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NanceGreggs

(27,814 posts)
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 04:59 PM Aug 2021

Another fine mess, GOP

Republican voters who still believe the Big Lie are pissed off that some GOP leaders are telling them to "move on", thereby allowing the Democrats to get away with having stolen the election from Trump instead of continuing the fight.

Republican voters who put their faith in the Big Lie being exposed (by Mike Lindell, Cyber Ninjas, etc.) are pissed off that no evidence of vote fraud has yet been proven by any person or organization the GOP has been promising would do so.

As a result, one can surmise that some Republican voters are realizing that the Big Lie was a LIE that their GOP leaders have been selling them all along. And the longer the Big Lie goes unproven, the more Republican voters there will be who become skeptical about the 2020 election ever having been "stolen" in the first place.

So come next election, who will pissed-off Republican voters vote for: the GOP leaders who told them what turned out to actually be a Big Lie, the ones who weren't competent enough to prove the Big Lie, or the ones who just told them to forget about it and move on?







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Another fine mess, GOP (Original Post) NanceGreggs Aug 2021 OP
Put Trump on TV and challenge him to provide evidence for his lies. Karadeniz Aug 2021 #1
I doubt they will ever realize they were lied to. But it most likely will keep them from voting SoonerPride Aug 2021 #2
I truly don't think they would consider ANY of those options.... MyOwnPeace Aug 2021 #3
That's my point ... NanceGreggs Aug 2021 #4
Oh they'll still vote for the (R) no matter what Zorro Aug 2021 #5
I respectfully disagree. NanceGreggs Aug 2021 #6
I say...not vote at all... agingdem Aug 2021 #7
Some won't vote at all ... NanceGreggs Aug 2021 #8

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
2. I doubt they will ever realize they were lied to. But it most likely will keep them from voting
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 05:02 PM
Aug 2021

They think elections can be stolen so why bother?

The Big Lie will lead to their own defeat.

Karma.


MyOwnPeace

(16,926 posts)
3. I truly don't think they would consider ANY of those options....
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 05:05 PM
Aug 2021

they just want to follow ANYBODY that will show them how to "OWN THE LIBS!"

NanceGreggs

(27,814 posts)
4. That's my point ...
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 05:20 PM
Aug 2021

... about them being pissed-off by GOP leaders telling them to forget it and move on. They take that as refusing to "own the libs" - and instead allowing the libs to own them.

Every talking point has a shelf life - and the "election was stolen" meme is already nearing its expiry date because the GOP have yet to back it up with any proof that it happened.

By the mid-term elections next November, we'll be two whole years away from November 2020. I don't think "the election was stolen and we're going to prove it any day now" is going to be a big selling point.



Zorro

(15,740 posts)
5. Oh they'll still vote for the (R) no matter what
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 05:30 PM
Aug 2021

There's a RWNJ on our local Nextdoor site that 1) continues to insist Biden stole the election, 2) when asked for proof the election was stolen, responds by saying that asking to provide evidence is "right out of the Alinsky playbook", and then 3) demands proof that Biden won the election.

So I think the "stolen election" meme will still linger on into the 2022 election cycle. It will remain an obsession with the truly committed.

NanceGreggs

(27,814 posts)
6. I respectfully disagree.
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 05:50 PM
Aug 2021

I believe that those who are still clinging to the "stolen election" meme by next November will simply not vote at all because why should they when (a) their GOP leaders couldn't prove it or didn't bother to prove it, and/or (b) the fact that the Dems got away with rigging the 2020 election simply means they'll do it again.

I don't think any Republican running next November will be trotting out the "stolen election" TP at all - because it leaves them open to having to defend the fact that the GOP didn't manage to overturn that "stolen" election, either through incompetence and/or a lack of commitment to doing so.



agingdem

(7,849 posts)
7. I say...not vote at all...
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 06:45 PM
Aug 2021

think about Georgia and the run-off election...according to Trump...don't trust the validity of the mail-in ballot...Dominion flipped votes to Biden..dead people voted...phony signatures...shredded ballots..so what happened?...the Republican voter stayed home.

I think the Republican voter will not vote for anyone who encourages them to move on, not because they feel they were being played but because they feel betrayed and abandoned and worse..Trump has been betrayed, stabbed in the back...protect Trump, protect the Big Lie...don't vote...that'll show them!

NanceGreggs

(27,814 posts)
8. Some won't vote at all ...
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 08:57 PM
Aug 2021

... because they believe elections are rigged.

Some won't vote (R) because their GOP leaders didn't fight hard enough to prove the 2020 election was 'stolen'.

Some won't vote (R) because the GOP relied on inept people like Mike Lindell and Cyber Ninjas to make the case.

And some won't vote (R) because they've realized the 2020 election was never stolen in the first place - which explains the lack of evidence that it was.

That certainly doesn't describe every Republican voter - it will add up to a few hundred here, a few thousand there.

But those non-(R) votes add up and in close races, they can mean the difference between a win and a loss.

I think too many people make the mistake of believing that all Republican voters vote en masse for the (R)s on the ticket, without any thought that goes beyond that. That is true of some, but certainly not all.





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