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dalton99a

(81,671 posts)
Thu Aug 26, 2021, 10:41 PM Aug 2021

FDA blocks sale of 55,000 flavored e-cigarette products

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/26/health/fda-blocks-ecig-products/index.html

FDA blocks sale of 55,000 flavored e-cigarette products
By Lauren Mascarenhas, CNN

(CNN) The US Food and Drug Administration blocked the sale of more 55,000 flavored e-cigarette products Thursday, its first ban of e-cigarette products since it began requiring makers to apply for premarket review last September.

The FDA issued marketing denial orders for the electronic nicotine delivery system (ENDS) products, saying they pose a public health threat to youth in the US. Of the more than 55,000 products impacted by the decision, those not yet being sold may not be introduced into the market, and those already on the market must be removed or risk enforcement.

Advocates complained the action did not cover big name products such as Juul, but the agency said more decisions are coming.

"Ensuring new tobacco products undergo an evaluation by the FDA is a critical part of our aim to reduce tobacco-related disease and death," said Acting FDA Commissioner Dr. Janet Woodcock. "We know that flavored tobacco products are very appealing to young people, therefore assessing the impact of potential or actual youth use is a critical factor in our decision-making about which products may be marketed."
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FDA blocks sale of 55,000 flavored e-cigarette products (Original Post) dalton99a Aug 2021 OP
They do realise that vaping reduces tobacco related deaths yes??????? cinematicdiversions Aug 2021 #1
Smoking tobacco can kill people. marie999 Aug 2021 #9
The post has nothing to do with smoking tobacco. It is about trying to avoid that by vaping. NT cinematicdiversions Aug 2021 #12
OMFG you've got to be kidding me ... Hugh_Lebowski Aug 2021 #2
Vape juice is SO simple to make...so so simple. ret5hd Aug 2021 #3
True ... But how to know what food flavorings are safe? Hugh_Lebowski Aug 2021 #4
Recipes are all over the internet. ret5hd Aug 2021 #5
What if coils and tanks and mods also get banned? nt Hugh_Lebowski Aug 2021 #6
This sentence says it all Withywindle Aug 2021 #7
Does this mean I won't be able to buy anymore vape juice? BlueLucy Aug 2021 #8
Slightly more difficult than... ret5hd Aug 2021 #10
Then get rid of flavored alcohol. LiberatedUSA Aug 2021 #11
 

cinematicdiversions

(1,969 posts)
1. They do realise that vaping reduces tobacco related deaths yes???????
Thu Aug 26, 2021, 10:47 PM
Aug 2021

This seems like the kind of decision that will cause more deaths not less.

 

marie999

(3,334 posts)
9. Smoking tobacco can kill people.
Fri Aug 27, 2021, 06:08 AM
Aug 2021

I read posts on DU that unvaccinated people should not be allowed in hospitals then the same should be for smokers who have cancer. And what about very obese people with heart problems or people hit by a car when crossing the street against the light or while texting.

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
2. OMFG you've got to be kidding me ...
Thu Aug 26, 2021, 10:53 PM
Aug 2021

Huge win for big cigarette companies if all anyone can get moving forward is way friggin expensive, crappy-ass products like JUUL and Vuse.

All such products are brands owned by the cigarette companies.

And they suck.

Fuck me.

ret5hd

(20,557 posts)
3. Vape juice is SO simple to make...so so simple.
Fri Aug 27, 2021, 01:30 AM
Aug 2021

VG
PG
Nicotine
Food flavorings of choice

All readily available and super cheap. Your costs will be nickels and dimes per week. You will know exactly what is in it.

This will be like outlawing rock candy but not sugar.

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
4. True ... But how to know what food flavorings are safe?
Fri Aug 27, 2021, 01:33 AM
Aug 2021

Also, will FDA crack down on people selling diluted nicotine as well? I could see it happening.

Also ... what if it's not just juice, but mods and coils and stuff?

ret5hd

(20,557 posts)
5. Recipes are all over the internet.
Fri Aug 27, 2021, 01:41 AM
Aug 2021

Maybe, I guess, they could require a license to buy nicotine…I don’t see that happening though. Gardeners use it.

Withywindle

(9,988 posts)
7. This sentence says it all
Fri Aug 27, 2021, 03:48 AM
Aug 2021

"Advocates complained the action did not cover big name products such as Juul, but the agency said more decisions are coming."


Of course. This isn't about protecting anybody. This is about going after indie shops and smaller businesses, and leaves Big Tobacco still free and clear selling the vape stuff THEY make. This is about protecting tobacco corporations' share of the dwindling market.

They might even get lots of people switching back to cigarettes, if they can't get the less harmful product (note I am NOT saying it's harmless. It is undeniably less harmful, and I'm big on harm reduction). That would be a win for them!

BlueLucy

(1,609 posts)
8. Does this mean I won't be able to buy anymore vape juice?
Fri Aug 27, 2021, 05:16 AM
Aug 2021

Damn! I'm not the make my own type of person.

ret5hd

(20,557 posts)
10. Slightly more difficult than...
Fri Aug 27, 2021, 06:32 AM
Aug 2021

fixing a bowl of cold breakfast cereal.

Slightly less difficult than fixing a bowl of hot breakfast cereal.

 

LiberatedUSA

(1,666 posts)
11. Then get rid of flavored alcohol.
Fri Aug 27, 2021, 07:13 AM
Aug 2021

This war on e-smokes is just a way to make sure smokers can’t quit so anti-smokers can continue yelling at them and tobacco can continue getting people hooked. If everyone finally quit by switching to e-cigs or e-cigars, the anti-smokers wouldn’t get their daily shaming fix and big tobacco would be out of cash.

What do we want? To shame smokers!

What do we not want? For them to quit!

What do we gotta do? Pretend e-smoking is the devil and pretend flavors for it are attractive to kids, while we don’t care about blue-raspberry flavored vodka!

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