I am so fucking sick of know-nothing talking heads telling me what Biden should do/have done

[Stinky The Clown]

Unhelpful, geniuses.

[Hekate]

1. What you said

[Lovie777]

2. Totally agreed . .

[True Blue American]

3. You are not alone!

[Vinca]

4. Me, too!!! I don't think I've heard 5 minutes of continual coverage on Afghanistan for the

last 20 years and now it's 24/7. They think Biden getting out is bad, but if he suddenly changed his mind they'd think that was bad. All I can figure is they're grasping for scandal since the Biden years aren't as "juicy" as the Trump years.

[LakeArenal]

7. Grasping for ratings. Sept is sweeps month I think.

[Skittles]

5. so maybe you should turn it off?

that's an idea

[Hugh_Lebowski]

13. I pretty much turned off cable news circa 2002 in the runup to Iraq

I couldn't take it anymore, and I find out (more than I really want to) about what the 'news' is saying just by being here all the time.

[Kaleva]

24. They won't because they actually enjoy it.

[Skittles]

26. I don't watch that stuff

too sickening

[Kaleva]

28. I don't either. I get almost all my news from DU

Where I can pick and choose what to read depending on my interest.

[BigmanPigman]

27. That's what I've done this week.

We do have choices. I won't watch their BS for ratings grab.

[MyOwnPeace]

8. Good for Joe!!!!!!

Standing by his convictions and beliefs - something that we're not used to seeing from politicians these days.

[frazzled]

9. Then you should read this

Ezra Klein, "Let’s Not Pretend That the Way We Withdrew From Afghanistan Was the Problem"

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/26/opinion/afghanistan-us-withdrawal.html

[Lulu Latech]

10. I'm sick of it too....

I would really like more covid coverage as it directly impacts my daily life. Although coverage of any military action is important the constant drone on and on and second guessing is so unhelpful and frankly I believe puts our troops in danger. The questioning during the news conferences is so repetitive and frankly just often ignorant.

[Hortensis]

11. I turned almost all off days ago, but no one should come here for updates on

what Democrats are doing and trying to do around the nation, instead. It's total immersion Afghanistan (and of course DU's baked in angry ranting about trumpists and anti-vaxxers). At some point the network heads will pivot away to another story -- of their choice and styled to serve their interests. Wash, rinse, repeat.

Right up to Tuesday, November 8, 2022.

Don't expect a break then. They're hard at work on suppressing and subverting the Democratic vote for 2024, at least on CNN and MSNBC. Fox and OAN are busy keeping the fires blazing under those viewers' asses.

[Evolve Dammit]

23. They do control the message for the vast majority of Americans. Then there's social media...

[Hortensis]

39. And, "Then there's social media." Yes. Apparently some watch

a Sunday morning show or shows, like Meet the Press, for their source of national news. Don't watch now, but then Trump was featured every Sunday, Hillary relatively seldom booked. MTP reminds me of this:

"Are we really going to be here for six straight months, six straight months of the two most unpopular people running for president, probably going down a low road, led by Trump — Clinton probably feeling, doing the same thing, and it’s sort of this race to the bottom?"

Chuck Todd, 2016, false-equating the Democratic candidate and party, with tRump and the Republicans. Hillary was actually polling very strong, and way out ahead -- huge problem.

[Evolve Dammit]

41. Chuck is ....not good. MSM brought us 45. They still cover him.

[Hortensis]

44. Yup. They want business-serving cons, but for now that means him. nt

[louslobbs]

12. Same here!

Thanks

[Polly Hennessey]

14. I check in just in case there is some truth in

the news (always hopeful). No, there they are again, teeth clicking, mouth open, words spitting out. Guess what? Not a minute worth listening to.

I was especially amused by the questions from the gaggle at the press conferences. Like listening to high school kids from the school paper. Loved the one about Major.

[Politicub]

15. You and me, both.

There are so many armchair hawks that make posts with a diarrhea of words saying what President Biden should do.

I can’t imagine the weight on Biden’s shoulders. I do trust his judgement, though.

[Hoyt]

16. Bet Obama says, "Joe, now you get why I didn't withdraw."

[PortTack]

20. ☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️

[Caliman73]

25. I hope not. That would decrease my respect for President Obama.

It implies that President Obama knew that we should withdraw, that it was the right thing to do, but that he didn't want to face the backlash that President Biden is facing and thus let the war drag on, costing soldiers' lives and a waste of money.

1. We will find, if we don't already know, that we should not have gone into Afghanistan. We certainly should not have stayed 20 years.
2. That we did stay 20 years and did not focus on creating a situation in Afghanistan where the government had to competence and confidence to ask us to leave, is another huge problem that we have to grapple with. This includes every President that was in office from 2001 to Trump. Biden just got stuck with the mess of pulling out.

[Hoyt]

29. Biden would have been smart and put more troops in, blaming it

on trump. Instead, people fell off a plane, several thousand prisoners escaped during chaos, 13 of our guys were killed, we angered Britain, Germany, France, etc., and it’s not over. The conflicting statements and pointing of fingers after the plane incident — among WH, military, intelligence, etc. — was embarrassing.

He should have listened to Hillary Clinton too.

[BumRushDaShow]

30. Biden knew

When the media characterized Obama's tan suit or handful of golf outings as what they felt amounted to unforced errors, then anything beyond that would be a virtual death sentence. It was bad enough how the media handled the reporting of the ACA legislative sausage-making and their general ho-hum dismissal of Obama actually getting Bin Laden, after they gave Shrub a pass for 8 years..

[gademocrat7]

17. Spot on, Stinky!

[BlueIdaho]

18. And that includes a whole list of show ponies

On MSNBC.

[dchill]

36. The day-siders are toeing the corporate line.

Two decades of losses but only the latest ones count. None of this is Biden's fault. In fact, it's more theirs than anyone else.

[RockRaven]

19. Those same babbling dumbasses spent the last 20 years telling us why whatever was being

done next was going to be the thing that fixed or stabilized things. And they were never correct. Why the fuck don't they have the dignity to be ashamed of their prior foolishness, and sit down?

[Johonny]

32. and the last 15 years ignoring the fact there was a war there

suddenly they give a shit.

[Joinfortmill]

21. I hear you.

[bdamomma]

22. That's why

Biden is President and their not. Thank God, I totally stand with President Joe.

[BeckyDem]

31. Same jerks that encouraged us to be there in the first place.

[MontanaMama]

33. I won't watch it.

tonight I’m enjoying baseball.

[hadEnuf]

34. Yes, getting really sick and tired of CNN's constant Biden bashing too.

Guess I expected too much from them. They can kiss my ass and their analysts can fuck off.

[soldierant]

35. Most of the media, and more to the point, most of their audeince

would not know what real leadership actually looks like even if it came to their doors and showed ID.

There are exceptions, of course. Several at MSNBC, Jim Acosta at CNN, probably others. But none of us has seen much for the last forty years ... and, when there was some to see, the vast majority were not looking.

[RayStar]

37. GOP

This needs to stop.

[Initech]

38. I literally do not give a fuck what Trump would have done.

And I'm sick of right wing assholes attempting to play armchair president. You don't know how you would have handled that situation either, so shut up.

[Kaleva]

40. If folks were sick of it, they'd stop watching but since they don't stop, they are not sick of it

[Elessar Zappa]

42. I don't watch any cable news.

I’ll catch CBS evening news and read the Washington Post. I also like the BBC.

[Stinky The Clown]

43. Let me tell you why you're wrong

There are other things in the world besides Afghanistan. Covid, evictions, voting rights, infrastructure, etc. Some of us want to know about all of that, too. So those who are interested to know consume news.

[Kaleva]

45. If you want expansive access to news, I suggest the internet.

I didn't watch any tv about Hurricane Ida. I just went to the internet.

IMO, tv can only give one snapshots of what's going on. For depth, one must go to numerous sources, considered to be reliable, on the internet.