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kpete

(71,986 posts)
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 06:41 PM Aug 2021

O U C H .

Biden's handling of the withdrawal had its flaws. But there is simply no proud way to lose a war to a cult of heroin-dealing child rapists (especially when your side in that war featured no small number of men who fit a similar description).


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Budi

(15,325 posts)
1. " This political fiasco is not a development that the media covered so much as one that it created"
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 06:50 PM
Aug 2021
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/08/media-bias-biden-polls-approval-afghanistan-withdrawal.html

THE MEDIA 3:15 P.M.
The Media Manufactured Biden’s Political ‘Fiasco’ in Afghanistan “Straight news” has chosen sanctimony over circumspection.
By Eric Levitz@

America's withdrawal from Afghanistan has yet to cost our nation a single casualty. Evacuations of U.S. citizens and allies from Kabul’s airport are proceeding at a faster pace than the White House had promised, or than its critics had deemed possible. Afghanistan’s decades-long civil war has reached a lull, if not an end.

On the streets of Kabul, “order and quiet” have replaced “rising crime and violence.” Meanwhile, the Taliban is negotiating with former Afghan president Hamid Karzai over the establishment of “an inclusive government acceptable to all Afghans.”

In other words, Joe Biden’s withdrawal from Afghanistan has been a “disastrous” and “humiliating” “fiasco,” in the words of the mainstream media’s ostensibly objective foreign-policy journalists.

This may be an accurate description of what recent events in Kabul have meant for the president, politically.
The latest polls have shown sharp drops in Biden’s approval rating, driven in part by widespread opposition to “the way” his administration handled its (otherwise popular) exit from Afghanistan.
Yet this political fiasco is not a development that the media covered so much as one that it created.
MORE..

Most truthful written piece, yet.

Media should hang their heads in shame.


kimbutgar

(21,137 posts)
2. I read this book years ago by Gary Jennings
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 06:56 PM
Aug 2021

He wrote that Afghan culture was notorious for preparing young boys for rape. They would put plugs in to widen the anus and when a boy was just entering puberty they were violated. At first I thought it was ridiculous but when I found an old encyclopedia from the 1950’s and in the entry about Afghanistan they mentioned this practice. No wonder they hate women they are all pedophiles because of their culture.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
3. MORE...
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 06:57 PM
Aug 2021

SNIP
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/08/media-bias-biden-polls-approval-afghanistan-withdrawal.html

...All of which is to say:
Ascertaining how much of the heartache in Kabul today derives from imperfections in Biden’s withdrawal plan — and how much would have occurred under any plausible U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan — is no easy task.

It is also a task that the media has felt no obligation to undertake. Mainstream coverage of Kabul’s fall and its aftermath has been anything but circumspect.

Attempts to weigh the benefits of America’s withdrawal (e.g., the humanitarian gains inherent to the cessation of 20 years of civil war) against its costs have been rare; attempts to judge Biden’s execution of that withdrawal against rigorous counterfactuals have been rarer still. Instead, ostensibly neutral correspondents and anchors have (1) openly editorialized against the White House’s policy; (2) assigned Biden near-total responsibility for the final collapse of the proto-failed state his predecessors had established; and then (3) reported on the potential political costs of Biden’s actions, as though they were not actively imposing those costs through their own speculations about just “how politically damaging” the president’s failures of “competence” and “empathy” would prove to be.

brush

(53,774 posts)
4. Afghanistan was a stalemate not a loss. The Taliban did not...
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 06:58 PM
Aug 2021

defeat American troops. Afghan troops laid down without fighting for their own country and the Afghan president fled the country with 160 some stolen millions in his luggage...so of course it's Biden's fault even though trump had 11 months to evacuate after his Feb. 2020 agreement with the Taliban to free 5000 Taliban fighter and leave by May 2021.

Of course he did nothing, nothing that is besides trying to steal an election after he loss and then stage and insurrection against his own government.

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