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dsc

(52,161 posts)
Thu Aug 26, 2021, 09:46 PM Aug 2021

The eviction moratorium has been struck down




I honestly figured this would happen, the decision on the previous one made it clear than any extension was DOA. But this is part of a growing problem with the shadow docket. In just two days, the court gave us major decisions with literally no explanation. Yesterday's decision literally requires us to either invade Mexico or give into any Mexican demands that might be forthcoming to restart a program that Trump had already suspended, while today's requires us to let tenants be evicted in the teeth of the worse pandemic numbers of the entire pandemic in both Florida and NC at least. Most other states have the worst numbers they have had in months.
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The eviction moratorium has been struck down (Original Post) dsc Aug 2021 OP
If Breyer is dispairing dflprincess Aug 2021 #1
Exactly. nt ecstatic Aug 2021 #7
He plans on dying in his seat, so he won't have to worry about despairing anymore n/t Blaukraut Aug 2021 #9
pretty clear he plans to die in office qazplm135 Aug 2021 #27
Breyer Knows SoCalDavidS Aug 2021 #2
Even Pres. Biden was expecting this ruling MichMan Aug 2021 #3
That's what the Roberts SCROTUS will be doing from now on. FoxNewsSucks Aug 2021 #4
That's what the Roberts SCROTUS will be doing from now on. LenaBaby61 Aug 2021 #10
They might be defending Biden FoxNewsSucks Aug 2021 #15
Chump's bought-and-paid-for "3 Stooges" are delivering exactly what had been promised. bullwinkle428 Aug 2021 #5
The Roberts Court is showing it's true fascistic and anti-Democratic tendencies now. ZonkerHarris Aug 2021 #6
OK, seriously... how is upholding property rights "anti-Democratic"? Goodheart Aug 2021 #11
It is undemocratic to do so without any real explanation nor public arguments dsc Aug 2021 #14
Orders direct from the CDC aren't exactly democratic either MichMan Aug 2021 #20
There were clear explanations and public arguments FBaggins Aug 2021 #23
Judicial Review itself qazplm135 Aug 2021 #28
Hate to say it, but I just don't see how the eviction moratorium was constitutional. Goodheart Aug 2021 #8
I honestly did find the moratorium somewhat dubious dsc Aug 2021 #12
I Agree. I think it was a good emergency short term policy. cinematicdiversions Aug 2021 #16
of course it's constitutional qazplm135 Aug 2021 #29
If they want to help people about to be evicted, get the federal money out for delinquent rent. Hoyt Aug 2021 #13
It's states like NY's fault choie Aug 2021 #22
Seems states' fault. I don't get the delay. You'd think Blue states want to help renters Hoyt Aug 2021 #25
Where is the Maxine Waters bill to stop this. The Biden administration said the SC said this was up JohnSJ Aug 2021 #17
I doubt we can get it through the House dsc Aug 2021 #18
Add it to reconciliation JohnSJ Aug 2021 #24
The problem is they kept kicking the can Johnny2X2X Aug 2021 #19
Yes it is way too many people at once mvd Aug 2021 #21
Two Americas. Cerridwen Aug 2021 #26
Sounds like the court is taking over the function of the executive branch. Crunchy Frog Aug 2021 #30

dflprincess

(28,075 posts)
1. If Breyer is dispairing
Thu Aug 26, 2021, 09:49 PM
Aug 2021

he might want to give Biden the chance to replace him. How dispairing will he be if we wind up with a 7th conservative in his seat?

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
27. pretty clear he plans to die in office
Fri Aug 27, 2021, 12:20 AM
Aug 2021

not sure why, but if he hasn't left by now, he isn't, short of a life threatening illness or death.

SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
2. Breyer Knows
Thu Aug 26, 2021, 09:50 PM
Aug 2021

He knows that for probably the next 40 years, the liberals are fucked in the courts.

Hopefully he retires sooner rather than later, so President Biden can appoint a replacement, so things don't get even worse.

FoxNewsSucks

(10,429 posts)
4. That's what the Roberts SCROTUS will be doing from now on.
Thu Aug 26, 2021, 09:51 PM
Aug 2021

Ruling the way corporations and billionaires want. And often enough the way RWNJs want, such as Roe v Wade to keep the booger-eaters voting R.

Screw the law, screw precedent, screw procedure. That's how they'll rule.

And certain Democratic elected officials are apparently OK with that.

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
10. That's what the Roberts SCROTUS will be doing from now on.
Thu Aug 26, 2021, 10:02 PM
Aug 2021

And IF the GQP/US Taliban can steal the Congress/Senate back, look the fuck OUT.

The GQP/US Taliban will REALLY be showing out then. Impeaching Biden, Harris and turning this country into what the Taliban is over there 👉🏻

Off-topic, why aren't Dems defending Biden? Where are they? I know some Squad members criticized Pres. Biden over his handling of Afghanistan, but are they also going to blame him for what happened in the courts today with this housing moratorium being struck down?

FoxNewsSucks

(10,429 posts)
15. They might be defending Biden
Thu Aug 26, 2021, 10:06 PM
Aug 2021

Probably are. But if it's not on TV . . .

Like the Progressive Caucus which proposed a balanced budget every year. No coverage, therefore no one knew.

Goodheart

(5,324 posts)
11. OK, seriously... how is upholding property rights "anti-Democratic"?
Thu Aug 26, 2021, 10:02 PM
Aug 2021

I think a better solution would have been for the government to pay rents for affected persons.

MichMan

(11,919 posts)
20. Orders direct from the CDC aren't exactly democratic either
Thu Aug 26, 2021, 10:24 PM
Aug 2021

The SC made it quite clear a couple months ago, and told congress to pass legislation if they wanted the moratorium to continue. No one should be surprised that they would reaffirm the previous ruling.

See attached post from Aug. 3 stating that even President Biden was fairly certain it would be overturned.

"Speaking at the White House on Tuesday, Biden said he pushed the CDC to again consider its options. But he still seemed hesitant as to whether the new moratorium could withstand lawsuits about its constitutionality, saying he has sought the opinions of experts as to whether the Supreme Court would approve the measure. “The bulk of the constitutional scholarship says that it’s not likely to pass constitutional muster,” Biden said. “But there are several key scholars who think that it may and it’s worth the effort.”

The president added that the moratorium — even if it gets challenged in court — “will probably give some additional time” for states and city to release billions of dollars in federal relief to renters. Politically, the extension could help heal a rift with liberal Democratic lawmakers who were calling on the president to take executive action to keep renters in their homes. The administration had spent the past several days scrambling to reassure Democrats and the country that it could find a way to limit the damage from potential evictions through the use of federal aid."



https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142779770

Goodheart

(5,324 posts)
8. Hate to say it, but I just don't see how the eviction moratorium was constitutional.
Thu Aug 26, 2021, 10:00 PM
Aug 2021

Maybe in some martial law national emergency sense, maybe. I applaud the try, though.

dsc

(52,161 posts)
12. I honestly did find the moratorium somewhat dubious
Thu Aug 26, 2021, 10:04 PM
Aug 2021

though a very short term one I could see passing muster. But the shadow docket has been a very real problem. The decision yesterday was outlandish. Literally Mexico could demand a trillion dollars from us to restart that program, and if the judge in Texas says a rejection of that isn't good faith, then we have to pay the trillion dollars or be found in contempt. They have also completely rewritten the law surrounding religious exemptions (at least in regards to COVID) with pretty much no explanation at all.

 

cinematicdiversions

(1,969 posts)
16. I Agree. I think it was a good emergency short term policy.
Thu Aug 26, 2021, 10:08 PM
Aug 2021

But it went on way too long bankrupting many in the middle class and distorting the housing market beyond any recognition.

It wasn't just unconstitutional, but at this point it was really bad policy.

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
29. of course it's constitutional
Fri Aug 27, 2021, 12:22 AM
Aug 2021

the Court didn't say it wasn't, they said Congress needs to reauthorize the law to extend the deadline.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
13. If they want to help people about to be evicted, get the federal money out for delinquent rent.
Thu Aug 26, 2021, 10:04 PM
Aug 2021

Sorry by those impacted by this ruling, but it's probably right at least legally, if not morally.

choie

(4,111 posts)
22. It's states like NY's fault
Thu Aug 26, 2021, 10:37 PM
Aug 2021

Their implementation of the Emergency Rent Program has been a complete disaster.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
25. Seems states' fault. I don't get the delay. You'd think Blue states want to help renters
Thu Aug 26, 2021, 11:00 PM
Aug 2021

and rube states would want to help landlords.

JohnSJ

(92,190 posts)
17. Where is the Maxine Waters bill to stop this. The Biden administration said the SC said this was up
Thu Aug 26, 2021, 10:08 PM
Aug 2021

to Congress

dsc

(52,161 posts)
18. I doubt we can get it through the House
Thu Aug 26, 2021, 10:10 PM
Aug 2021

and am dead certain we can't get it through the Senate.

Johnny2X2X

(19,064 posts)
19. The problem is they kept kicking the can
Thu Aug 26, 2021, 10:14 PM
Aug 2021

Down the road. 18 months with no evictions means there are 18 times the normal evictions for a month built up. So it’s going to be an incredible amount of people out over the next several weeks.

mvd

(65,173 posts)
21. Yes it is way too many people at once
Thu Aug 26, 2021, 10:34 PM
Aug 2021

I think it should be extended through to the end of the year. And if the 3 liberal judges found it Constitutional over the RWers, I am not arguing. We need more aid to get out also.

This crisis demands humanitarian policy.

Crunchy Frog

(26,582 posts)
30. Sounds like the court is taking over the function of the executive branch.
Fri Aug 27, 2021, 03:34 AM
Aug 2021

At least when the executive is a Democrat.

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