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DanieRains

(4,619 posts)
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 04:26 AM Aug 2021

It's Congress's Responsibility To Monitor Everything It Is Fine With Me The 2 Went To Kabul

They should have gotten pre-cleared, and may have, possibly in secret, but I don't trust much of what the military says.

They literally risked their lives, and I don't think it was 100% a political stunt.

If they weren't ex-military I would feel different, but they could actually assist if necessary.

I want congress watching the "stuff" going on.

Sorry if you disagree.

Danie~

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It's Congress's Responsibility To Monitor Everything It Is Fine With Me The 2 Went To Kabul (Original Post) DanieRains Aug 2021 OP
Rep Meijer was a Re-Publican multigraincracker Aug 2021 #1
Seth Moulton is an opportunist padah513 Aug 2021 #2
I don't disagree. Thanks for your op. abqtommy Aug 2021 #3
Not fine with me. Hey Seth after your anti-Biden Demsrule86 Aug 2021 #4
I disagree, being ex-military myself. They're Congressman, so everything had to stop... haele Aug 2021 #5
But do we have a clear idea of what they were doing there Mad_Machine76 Aug 2021 #6
Sorry if you disagree gratuitous Aug 2021 #7

padah513

(2,502 posts)
2. Seth Moulton is an opportunist
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 04:43 AM
Aug 2021

There are a lot of people in Congress who are ex-military. They didn't hop on a plane to do oversight in Afghanistan in the middle of an evacuation when nobody asked them to. Maybe that's why he didn't get pre-cleared because he knew they would have told him to keep his opportunistic butt at home. He wanted a freaking photo op so he could say that I was there. My opinion of course. No disrespect towards yours.

Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
4. Not fine with me. Hey Seth after your anti-Biden
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 05:53 AM
Aug 2021

tirade, I will never vote for you in a primary. You took two seats that could have been used to get folks out in an attempt to embarrass President Biden.

haele

(12,650 posts)
5. I disagree, being ex-military myself. They're Congressman, so everything had to stop...
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 09:22 AM
Aug 2021

The Military had to stop and scramble not only to set up a Dog and Pony show for them, but to provide Security. The State department had to stop and ensure they were going to get staff to support their little tour.

I worked on a DoD project when I was active, and we were under Congressional Oversight. Everything had to stop whenever one of those idiots or their staff came onboard, because they always wanted to waste our time looking over our shoulders and talking to us about how the mission was going, rather than letting us go on doing our jobs to keep the mission going.

Congressional visits always slowed us down, no matter how "informal" they wanted to be, because they were giving us money to do our work and it was a waste of time to them talking to someone's butt when the sailor was working inside a rack or console putting in a field change to support the next experimental exercise.

And it was dangerously distracting, as well as annoying as hell even if they were just walking by - with a Chief or Officer (who got taken away from their work) assigned to them to keep them from getting lost - and stopped to "observe" you while you were working.

No, those "surprise visits" interfered with operations on the ground - not only for the two evacuees who got bumped because of this visit, but for all the ongoing work - especially the security work - that stopped because those two Congressmen couldn't just walk around Kabul airport blindly or unescorted. Doesn't matter if they were ex-military or not, either.

Haele

Mad_Machine76

(24,412 posts)
6. But do we have a clear idea of what they were doing there
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 09:28 AM
Aug 2021

and why they went unexpectedly into the middle of an evacuation? This wasn't a surprise inspection of a border detention facility or something. Plus, they took up seats coming back that could have been given to a couple of evacuees. I think more questions need to be asked about what exactly they were doing. If it was something purposeful and benign, fine. Given Moulton's incendiary comments last week about Biden being responsible for the impending suicides of veterans, it's sort of hard to feel too positive about his motives at the moment.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
7. Sorry if you disagree
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 09:50 AM
Aug 2021

Have you checked with the two people who got bumped from an evacuation flight to accommodate Moultrie and Meijer how they feel about the not-100%-a-political-stunt?

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