Sat Aug 21, 2021, 05:24 PM
SharonClark (8,667 posts)
Staunch atheists show higher morals than the proudly pious, from the pandemic to climate change
I like this article....
Two recent events have shed an illuminating light on who is and who isn't moral in today's world. whole article: https://www.salon.com/2021/08/21/staunch-atheists-show-higher-morals-than-the-proudly-pious-from-the-pandemic-to-climate-change/
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SharonClark | Aug 2021 | OP |
genxlib | Aug 2021 | #1 | |
Poiuyt | Aug 2021 | #2 | |
JanMichael | Aug 2021 | #3 | |
wryter2000 | Aug 2021 | #5 | |
wryter2000 | Aug 2021 | #4 | |
I_UndergroundPanther | Aug 2021 | #6 | |
Celerity | Aug 2021 | #7 | |
smirkymonkey | Aug 2021 | #8 | |
Lonestarblue | Aug 2021 | #9 |
Response to SharonClark (Original post)
Sat Aug 21, 2021, 05:30 PM
genxlib (4,841 posts)
1. There is an old saying
That character is what you do when no one is looking
My corollary to that is that morality is what you do when God isn't watching. |
Response to SharonClark (Original post)
Sat Aug 21, 2021, 05:44 PM
JanMichael (23,822 posts)
3. About 20/21 years ago I had a fairly liberal religious person tell me that same thing.
On an Athiest board too. The hyper religious (and very conservative) people were truly obnoxious and uncaring about poverty, the environment, living wages, healthcare, etcetera. I was happy to go post for post with them and eventually got called more moral and decent than the pious assholes. In real time. It was kind of nice to hear that.
Now I am older and need to nap more. No more arguing over religion on defunct boards... |
Response to JanMichael (Reply #3)
Sat Aug 21, 2021, 06:13 PM
wryter2000 (43,117 posts)
5. Even Jesus is quoted as calling bible thumpers "hypocrites."
We have no idea that anyone named Jesus of Nazareth said anything like that. And the passage has been translated and rewritten many times by regular people. But I can tell you most Episcopalians agree.
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Response to SharonClark (Original post)
Sat Aug 21, 2021, 06:10 PM
wryter2000 (43,117 posts)
4. My personal theory of moral development
Is it starts to develop at a very early age when we learn not to hit and to share. After a while, that morphs into caring about other people. It could be partly genetic. I've seen preverbal infants respond to the crying of other infants with obvious concern on their faces.
After we've developed empathy, we attach "reasons" for it. That's when we learn rules that we then consider the basis of our morality. Of course, moral development continues, but I think moral behavior is only tentatively attached to religion or philosophy or other moral precepts. I do not have data to prove this, of course, and I'll be damned if I'll go back to school to write another dissertation. |
Response to SharonClark (Original post)
Sat Aug 21, 2021, 06:15 PM
I_UndergroundPanther (10,232 posts)
6. About fucking time
Someone noticed this fact.
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Response to SharonClark (Original post)
Sat Aug 21, 2021, 06:17 PM
Celerity (28,862 posts)
7. K & R for visibility
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Response to SharonClark (Original post)
Sat Aug 21, 2021, 07:24 PM
smirkymonkey (63,134 posts)
8. K&R
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Response to SharonClark (Original post)
Sat Aug 21, 2021, 07:37 PM
Lonestarblue (5,449 posts)
9. My theory is that the world would be better off without religion.
Organized religion, especially. Too many people seem to focus on being the religion police, monitoring other people’s morals while doing any immoral act they choose.
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