AOC states it simply. Thank you, AOC.

[Kath2]

Abortion bans aren’t just about controlling women’s bodies.

They’re about controlling women’s sexuality. Owning women.

From limiting birth control to banning comprehensive sex ed, US religious fundamentalists are working hard to outlaw sex that falls outside their theology.

- AOC

[ck4829]

1. K&R

[markie]

2. been saying that

for years.... good to hear it from her

[leftieNanner]

3. Exactly!

And to think some of that theology is coming in the form of Josh Duggar.

[Demobrat]

4. IMO theology has nothing to do with it.

It’s about punishing women for having sex with men who are not them.

[ShazzieB]

6. But the reasons for wanting to punish women often stem from theology.

Or are least theology is often used as an excuse. Got to punish those brazen hussies for tempting the menz to sin, you know?

[Demobrat]

15. Well sure it's used as an excuse.

Not disputing that. Theology is used as an excuse for a lot of things, spousal abuse for instance.

“Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, and is himself its Saviour."

I just don’t buy it. IMO, like I said, it’s not about punishing women for having sex. It’s about punishing women for choosing not to have sex - with them.

Religion is the cover story. It’s actually revenge of the incels.

[luvtheGWN]

43. Always good to remember that

the Bible was written by men

[Joinfortmill]

5. Totally agree.

[Historic NY]

7. The American Talibon

[spike jones]

9. Some of the laws the American Christian Taliban will emplace if allowed to power.

See the first four books of the Bible for the complete list.
EX 20:8-11, 31:15-17, 34:21, 35:1-3 No work of any kind is to be done on the Sabbath, not even lighting of a fire. This commandment is permanent. Death is required for infractions. (Note: This would require even that essential services, such as hospitals, police departments, etc., shut down on the Sabbath.)
EX 21 -11 A father can sell a daughter into slavery to pay a debt. A daughter sold into slavery is not released at the end of six years as is an ordinary male slave.
EX 21:15 Whoever strikes his father or mother is to be put to death.
EX 21:16 Whoever steals a man is to be put to death. (Note: This is in spite of the fact that a father can sell his daughter into slavery; see EX 21 -11.)
EX 21:17, LE 20 , DT 21:18-21 A child who curses his parent(s) is to be put to death. A stubborn and/or rebellious child is to be put to death.
From Bible Precepts - Questionable Guidelines? (infidels.org)

[walkingman]

8. Woman is the n***** of the world - John Lennon 1972

Last edited Mon Aug 23, 2021, 01:52 PM - Edit history (1)

Yes she is, think about it
Woman is the n***** of the world
Think about it, do something about it
We make her paint her face and dance
If she won't be aslave, we say that she don't love us
If she's real, we say she's trying to be a man
While putting her down we pretend that she is above us
Woman is the n***** of the world, yes she is

[FoxNewsSucks]

11. I hope that doesn't get hidden for the n word use,

Because it is the plain truth.

[Deep State Witch]

31. You might want to * that N-word

I get the point, and it's a song lyric. But, some folks might be offended by it.

[Hekate]

10. AOC gets it, totally

[usaf-vet]

13. Religious groups have been fighting sex education in WI public schools since the late 1980

I know this for a fact because I was on the local school board in those years.

As a father who had been a military medic and had a degree in biology, I knew that half of their arguments to stop sex were either lies or out-and-out gross misrepresentation about sex and the biology of it.

On more than one occasion when I was a medic in the mid-1960 I saw firsthand the damage that botched abortion did.

In today's world, the arguments and misinformation regarding Covid and vaccination are akin to the anti-sex education zealots 40 years ago. The methodology is SPREAD FEAR it always works with the poorly educated or the delusional zealot.

[ChazII]

28. +1 n/t

[George II]

12. What did she say?

[myohmy2]

14. absolutely...

...

...that Taliban mentality is everywhere...

...

[iluvtennis]

16. Kick! n/t

[niyad]

17. Have been saying this for decades.

[Autumn]

18. And she nailed it to the wall with this

"Ultimately, this is about women’s power.

When women are in control of their sexuality, it threatens a core element underpinning right-wing ideology: patriarchy.

It’s a brutal form of oppression to seize control of the 1 essential thing a person should command: their own body."

-AOC

[Celerity]

55. +1000

[Bettie]

58. +1000

But of course, since AOC said it.

Even though it bears repeating regularly, since women's right to control their own bodies is constantly under attack, there will be a swarm attack because she dared to say anything about any topic.

They want her to sit down and shut up, but she's not the kind to do that.

It is now kind of a hobby to see how long any thread that even mentions AOC is up before the swarm comes. It never takes very long.

[Autumn]

60. And yet they never make an appearance in others.

[Bettie]

65. Weird right?

Sometimes it seems like it's their job or something...or at least a hobby that is pursued with great dedication.

[sheshe2]

63. Yet the quote is two years old.

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez says abortion bans are a "brutal form of oppression" and are about "owning women"
BY CAITLIN O'KANE

MAY 16, 2019 / 9:09 AM / CBS NEWS
[div class="excerpt"After the bill was signed, Ocasio-Cortez doubled down on her views about abortion laws. "Abortion bans aren't just about controlling women's bodies. They're about controlling women's sexuality. Owning women," she tweeted. "From limiting birth control to banning comprehensive sex ed, US religious fundamentalists are working hard to outlaw sex that falls outside their theology."

Yet here you criticize the OP for a two year old quote.

/www.democraticunderground.com/100215775463#post23

[Nixie]

66. Wait, so this thread isn't really about a 2-year old tweet??

It seems it’s more gossipy. What is this thread really about?

[CrispyQ]

19. Even they admit it.

[MiHale]

20. KnR

[Tiger8]

21. Why LGBTQA must support choice

An attack on one, is an attack on all.

When LGBTQA supports heterosexual women, we both overcome the Religious Control Freaks. Divide us, and we both lose.

[NurseJackie]

22. Thousands of people have ALREADY stated the same thing. Isn't she "simply" just repeating what other

Thousands of people have ALREADY stated the same thing. Isn't she "simply" just repeating what others have been saying all along for decades?

All I'm trying to say is that I believe those who said it before; and those who suffered before; and those who fought before; and those who died before are the ones who ACTUALLY deserve the thanks and praise.

[tonedevil]

23. Nothing knee-jerk negative...

In post 22 here thanks for the refreshing insight.

[NurseJackie]

26. I'm being honest and factual. I don't know why that would bother anyone.

[tonedevil]

27. If that's what you like to call it. /nt

[Me.]

32. Now Madam...When One Is Being Mansplained On THis Subject One Must Acquiesce

[tonedevil]

33. Mansplained?

Do tell

[Me.]

34. Why...Can'T You Figure It Out?

[tonedevil]

36. I guess you are just too smart for me. /nt

[Me.]

37. Why Thank You

[tonedevil]

39. I'm glad to be able to give you...

valuable male validation.

[Me.]

40. It Is, Of Course, What THe World Lives For

[Celerity]

57. +1

[George II]

25. I don't even know where that "quote" came from out of the blue, but it's nothing that hasn't....

....been said for decades, most likely even during testimony in the "Roe v. Wade" case.

[tonedevil]

44. For better of worse...

it comes from a tweet from 2019. At the time I think Representative Ocasio-Cortez was reacting to a bunch of bills passed by states to restrict abortion. I think it was relevant at the time it could be considered a bit random to quote it now. Still I don't understand the need to diminish everything Ocasio-Cortez does or says.

[George II]

45. No one diminished what she said. I believe only historical context was added. It seems odd though..

...that what appears to be a quote just popped up with no context or source (or even " " ), or what prompted it to be posted at this time.

Your post is helpful, though - so as you say it's a random quote of a two-year old tweet. Thanks!

[treestar]

54. True though by the same token

She is getting praise for saying it. The OP seems to think she states it wonderfully and simply and is to be praised.

[tonedevil]

56. Are you saying...

because someone wrote something positive about AOC it is only fair and to be expected that someone else would write something to diminish the praise?

[treestar]

59. No.

You don't understand the need to diminish everything she says. But not everyone diminishes what she says. The OP praises her for saying it. Nobody was talking about her until the OP brought it up.

Given that it is a discussion board, someone might disagree with praising her for it.

If someone posted an OP diminishing her for it, then maybe you'd think it unfair to satisfy the need to praise her for it by posting a disagreement?

[tonedevil]

61. OK

[Ohio Joe]

29. So... Those who continue the fight deserve... What?

In '82 I started doing escorts in and out of a PP on Long Island... And I was waaay late. I hate to say it but the fight is far from over and I'm not sure bashing the people fighting it does much good. IMO, everyone... Past, present and future who work towards womens equality ACTUALLY deserve thanks and praise.

[George II]

35. There is no mention of any "fight" or "fighting" in the OP's quotes, not even where it came from.

[Ohio Joe]

38. No... It does not use either of those words...

I'm not sure why you are telling me that though... I did not respond to the OP

As to where the OP came from... I assume AOC's twitter but I do not know that for a fact... Perhaps ask the OP where they got it?

[George II]

41. You're correct, my mistake (long threads get complicated!)

[Celerity]

62. here

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[NurseJackie]

42. That's not for me to say. I can tell you what they don't deserve however.

...I'm not sure bashing the people fighting it does much good.

Good grief. GMAFB! Nobody is bashing anyone. Stop it.

So... Those who continue the fight deserve... What?

All I'm trying to say to you is this: I can tell you that those who "continue the fight" do not deserve to be lauded and hailed as though they are some kind of original trailblazers or as though this is all brand new and their original cause that nobody ever noticed before. The reality is that they're following the well-trodden path of millions who came before.

[Ohio Joe]

46. OK...

"I can tell you that those who "continue the fight" do not deserve to be lauded and hailed as though they are some kind of original trailblazers or as though this is all brand new and their original cause that nobody ever noticed before. The reality is that they're following the well-trodden path of millions who came before."

So... The OP you responded to did not laud or hail AOC in any way, much less as though she had started anything. I'm also not seeing anyone in this whole thread doing such a thing... It was just a simple thank you.

[Me.]

24. Actually THere's Even More To It Now

It's a population thing

[Martin68]

30. Not a new idea, but good to hear it from an elected Representative.

[Stuart G]

47. K and R

[AZ8theist]

48. REPEAL THE 19TH AMENDMENT!!

How soon before we hear THAT SICK FUCKING SADISM???

[Wounded Bear]

49. K & R...for truth...and it has always been true...nt

[hlthe2b]

50. Damned right in every syllable.

[spanone]

51. K&R

[Evolve Dammit]

52. I really like AOC. She is intelligent, articulate, compassionate and has grit.

[Blue Owl]

53. K&R

[BeckyDem]

64. AOC. One of the very best. +1

[Laura PourMeADrink]

67. I love AOC - but to me, this is really WAY over the top.

Abortion bans, IMHO, for elected officials, are simply ONE thing - pleasing
a fundamentalist base and making this go way if it happened to them personally.

For a common man who got someone pregnant (not their wife), they would think 100% more simply than AOC implies.

They would think - what are our options and how can I make this go away? Unfortunately, it is a fact of life, since the beginning of time, that the women involved have to ultimately deal with it. Have it or not.