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The Slobfather is going down (Original Post) malaise Aug 2021 OP
Benny Thompson coming up after the break malaise Aug 2021 #1
;-) elleng Aug 2021 #3
ROFL malaise Aug 2021 #6
*Benny Thompson, Chair of investigation committee, elleng Aug 2021 #2
God willing mahina Aug 2021 #4
A lot pro-democracies do tune into MSNBC night . .. Lovie777 Aug 2021 #5
Dream on. KentuckyWoman Aug 2021 #7
He tried to overthrow the elected President malaise Aug 2021 #11
I love ya, but Ferrets are Cool Aug 2021 #25
Yes he should be in a cell at the Hague with CHeney et al - for crimes against humanity malaise Aug 2021 #30
yes!!! CatWoman Aug 2021 #8
And the planners from April 2020 malaise Aug 2021 #9
Can't wait to see the hearings... 2naSalit Aug 2021 #10
Oh Yes! malaise Aug 2021 #13
I'm sure we'll have time to gather our goodies and treats... 2naSalit Aug 2021 #15
As much as I would like to believe it, I am not holding my breath. Chainfire Aug 2021 #12
Fitzmas NoRethugFriends Aug 2021 #14
i wish you Debbie Downers would keep that Fitzmas bullshit to yourselves CatWoman Aug 2021 #16
And, pray tell me why you think that our opinions are not a valuable response as your rock throwing? Chainfire Aug 2021 #17
It's just that whenever I see a thread containing good news (in my opinion) CatWoman Aug 2021 #20
This is not H2O Man Aug 2021 #22
hey Bud CatWoman Aug 2021 #24
Hello! H2O Man Aug 2021 #27
saw it CatWoman Aug 2021 #28
I'm going all ditto on this one.. denbot Aug 2021 #48
Rock throwing? H2O Man Aug 2021 #21
We don't need falsehoods under the guise of Positive Vibrations. Chainfire Aug 2021 #57
Having read the entire H2O Man Aug 2021 #58
because they're not interesting NJCher Aug 2021 #38
word CatWoman Aug 2021 #42
Very well said! H2O Man Aug 2021 #50
People can create all kinds of scenarios about Trump being brought to justice, Chainfire Aug 2021 #53
warning people NJCher Aug 2021 #54
You've been here a long time. NoRethugFriends Aug 2021 #23
how about feeling good about a discussion CatWoman Aug 2021 #26
THIS - you and WaterMan malaise Aug 2021 #32
BY posting the possibility of saidevent notoccurring, I am able to make you not feel good? NoRethugFriends Aug 2021 #35
How about this? LuvLoogie Aug 2021 #39
Nope. Can't. I'm retired. NoRethugFriends Sep 2021 #66
Apparently you have as well, in one form or another. "Fitzmas" is a very time-specific reference. Hekate Aug 2021 #36
can you name a comparable number of times NJCher Aug 2021 #40
You believe everything? Nt USALiberal Aug 2021 #49
Very clever. Did you get that reference by osmosis, or have we met before in the misty past? Hekate Aug 2021 #33
Take thee to the greatest page! Evolve Dammit Aug 2021 #18
Unlike Fitzmas and Muellergate, we have a democratic AG Cetacea Aug 2021 #19
Indeed malaise Aug 2021 #34
Good point. nt spooky3 Aug 2021 #41
Ya but, he seems to be slow walking justice IMO. I find it hard to believe Hotler Aug 2021 #65
MF45 already stated gab13by13 Aug 2021 #29
I think there was already a decision made wnylib Aug 2021 #44
Fuck The Dotard. Admit it or not, he lost. argyl Aug 2021 #45
Fuck The Dotard. Admit it or not, he lost. argyl Aug 2021 #46
Hope he has a look at the ruling from the Illinois judge yesterday malaise Aug 2021 #51
He is no longer "executive" of anything - except in his own mind Rhiannon12866 Aug 2021 #60
K&R spanone Aug 2021 #31
From Rachel's (and your) lips to The Lady's ears. Hekate Aug 2021 #37
From your lips to gawd's ears... dixiechiken1 Aug 2021 #43
will believe it when I see it.... Hulk Aug 2021 #47
How many months has it been since it was predicted Gaetz was going to be indicted any minute? Treefrog Aug 2021 #52
Again??!! I sure have lost count by now. nt Carlitos Brigante Aug 2021 #55
I want so much to believe this Bettie Aug 2021 #56
Turn up the hellfires for that motherfucker Blue Owl Aug 2021 #59
The asshole will tie up everything with legal challenges until Bennie Thompson Vinca Aug 2021 #61
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2021 #62
LOL! Jim G. Aug 2021 #63
Huh? malaise Aug 2021 #64

malaise

(268,967 posts)
11. He tried to overthrow the elected President
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 09:45 PM
Aug 2021

and he had help from people in Congress, the military and others.
This is HUGE!

Ferrets are Cool

(21,106 posts)
25. I love ya, but
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 10:13 PM
Aug 2021

W orchestrated the killing of almost a million children, women and men in Iraq and he is walking around free as a bird. I will believe it when I see it.

malaise

(268,967 posts)
30. Yes he should be in a cell at the Hague with CHeney et al - for crimes against humanity
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 10:25 PM
Aug 2021

This time it is at home - we'll see, I am hopeful.

2naSalit

(86,579 posts)
15. I'm sure we'll have time to gather our goodies and treats...
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 09:49 PM
Aug 2021

It won't be for a couple weeks at least.

Chainfire

(17,536 posts)
12. As much as I would like to believe it, I am not holding my breath.
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 09:46 PM
Aug 2021

He is like black mold, you think you have it knocked down and it appears in another spot. I think that the odds are as great of him getting the Republican nomination for President as him going down a legal hole. I don't see the courts ever allowing Trump to be brought to justice, regardless of evidence. The system has been well and truly rigged.

I am losing confidence in our Democracy's ability to bounce back from the modern Fascist calling themselves Republicans. It will be them in conjunction with the conservative Supreme Court that drives the final nail in our coffin. If we don't figure out how to turn things around, really quickly, things that are too bad to contemplate will begin happening.

CatWoman

(79,301 posts)
16. i wish you Debbie Downers would keep that Fitzmas bullshit to yourselves
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 09:50 PM
Aug 2021

why piss in this thread?

WHY????

Chainfire

(17,536 posts)
17. And, pray tell me why you think that our opinions are not a valuable response as your rock throwing?
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 09:53 PM
Aug 2021

When I see Trump led off in cuffs, I will apologize.

CatWoman

(79,301 posts)
20. It's just that whenever I see a thread containing good news (in my opinion)
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 10:00 PM
Aug 2021

there's always someone coming along to throw virtual ice water in the thread.

"Y'all happy, huh??? I'll fix that shit"

H2O Man

(73,537 posts)
22. This is not
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 10:10 PM
Aug 2021

the time for Democrats to bring their inner Eeyore to the surface. I agree with you 100% -- as I always do.

H2O Man

(73,537 posts)
27. Hello!
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 10:15 PM
Aug 2021

I'm still shaking my head about the person saying you are throwing rocks. I responded to that, below.

H2O Man

(73,537 posts)
21. Rock throwing?
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 10:09 PM
Aug 2021

That's an odd choice of words. Just my opinion.But I suppose the choice of words might sound very different than intended on the internet.

Several of my sisters are members of the DU community, including Catwoman, whom you accused of rock throwing )odd!) and Malaise, the author of the OP. Neither even approximate "rock thrower" in even the slightest. Rather, both are intelligent, kind, and gentle ladies who believe that the rule of law should be both respected and enforced. That's so different from throwing rocks. They both speak the truth, not throw rocks -- I still find that one very odd, indeed.

We need Positive Vibrations these days.

Chainfire

(17,536 posts)
57. We don't need falsehoods under the guise of Positive Vibrations.
Thu Aug 26, 2021, 12:47 PM
Aug 2021

We need to wake up and pay attention to our Democracy being pulled down around us, one stone at the time. More people need to be more angry about what is happening to us. If you want to see our trajectory, look at Texas and Florida. Look at what they are doing in all of the "Cowboy" states. While we hold on to a razor thin margin of power on the National level, but we are losing in the states. Even the liberal bastion of California is in a struggle that could end Democratic control. The second and third largest states in the union have gone full jack-boot! If California goes, it will be a Fascist trifecta.

Of course, if you had rather have happy fantasies, that is fine. If you want to believe that Trump is going to prison, that the Republicans are on their way out, that Fascism is shrinking in this country, that we are becoming "more Democratic" so be it. The coming midterm elections will decide the fate of the Nation and they are a hell of a long way from looking optimistic.

I will keep shouting the warnings as long as I am able. If you can't stand it, just look away.

H2O Man

(73,537 posts)
58. Having read the entire
Thu Aug 26, 2021, 06:20 PM
Aug 2021

OP/thread, I can say without question that there wasn't any falsehood put forth in an attempt to create Positive Vibrations. The OP/thread is about a news report that provided up-dated information on an important investigation. That was both accurate and good. Does it mean that the eventual outcome of the investigation bring about perfected legal and social justice? Of course not. Yet it is a step in the right direction, and definitely a necessary one.

Certainly emotions -- including but not limited to happiness, sadness, and anger -- influence the manner that each individual interprets information. Likewise, emotions impact our ability to accomplish things -- for sake of this sub-discussion, I'll limit those things to the social-political activity that is essential if we have any hope of restoring our democracy.

I'd note that "health psychology" studies that hospital patients that are somewhat grumpy tend to have the best outcomes, compared to those that always have a smile and do not complain. No question that we inhabit a sick society today, but I do not believe those studies apply here. Still, I like when Paul sang, "It's getting better all the time," and John added, "Can't get much worse." While I do think that our culture has lost something important in regard to singing -- watch a group of third-world women working together, and you'll hear songs -- at this time I think Malcolm's talk about Muhammad Ali had great meri, when he expanded to note that although Ali was a talented singer, he won the heavyweight title by swinging. Hence, "it's time to stop singing and starte swinging." Figuratively, of course.

By no coincidence, two of my favorite activities throughout my long life have been boxing and social-political work. I boxed a total of 329 fights in the 1960s - '70s. I learned that when boxing, it is important to not have any emotion. It might be a fun match, an unpleasant one, or anything in between. But zero emotion until the fight is over. More if possible, make the opponent angry before the fight, as there is nothing easier to exploit than your opponent's anger.

My approach to politics is the same as my approach to boxing. Be clear-headed. Be focused. Develop ways to exploit both the strengths and weaknesses of your opponent. And inflict as much damage as possible, so they hesitate to go against you in the future. But that's just me. Some of my best friends experience emotions when dealing with things social-political. I'd be a damned fool to think that there is only one way -- my way-- to do things. And so I try to avoid attempting to interfere when they are happy about something like last night's news report. Again, that's just me.

NJCher

(35,662 posts)
38. because they're not interesting
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 11:00 PM
Aug 2021
why you think that our opinions are not a valuable response

anybody can type out a negative, hopeless scenario. Sheesh, at least provide us with something interesting to read. Choose a point that's pertinent and move the discussion forward. All you are doing is Debbie Downing and that is not valuable. In fact it's downright boring and predictable.

But if you insist on telling everyone it's all hopeless, then at least provide some specifics. Give examples. Tell us what system failures lead you to believe the way you do.





Chainfire

(17,536 posts)
53. People can create all kinds of scenarios about Trump being brought to justice,
Thu Aug 26, 2021, 10:24 AM
Aug 2021

and the country living happily ever after if they wish but that is just feel-good daydreaming. Ignoring the current danger that our country faces and spinning tales may make you happy, but it won't make you safe. I saw the mirror images of these kinds of stories on the conservative forum that I monitored for years.

I disagreed with the contention that Trump was on his way down for the simple reason that the same power system is in place that has protected him for years.

And I only think that our situation is hopeless if people don't wake up and take a hard look at where we are going.



NJCher

(35,662 posts)
54. warning people
Thu Aug 26, 2021, 12:09 PM
Aug 2021

If that's your objective, I suggest a more motivating way of writing your posts. The way your post is written does nothing but paint a picture of gloom and doom: black mold. TGG is going to get the nomination. The system is rigged. You end up with a statement that we have to turn things around real quick.

Everybody knows it around here: there are disruptors who paint the blackest possible picture. Why? Because if you can de-motivate your opponent by making him/her believe that the attempt is fruitless, you've just eliminated one more activist or voter.

I'm not calling you a disruptor but I am suggesting that you have an emotional issue with gloom and doom and you foist it off on posters here. A lot of people have this problem--that they see the glass half empty. It could be a genetic thing, but regardless, be aware of it because the last thing you want to do is discourage voters/posters/activists from pursuing our cause.

Go back and read your post 12. One lousy sentence is all you wrote to try to "alert" people. Whoop de do.

NoRethugFriends

(2,307 posts)
23. You've been here a long time.
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 10:11 PM
Aug 2021

I think you understand this is a discussion board, not a feel-good board.
I've been here a long time, despite the post count, And I, like many others, have been disappointed multiple times by what appears to be a slam dunk clanging off the rim. (excuse the basketball reference).

NoRethugFriends

(2,307 posts)
35. BY posting the possibility of saidevent notoccurring, I am able to make you not feel good?
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 10:35 PM
Aug 2021

Did you imagine no one else thought of Fitzmas?

LuvLoogie

(6,999 posts)
39. How about this?
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 11:01 PM
Aug 2021

It's possible that trump steals back the Whitehouse, instills Christo-fascist law, and sends Stephen Miller to shoot your dog--

in the rain, on Friday the 13th, right after you get fired.

It could happen.

NJCher

(35,662 posts)
40. can you name a comparable number of times
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 11:05 PM
Aug 2021

when the system did take care of business?

Is your view fair and balanced or is this just a place for you to vent your frustrations and disappointment?

Hotler

(11,420 posts)
65. Ya but, he seems to be slow walking justice IMO. I find it hard to believe
Fri Aug 27, 2021, 09:54 AM
Aug 2021

that there isn't one law on the books that can't be used to arrest the orange one right now, even if it is for only 72-hrs.

gab13by13

(21,323 posts)
29. MF45 already stated
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 10:21 PM
Aug 2021

he is going to sue and claim executive privilege to stop the release of materials. This is not being a downer it is a fact. The select committee may win out but I suspect getting this information in 2 weeks isn't going to happen.

I sincerely hope that I am wrong.

wnylib

(21,442 posts)
44. I think there was already a decision made
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 11:44 PM
Aug 2021

by DOJ that executive privilege cannot apply in a case like this. Would have to check but I think the courts back that decision.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
47. will believe it when I see it....
Thu Aug 26, 2021, 12:07 AM
Aug 2021

Sorry....but I have zero faith that that pile of human shit will ever serve a day behind bars, and barely an ounce of faith that he will ever pay a dime. Our justice system is just too fucked up, and he is an expert at misusing the system to his advantage.

 

Treefrog

(4,170 posts)
52. How many months has it been since it was predicted Gaetz was going to be indicted any minute?
Thu Aug 26, 2021, 07:01 AM
Aug 2021

Tfg isn’t going down, as nice as it might be to think so.

Bookmarked.

Bettie

(16,095 posts)
56. I want so much to believe this
Thu Aug 26, 2021, 12:17 PM
Aug 2021

I really do.

But, I don't think it will happen. Too many are set to protect him because if he can get away with this, a lot of actually rich and powerful people will know they can as well. So, they will protect him to protect their own plans.

Vinca

(50,269 posts)
61. The asshole will tie up everything with legal challenges until Bennie Thompson
Fri Aug 27, 2021, 08:03 AM
Aug 2021

dies of old age. Unless judges step up to the plate and do the right thing quickly I'm afraid the bloated dictator will get away with everything. Speaking of judges . . . HA! Imagine it getting to the Supreme Court and how low "Trump's judges" would bow and scrape to exonerate him.

Response to malaise (Original post)

Jim G.

(14,811 posts)
63. LOL!
Fri Aug 27, 2021, 08:31 AM
Aug 2021

So, do you sign up here so often because you actually believe anyone is interested in your psychotic ramblings?





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