Man Photographed as Baby on 'Nevermind' Cover Sues Nirvana, Alleging Child Pornography

[cinematicdiversions]

Spencer Elden, the man whose unusual baby portrait was used for one of the most recognizable album covers of all time, Nirvana’s “Nevermind,” filed a lawsuit Tuesday alleging that the nude image constituted child pornography.

Now my question is if you have this album in Itunes will the Iphone Child Porn photo cloud tracker alert authorities to your possession of child porn?

[USALiberal]

1. Source?? Link??

[Bettie]

3. Here you go

https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/pop-culture-news/man-photographed-baby-nevermind-cover-sues-nirvana-alleging-child-pornography-n1277578

Personally, I think it is a ridiculous lawsuit, but he's looking for a payday and will probably get it.

[FSogol]

6. He's claiming he couldn't consent because he was 1. However, his parents did consent. Case over.

[Whiskeytide]

25. Per the article, it's not really clear ...

… that the parents consented. In a 2008 interview the father said the photographer (a friend) called him and said you can make $200 if you let me photograph your kid in the pool. They had a pool party and the photo was taken, and the parents never really knew what it was for until later.

Might be BS, and certainly you could say dad was stupid for not realizing the photo would have had some commercial purpose, but the failure to get the parents to sign a consent form backs up the murky circumstances.

Funny. I remember thinking at the time why would parents let their kid be in that photo. It’s bound to be weird when they grow up.

[USALiberal]

11. Thank you!!!

[cinematicdiversions]

8. Sorry was on phone couldn't figure out link thing. NT

[Bettie]

13. I know the feeling

and am happy to help when I can!

[Rorey]

2. Well

I don't know enough about the intent of whoever decided to use that as a cover photo, but I guess I sort of shudder at the thought of what kind of door this kind of suit will open as far as baby photos go.

What I mean is, lots of parents take photos of their babies in the bath, or otherwise unclothed, and I've never before thought of the photos as being child pornography.

[Glorfindel]

7. Just imagine the impact on Renaissance paintings of Madonna and Child

Museums would have to provide tiny aprons for their depictions of the Holy Infant. The mind reels...

[Rorey]

9. I was thinking of that too

I mean, the artists can't be sued because they're long gone, but could the museums be held accountable for being in possession of "child porn"?

[Glorfindel]

4. Mr. Elden was interviewed on NPR about this photo in 2008

Here's a link and a partial transcript. At that time, he thought it was "cool."

https://www.npr.org/2008/07/23/92833535/once-naked-for-nirvana-now-a-teen-spirit

[Rorey]

21. Yup, it was "cool" all those years

This type of thing clogging up our courts is ridiculous.

[LiberatedUSA]

5. Under our laws...

…the nudity has to be sexual in nature, otherwise almost all parents would be guilty of child porn.

The unfortunate side effect, is it allows “nudism” websites to exist, even though no real nudist would be interested in their content, let alone pay for it.

[Rorey]

10. Correction

I got confused with all of the articles. This one is from 2008:

https://www.npr.org/2008/07/23/92833535/once-naked-for-nirvana-now-a-teen-spirit

[Rorey]

12. In 2016 Elden recreated the image

It seems he was fine with it five years ago, and now he's not? It sounds like he's on a money grab.

https://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/baby-nirvana-album-cover-recreates-iconic-image-25-years-later/

AND in that 2016 article, it says the photographer "talked Elden out of doing the shoot naked like the original."

[FreepFryer]

14. OK, Z-Genner. (Nt)

[obamanut2012]

16. He is a Millennial

[FreepFryer]

17. Born in the 90s? I would call him Z gen.

Generation Z (or Gen Z for short), colloquially also known as zoomers,[1][2] is the demographic cohort succeeding Millennials and preceding Generation Alpha. Researchers and popular media use the mid-to-late 1990s as starting birth years and the early 2010s as ending birth years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_Z

I’d also add, w this suit he is acting immaturely for his age

[Drunken Irishman]

22. He's more aligned with a Millennial, I'd say (as one).

He was born in the early 90s, just months before the album was released. Even the wiki article suggeste a Gen Zer is someone born no earlier than the mid-90s. Even that is pushing it, imo, as I feel someone born in 1991 is probably a lot closer to someone born in 1985 than, say, someone born in 2010 (beyond just age, of course).

[FreepFryer]

23. As a gen X'er I pride myself on my ability to acknowledge your superior argument

And remain bemused by all this entitled shit while I live my latch key life



Thanks Obamanut and Drunken

[Celerity]

28. Here are the widely accepted (including in most academia) gen boundaries

Boomers 1946-1964
Gen X 1965-1980
Millennials 1981-1996
Gen Z 1997-2012 (end date is starting to coalesce)
Gen Alpha 2013-?

There are a few micro gens that many acknowledge

Generation Jones (late Boomers, say born 1958-1964)

Blank or Skip years (Born in 1965 and 1966, this is widely used in Sweden and other Euro countries)

Xennials or Carter Babies or Generation Catalano (born 1977 to 1980)

Zennials/Zillennials (born 1992-1998)

I do a lot of work with demography and the main gen boundaries (other than the end date for Gen Z) are pretty much etched in stone by now.

[moose65]

15. Weird

After reading the articles, it seems to me that he might have a better case if he sued them for using his image without his permission, rather than child porn. If his parents were paid only $200 and they never signed anything for the use of the image, it seems like he might have a case.

[Progressive Jones]

18. Another scrounge trying to get money for nothing. nt

[Tarc]

19. Lol, yet he had no issues recreating the pic on the anniversaries?

10th (inset) and 15th



25th




Fuck that grifter.

[Rorey]

20. Oh, gosh....he looks SO distressed in those recreation pics

Poor traumatized guy

[roamer65]

27. Doesn't help your case when you have the album title tattooed on ur chest.

[Happy Hoosier]

24. LOL WUT!?

Not every picture of a penis is porn. I predict this suit is summarily dismissed.

[Fullduplexxx]

26. Shameless money grab

[Chainfire]

29. He is suing the wrong bunch, he needs to be suing his parents.