Am I evil to make Darwin jokes about dead anti-vaxxers?

[greenman3610]

just asking

[RKP5637]

1. No! n/t

[BlueWavePsych]

12. Ditto

[Doodley]

2. No. What is evil is those who are responsible for a thousand a day dying.

[East-A-Squared]

3. Nope!

[Sympthsical]

4. I think people who yearn for the deaths of others are losing their humanity

Partisanship has gotten weird.

But I recently saw a thread celebrating the death of an 18 year old (from a dumb accident - not from Covid), so I don't know where that puts us.

Social media are making us an uglier people.

[Rorey]

8. But of course there's a difference

I do feel guilty when I actually "yearn" for someone's demise. But when they do something stupid, and then die because of it, I don't feel guilty about pointing out their stupidity.

[Sympthsical]

10. But we don't do it for other things that often

If a smoker dies of lung cancer, most people think, "That's a horrible way to go." We don't laugh and high five about it.

If an obese person dies of hypertension or any of the other countless maladies associated with it, we don't hop on message boards discussing how much they deserved it and how happy we are to see them gone for their ignorance and refusal to be healthy.

I just don't see all this as much different.

It's all just very sad. I wish people would've made different choices.

We do this with Covid because we have decided it's socially and politically acceptable to be this callous about it.

Now make threads of fat people dying. See how that one goes.

They're still choices people make. They still cost us money in the health care system. We still have people advocating for it (healthy at any size!). But we don't do that. When someone makes poor choices and dies, we feel sad about it. Well, most of us do, most of the time. If we're empathetic humans.

This nastiness is born of pure politics. Mainly, I think, because the unvaxxed are seen as mostly on the Right. They're not, but that's the Narrative. So it's ok to be nasty about it and them. There are other populations, Democratic demographic populations, that are also way undervaxxed.

Where are those threads of celebration and jokes?

Exactly. If you wouldn't behave that way towards your friends and family, don't do it at all. And if you do behave that way with your friends, I don't want to be yours.

[Phoenix61]

24. The difference is the smoker isn't taking anyone

else out with them. Neither is the person who doesn’t monitor their blood pressure or sugar. The anti-vaxers have chosen to be willfully ignorant and their ignorance isn’t just a threat to their life, it’s a threat to everyone they come in contact with. Whatever celebratory note people take when hearing of their demise is due to having outlived someone who seemed hell bent to kill themselves and as many others as possible. So yeah, when I hear that someone has died of terminal stupidity I may very well crack a joke about it.

[Aristus]

32. This is untrue, I'm afraid. Smokers do take people with them.

According to the CDC, since 1964, about 2.5 million people have died from health problems related to the exposure to and inhalation of second-hand smoke.

[Rorey]

31. I, personally, have never laughed about deaths

I've never seen posts of anyone laughing or "high-fiving" about deaths, so I guess I just missed those posts. Pointing out their stupidity is a far cry from laughing or celebrating.

I feel like you're directing your post at me because it was in response to my post, but I've done none of the things you mentioned.

Frankly, I don't think my little post warranted such a response, but if it makes you feel better to unload all that on me, go for it.

[LanternWaste]

35. What objective effect on the deceased do jokes or celebration or sorrow result in?

If on the other hand, the only concern is how it advertises the person laughing at the expense of the dead, does self-righteous sanctimony at the expense of those laughing also advertise something just as negative?

Not that anyone would ever be guilty of that. Just a hypothetical, is all.

[Scrivener7]

9. I agree. But I find myself not reacting to these anti-vax stories other than with a mental shrug of

"Well, yes. That will happen."

I don't like that I feel this way, but I do.

At this point, my hope is that this wave goes hard and fast and at the end of it everyone is either vaccinated, immune or dead. Because that's the only way this ends.

[Sympthsical]

11. I always say the same thing

"Well, they made their choices."

It's all you can really say.

But a death is never an opportunity of high fun for me. Unless it's someone like Hitler. But not the asshole neighbor down the street with kids and a family.

[Rorey]

5. It's actually implied consent

And they don't mind. They're, y'know, dead.

[wryter2000]

17. A lot of them say stupid stuff like that

"Everyone has to die. If it's my time to go, I go. I'm not going to live my life in fear."

I just saw a clip where a reporter asked the guy, "Do you wear seat belts?" The guy said he did.

[Hugh_Lebowski]

6. The ones out there actively telling people not to vax or wear masks?

RE: those people, I say 'Hell no'!

But then again ... I've been known to be an unrepentant dick sometimes

[Talitha]

7. Not at all. They wrote the joke themselves, you're just telling it.

[Blue Owl]

13. I've always enjoyed a bit of black humor

[roamer65]

14. I think it's ok to satirize their hypocrisy.

They won’t trust a vaccine that is now administered in the millions of doses, but now run to hospitals demanding care involving far more experimental drugs and treatments.

It’s just stupid and needs to be satirized and lampooned.

[StopTheNeoCons]

15. No

[Tetrachloride]

16. When anti-vaxxers are cavalier about blue people,

we can use the broad range of our linguistic abilities.

[Steelrolled]

18. From what I have seen you can make fun of dying people

if they are on the other side.

[Tracer]

19. Sometimes.

The only deaths I would make a joke about are the people who cheered on the anti-vaxxers, refused the vaccine him/her self, lay in the hospital whining about the unfairness of it all, or begged for the vaccine just before his/her intubation.

[flying_wahini]

20. Anti Vaxers have every right to die of Covid, if they want to. They don't have to spread it, tho.

If I was an anti Vaxer I would Be Demanding everyone wears a mask. Right?

It’s a clue to what they Really believe.

[Binkie The Clown]

21. Natural selection is what it is. There's nothing evil in pointing that out. nt

[Turbineguy]

22. If they were not misinformed and brainwashed

they would most likely get vaccinated.

They are not without blame but those who keep them in this state are responsible.

[Initech]

27. I still say Facebook is largely responsible for this.

I'd love to see Mark Zuckerberg dragged before a Senate committee and/or The Hague to explain this.

[SidDithers]

23. Fuck no...nt

Sid

[Initech]

25. If they voluntarily poison themselves with invermectin and hydroxychloroquine...

I say anything is on the table!

[SYFROYH]

26. A lot of people make poor health decisions to lead to a shortern life.

I'm not making any jokes about COVID victims whether vaxxed or not.

[Kaleva]

29. I'm vaccinated but make poor health choices which will probably shorten my life.

My diet needs improvement and I need to lose 50 or so pounds for starters.

[Kaleva]

28. As long as you say nothing about their weight and so on, you'll be fine.

[Midnight Writer]

30. The only value in this is hoping that people will learn from this and change their behavior.

Ridicule may work.

Rational presentation of logic will not.

Appeals to their humanity will not.

[ellie]

33. No

I am just flabbergasted at these people and their stupidity. Do they really think COVID is a hoax? WHAT IN THE ACTUAL FUCK? To go through life and think the news is lying to you is just beyond belief. I am vaccinated and I still wear a mask.

[Major Nikon]

34. ...

[Iggo]

36. Yeah, probably.

Just answering.

[GusBob]

37. Somone here today

Said vaxxed folks dying was anecdotal and posted on rofl emoticon. Like it is funny

Just after I found out an acquaintance died this morning

That I found to be in poor taste