FDA owned by big pharma who is squelching any information about people dying of heart attacks or strokes days after getting the vaccine.

These two people are far on opposite sides politically — one a trump supporter and the other more or less a socialist — but the videos they watch share about half of the same comtent.

We are surrounded by overlapping brainwashed cults. The silos of social media are exposing them to endless streams of videos custom made to appeal to and reinforce their particular mix of beliefs.

It’s so upsetting but I see no actions or counter-messaging that will break up the stranglehold this disinformation has on American society—or on my friend.

[OneGrassRoot]

12. "We are surrounded by overlapping brainwashed cults."

Yes, we are. The firehose of disinformation not available 24/7 in times past make this feel like an impossible situation.

I honestly don't see how to live with and around QAnon/Trump cult types - not safely and not without losing integrity by ignoring or placating their bullshit. I wish they would leave and create that floating libertarian utopia Peter Thiel envisioned years ago. Though I fear what they would do to make our oceans even more polluted.

[lostnfound]

22. It's making me crazy and it's infuriating

The anti-Democratic one is a close family member. It’s depressing that he sucks up so much of the hatred circulating in the trump cult — we had really bonded when he had a health problem a few years ago. He seems incapable of connecting his hatred of liberals with the fact that his family members are democrats.

The far left one is hurting herself with stress over thinking she needs to figure it all out before she takes action to get the shot. Deep distrust of institutions makes her susceptible to propaganda that questions or tears down the institutions.

[niyad]

37. I have not seen, nor will I. But I have certainly heard about them. My comment is, "how do

you KNOW that the person has those credentials? Have you looked her/him up? Does the picture match a professional profile? Who is paying this person? You keep saying you do your research. Well. That is pretty basic research. Get back to me when you have done it."

[Wingus Dingus]

25. Not just to protect themselves, they have a duty to their patients to NOT spread

infectious disease.

[haele]

39. Religion. They're doing God's work, so God will protect them.

Most anti-vaxx health care workers have a strong streak of Gawdspell put on them.

A few are contrarians. Others are just authoritarian followers who got into health care because it's supposed to be a "good job" and it is possible to get paid better than retail.

Haele

[GPV]

3. Out in the tents

[zuul]

19. Yep. Why should vaccinated people have to

receive treatment in a tent? Send the unvaccinated, selfish assholes outside.

[fescuerescue]

9. Well they are actually.

The unvaxxed nurses and doctors treat both the vexed and unvaxxed alike.

[Maggiemayhem]

10. I don't know if the techs who draw my blood monthly

or the nurses of the doctors who see me are vaccinated. I saw my cardiologist in May in person and he talked to every patient about vaccines. I see my internist on Monday and he replaced my longtime doctor, so I don’t know. This big practice receives federal funding so I don’t think there should be any doubt about their status.The patient should not have to worry about their providers being vaccinated. The loudmouth antivaxxers have too much power.

[Farmer-Rick]

13. Here in the heart of idiot country, I've cancelled

medical appointments because I don't trust the nurses and other staff to get themselves vaccinated. Plus Covid-19 is everywhere again and of course no one wears masks and everyone who isn't sick or in the hospital is acting like there is no pandemic.

So, I am just putting off appointments until there is a decline in number of deaths. We are up to death levels about equal to last July and it's still killing those of us who are over 60 even in breakthrough cases.

I don't understand why a nurse would study to become a nurse if they don't believe in science? Even the Catholic Nuns I knew who worked in hospitals believed in the germ theory.

[Jilly_in_VA]

14. I don't think they should be working ANYWHERE

but if they are, out in the tents with the unvaxxed. Period. The end.

[3Hotdogs]

17. Nah. Tattoo NV on their forehead and they work only with not vaccinated patients.

Many of those types of people like tattoos. They are also proud of not being sheeple. So there should be no resistance to my plan.

With a large tatt on them, others will be warned away.

[FakeNoose]

24. What if they change their minds and get the vaccine? A tattoo is permanent

I think you're on the right track, but tattoos aren't the answer.

[I_UndergroundPanther]

28. I like tattoos

And I got fully vaxxed in the beginning of April. I'm on the left.

Tattoos are not a right wing trait.

However putting tattoos on unvaxxed people I could go with that.

[mwooldri]

15. The good news is that more hospital groups are mandating the vaccine.

One of my in-laws was resistant to taking the vaccine, stating she "didn't trust the government". Apparently her desire to keep her job was more important, and therefore she's now fully vaccinated. She works food service in the hospital. My wife in the lab though - wanted first in line.

As an aside my youngest son will be getting an interesting birthday present - his first Covid vaccine on his 12th birthday.

There are cases for exceptions - one guy got Covid.... Then later on took the first dose of a vaccine and got a horrible reaction to it. That kind of exception I support. I gotten to the point that if you're eligible for the vaccine (and have no medical reason not to take it) and choose not to take it then you're a fucking idiot. I want to say that on Faceplant but that will alienate some people.

[Historic NY]

23. I hear it from my niece at her VA in Florida,

co-worker unvaccinated came down with Covid-19, he won't need that vaccination anymore. Her observation the VA isn't cracking down, they are short-staffed, pretty much the entire place is Covid-19 ever space or floor have been made into wards for it. The unvaccinated work without the shot. Apparently, the now patient was treated with a number of regimes, but to no avail.

[marieo1]

26. Great Idea

This is just plain ole good common sense, that's exactly why they will never do it.

[Rebl2]

29. BINGO!

[Traildogbob]

30. I hear you

TNNnurse. My daughter is NCnurse. So sorry you have to deal with coworkers like that. Read here, nurses at western US hospitals are told to NOT wear scrubs from vehicle into the hospitals or back to their cars. They are being attacked by the trump zombies. Maybe they just realize smart people like nurses, (most) have tastier brains. Stay safe TNNnurse, my daughter graduated UT and is a huge Football fan. The “school parents” anti mask/vax lunitics make me not like the Vols very much. You gotta be raging. Hard to comprehend no Vax nurses.

[TNNurse]

38. Just to clarify, my husband and I both retired from the same hospital

6 years ago. We are grateful every day that we retired when we did. We just feel for and worry about those still working.

[lambchopp59]

32. I'm on sabbatical--- Xray/CT tech with minor immunocompromise. I'm vaxxed but wary

I've received missiles from colleagues that there's quite an uproar at two past facilities now requiring vaccinations.
(oh, do I know the ilk they're referring to--- Trumpers all)
While I wholeheartedly agree, I feel no empathy for caregivers who have dug in their heels about this anti-scientific crap, endangering patients and staff alike. Seems entirely hypocritical to me. These anti-science dipwads can go find some ignorant place to work. It will make me far more comfortable once I return to work.
I suffered through the COVID early in the pandemic before any vaxx was available and before we even knew what it was made me sick. I wouldn't wish such fate on the most idiotic "enemy".

[littlemissmartypants]

35. Sure, but do we really want them sequestered with a group of like minded idiots

Where they can plot and create schemes for how they are going to exert their beliefs on us? Sure it will supposedly, keep the virus in one place but it also disallows us the opportunity to create cracks in their disordered thinking.



❤

[live love laugh]

36. Seems to me that they should be given remedial education. nt