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rustysgurl

(1,040 posts)
Sat Aug 28, 2021, 11:41 PM Aug 2021

My sister and bro-in-law are morons

I just heard from my sister, who is traveling with her husband on family business in another state. They started their trip uneventfully and are on their way back home. Sadly, my bro-in-law became sick and is getting worse. Bad cough, fever and screaming headache that won't respond to meds. Yep, in all likelihood COVID. Neither is vaccinated, despite my sister being a super-intelligent healthcare worker who knows how viruses and vaccines work. They are unrepentant evangelical conservatives and supported Trump even in the 2nd election.

Today I receive what would normally be a wonderful photo of my sister at a popular tourist attraction. The picture was taken by said very sick husband and it shows people walking around them. When I spoke with her I asked why they were at a tourist attraction when he was sick, she responded, "Well, we wore our masks." They had planned to spend the night with a friend but decided when the husband got sick that they would go to a hotel instead. My sister said, "I guess we'll take the chance of giving it to hotel staff rather than our friends." I was dumbfounded. How can anyone be so thoughtless?

So, they have checked into the hotel and my sister has asked her husband repeatedly if he wants to go to urgent care. Apparently he has refused and she told him that if he got much sicker it wouldn't be his choice. How heroic of her. That they can be so passive about this shocks me to no end.

That's all. I hope he doesn't have COVID. I hope he gets tested. And I hope by the grace of whatever that they manage to not kill anyone in their idiocy.

And this is how it spreads.

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My sister and bro-in-law are morons (Original Post) rustysgurl Aug 2021 OP
THIS Skittles Aug 2021 #1
I didn't go to the Right To Vote rally BigmanPigman Aug 2021 #5
What about the hotel staff they're exposing? Ocelot II Aug 2021 #2
Exactly what I thought rustysgurl Aug 2021 #3
Personally, I would notify the hotel about their potential exposure. Dan Aug 2021 #8
If I Knew Which Hotel They Were At I Would n/t rustysgurl Aug 2021 #13
Can you nicely get it out of your sister Beachnutt Aug 2021 #43
Absolutely. Treefrog Aug 2021 #48
Hotel staff are disposable dalton99a Aug 2021 #21
Exactly. XanaDUer2 Aug 2021 #56
Not just the staff, how about the next guests that use the room? ... aggiesal Aug 2021 #24
I am so sorry about that. madaboutharry Aug 2021 #4
Would it be ok if I hope her dumb-ass BIL is not ok? 3Hotdogs Aug 2021 #9
Exposing innocent people is unforgivable. madaboutharry Aug 2021 #20
I bet that the claim that they are USAFRetired_Liberal Aug 2021 #6
I am beginning to wonder how many sane people are left in this country. Irish_Dem Aug 2021 #7
Even if that number were 80%, and it's far from that DFW Aug 2021 #15
When I venture out and no one else is wearing a mask, it feels like 0% out there. Irish_Dem Aug 2021 #18
While I was in the States, I was fortunate enough not to visit anywhere like that DFW Aug 2021 #19
I am curious how masked up Europe is. Irish_Dem Aug 2021 #45
I live in a red town in a southern state. Treefrog Aug 2021 #49
I was traveling along a major interstate, fast food, truck stops, no masks at all. Irish_Dem Aug 2021 #50
I just got back Friday morning. DFW Aug 2021 #54
Stay safe! Irish_Dem Aug 2021 #55
Thanks! I intend to try! n/t DFW Aug 2021 #57
Follow up: DFW Aug 2021 #63
Wow, that is wonderful. Thank you DFW for the report. Irish_Dem Aug 2021 #66
Not very many. It's an absolute shit show, IMO. The ignorance, the howling hatred, the Nay Aug 2021 #58
I keep saying that America is experiencing a serious societal breakdown and Irish_Dem Aug 2021 #60
Your sister may be one of the "lucky" ones with an asymptomatic case. Her husband is in trouble. LonePirate Aug 2021 #10
Well... progressoid Aug 2021 #11
Update us if you wish to. sakabatou Aug 2021 #12
Your brother in law needs to start monoclonal antibodies as soon as possible LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2021 #14
+1 dalton99a Aug 2021 #22
Let them pray to Jesus OrangeJoe Aug 2021 #33
I'm sorry. Snackshack Aug 2021 #16
+1000 Duppers Aug 2021 #27
they should sleep in their fucking car orleans Aug 2021 #29
Definitely sounds like Covid. viva la Aug 2021 #17
I hope they don't have Covid MustLoveBeagles Aug 2021 #23
Outrageous, but not uncommon. JohnnyRingo Aug 2021 #25
She knows there's a flu vaccine too right? VMA131Marine Aug 2021 #28
My B-I-L told me today the government is sneaking COVID vaccine into flu shots. appleannie1 Aug 2021 #35
"unrepentant evangelical conservatives" - Protected/vaccinated by the blood of Jesus. keithbvadu2 Aug 2021 #26
Don't they think suicide sends you to hell? Beachnutt Aug 2021 #44
I would disown any family member who voted for him the 2nd time. Jon King Aug 2021 #30
i don't know what state they live in orleans Aug 2021 #31
Thankfully my sister and her husband are not capable of traveling further than church. appleannie1 Aug 2021 #32
I hope they won't be needing any karma, Corgigal Aug 2021 #34
So they're okay with risking the lives of hotel staff and their loved ones? liberalmuse Aug 2021 #36
Add unsuspecting future occupants of the hotel room and facilities... Hugin Aug 2021 #41
Dhey be da worst czarjak Aug 2021 #37
How disgustingly priveledged they are to go on their holiday LittleGirl Aug 2021 #38
Evangelical means you've rejected everything Jesus taught Kablooie Aug 2021 #39
Yep, and as George Carlin said, GoCubsGo Aug 2021 #46
I only have one living relative and up multigraincracker Aug 2021 #40
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2021 #42
And this is why I'm terrified of going out. babylonsister Aug 2021 #47
This is how it spreads. Baitball Blogger Aug 2021 #51
Takes some disinfecting wipes with you and I guess air the room out if you can. LisaL Aug 2021 #52
I am so very sorry that you are burdened with such hateful relatives. That they are so niyad Aug 2021 #53
Where are they having their meals? Heartstrings Aug 2021 #59
Welcome to narcissism TrogL Aug 2021 #61
Did you find out where they're staying? Treefrog Aug 2021 #62
They sound like some of my relatives misanthrope Aug 2021 #64
...unrepentant evangelical conservatives....And, there it is. 634-5789 Aug 2021 #65

Skittles

(153,160 posts)
1. THIS
Sat Aug 28, 2021, 11:44 PM
Aug 2021

people, this is why you should stay masked and socially distant and not go to any gatherings

because of fucking assholes LIKE THIS

BigmanPigman

(51,590 posts)
5. I didn't go to the Right To Vote rally
Sat Aug 28, 2021, 11:51 PM
Aug 2021

because of it. I haven't been to one in a year. I hate the maskholes with a passion!!!!!!!!!!!

Dan

(3,554 posts)
8. Personally, I would notify the hotel about their potential exposure.
Sat Aug 28, 2021, 11:55 PM
Aug 2021

It’s the decent thing to do, at the very least.

Beachnutt

(7,320 posts)
43. Can you nicely get it out of your sister
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 06:41 AM
Aug 2021

where they are staying ?
and call the hotel and tell them, one of the hotel staff may be pregnant or have children or an elderly parent etc...

aggiesal

(8,914 posts)
24. Not just the staff, how about the next guests that use the room? ...
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 12:22 AM
Aug 2021

If they get sick, they'll say, "We did everything right and we still got sick,
We didn't go to any large crowds or super spreader events."
"We don't know how we got covid."

And they're right, they won't know how they go it.

madaboutharry

(40,209 posts)
4. I am so sorry about that.
Sat Aug 28, 2021, 11:50 PM
Aug 2021

I am so grateful no one in my family is like that. I know people who have relatives like that and it is hard to deal with them.

I hope your BIL is ok. There are those here who have said harsh things about the unvaccinated, and I also think they are stupid selfish idiots who are endangering others, but I don’t want to wish bad things for anyone.

3Hotdogs

(12,374 posts)
9. Would it be ok if I hope her dumb-ass BIL is not ok?
Sat Aug 28, 2021, 11:58 PM
Aug 2021

Given the consideration they have about some poor fucks who happen to work in a hotel, I have little sympathy for them.

madaboutharry

(40,209 posts)
20. Exposing innocent people is unforgivable.
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 12:15 AM
Aug 2021

That is the thing that makes me angry too, they really are assholes.

I just can’t bring myself to wish a person dead.

Irish_Dem

(47,014 posts)
7. I am beginning to wonder how many sane people are left in this country.
Sat Aug 28, 2021, 11:53 PM
Aug 2021

Are there any people left with some sense of responsibility?

DFW

(54,370 posts)
15. Even if that number were 80%, and it's far from that
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 12:07 AM
Aug 2021

It would still be far too few for comfort.

DFW

(54,370 posts)
19. While I was in the States, I was fortunate enough not to visit anywhere like that
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 12:15 AM
Aug 2021

I just got back to Germany Friday. I have to visit about four other countries next week. I'll see how the locals are acting then.

Irish_Dem

(47,014 posts)
45. I am curious how masked up Europe is.
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 08:04 AM
Aug 2021

I recently traveled across three southern states and one midwestern states here in the US.
Very few masks anywhere to be seen. And in the southern states people seeing me wear a mask
resulted in hate glares from them. I had to travel for family issues, so stayed out of public as much as possible.
It was not safe on many levels.

 

Treefrog

(4,170 posts)
49. I live in a red town in a southern state.
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 09:37 AM
Aug 2021

Plenty of masks being worn, and nobody has ever “hate-glared” at me.

Of course, I pay no attention to strangers anyway.

Irish_Dem

(47,014 posts)
50. I was traveling along a major interstate, fast food, truck stops, no masks at all.
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 09:40 AM
Aug 2021

But in the interior of these states they are wearing masks.

Maybe they only glare at strangers and northerners.

DFW

(54,370 posts)
54. I just got back Friday morning.
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 10:26 AM
Aug 2021

I haven’t really been out much yet. Tomorrow the real world begins, and I’ll have a better idea.

DFW

(54,370 posts)
63. Follow up:
Mon Aug 30, 2021, 02:24 AM
Aug 2021

It is now almost 8:30 Monday morning. I am in a train headed west to Brussels, and we are just passing the German-Belgian border. It the train stations I was at, as well as in the trains, NO ONE was unmasked. Everyone is wearing one. Of course, they will toss you from the train at the next stop with cops waiting if you refuse to wear one, so anyone who has a serious desire to arrive at their destination wears a mask.

Irish_Dem

(47,014 posts)
66. Wow, that is wonderful. Thank you DFW for the report.
Mon Aug 30, 2021, 07:07 AM
Aug 2021

So this slice of Europe at least is acting like in a smart, responsible fashion. And the government is taking responsibility as well. Makes the US look silly and backward.

Nay

(12,051 posts)
58. Not very many. It's an absolute shit show, IMO. The ignorance, the howling hatred, the
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 11:55 AM
Aug 2021

thoughtlessness, the deliberate attempts to infect others with COVID (that's what that teacher was doing, and that traveling sister and BIL), the vicious racism and sexism, the leering mobs, the sneaky fucks with their masks under their noses --- it's all a sign. A bad sign. A sign that our society is actually breaking down in front of our eyes.

Irish_Dem

(47,014 posts)
60. I keep saying that America is experiencing a serious societal breakdown and
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 11:58 AM
Aug 2021

an end to the social contract.

Yes it is happening right in front of our eyes.

The GOP is causing it. Trump and Covid has revealed the extend of the GOP rot in our country.

And the Dems cannot believe what we are seeing. We cannot wrap our heads around it yet.

LonePirate

(13,419 posts)
10. Your sister may be one of the "lucky" ones with an asymptomatic case. Her husband is in trouble.
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 12:01 AM
Aug 2021

He better hope his body starts fighting back as hospitals across the country are filling up and he may be denied care if he seeks it.

progressoid

(49,988 posts)
11. Well...
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 12:04 AM
Aug 2021

I too have a family member who I thought was a "super-intelligent healthcare worker". I found our recently that she hadn't been vaccinated. Her cavalier attitude toward a deadly virus has made me reassess her intelligence.

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,176 posts)
14. Your brother in law needs to start monoclonal antibodies as soon as possible
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 12:07 AM
Aug 2021

It may already be too late for these drugs to be fully effective

OrangeJoe

(337 posts)
33. Let them pray to Jesus
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 01:25 AM
Aug 2021

They are Christians. They refused to get the vaccine, undoubtedly telling themselves that the man in the sky would protect them. So they should stick to their beliefs and refuse to take monoclonal antibodies and not clog up the hospital.

Snackshack

(2,541 posts)
16. I'm sorry.
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 12:08 AM
Aug 2021

…but your sister “being a super-intelligent healthcare worker who knows how viruses and vaccines work.”
is being horribly irresponsible and has no business being in the HC industry…especially if she said this…"I guess we'll take the chance of giving it to hotel staff rather than our friends." …only a person devoid of any empathy or conscience…a sociopath would have that thought process.

I am sorry you have to deal with that. I’m lucky I don’t. If anyone one in my family or friends was like that they would be PNG’d permanently.

orleans

(34,051 posts)
29. they should sleep in their fucking car
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 01:16 AM
Aug 2021

but since they obviously don't give a shit about other people (such as hotel employees) i'm sure they'll gladly go inside (maskless) and (if they have covid) thoughtlessly infect everyone in their path

viva la

(3,289 posts)
17. Definitely sounds like Covid.
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 12:09 AM
Aug 2021

I am trying not to say what I think of what they said about giving it to hotel staff.

JohnnyRingo

(18,628 posts)
25. Outrageous, but not uncommon.
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 12:32 AM
Aug 2021

I was at a cookout today and when I asked a relative if she got vaxxed, she started the whole "it's just a flu and everybody who gets it..." When I told her to stop.

VMA131Marine

(4,139 posts)
28. She knows there's a flu vaccine too right?
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 12:59 AM
Aug 2021

Because people also die from the flu. Not as many as COVID19 to be sure but the flu vaccine has saved a lot of lives.

appleannie1

(5,067 posts)
35. My B-I-L told me today the government is sneaking COVID vaccine into flu shots.
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 01:52 AM
Aug 2021

That is why they won't get one this year.

keithbvadu2

(36,788 posts)
26. "unrepentant evangelical conservatives" - Protected/vaccinated by the blood of Jesus.
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 12:33 AM
Aug 2021

"unrepentant evangelical conservatives" - Protected/vaccinated by the blood of Jesus.

The same blood of Jesus that lets people die from COVID.

Beachnutt

(7,320 posts)
44. Don't they think suicide sends you to hell?
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 06:48 AM
Aug 2021

You committ suicide when you know something will kill you and you do it anyway....

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
30. I would disown any family member who voted for him the 2nd time.
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 01:21 AM
Aug 2021

Sorry, if I had a family member who voted for him in 2020, it would be all over. Anyone who voted for him in 2020 was trying to overthrow democracy and destroy the climate and take away Obamacare, give our secrets to Putin, etc.

How anyone can associate in any way, shape, or form with a 2 time MAGA voter is beyond me. I would disown even a parent or sibling who did that.

They tried to destroy my kid's future, so why would I ever speak to them again?

orleans

(34,051 posts)
31. i don't know what state they live in
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 01:22 AM
Aug 2021

illinois gov is mandating health care workers get vaccines and has a deadline date. not sure, but he might have said if they don't want to get vaxxed they have to get tested (once or twice a week).

either way, if that bil has covid you should notify her place of employment and let them know so they can test her and send her home so she doesn't infect other staff or patients.

at least that is what i think i would do. then again, i don't have a sister.

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
34. I hope they won't be needing any karma,
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 01:36 AM
Aug 2021

because it seems like they already punched that ticket.

I’m sorry you’re going through this.

liberalmuse

(18,672 posts)
36. So they're okay with risking the lives of hotel staff and their loved ones?
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 01:55 AM
Aug 2021

Jesus Christ that's beyond vile. I've rarely if ever met an Evangelical who hadn't already willingly discarded their humanity and most of their functioning brain cells.

LittleGirl

(8,287 posts)
38. How disgustingly priveledged they are to go on their holiday
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 02:15 AM
Aug 2021

even though your BIL is sick with covid. I just can't with these people.

Kablooie

(18,632 posts)
39. Evangelical means you've rejected everything Jesus taught
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 02:34 AM
Aug 2021

And focus on self and tribalism.
While proclaiming Jesus loves you for it.

GoCubsGo

(32,080 posts)
46. Yep, and as George Carlin said,
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 08:13 AM
Aug 2021

If Jesus came back and saw what's being done in his name, he'd puke his guts out.

And, then he'd slap these people into oblivion for their callousness when it came to the hotel workers. WTF?

Response to rustysgurl (Original post)

babylonsister

(171,059 posts)
47. And this is why I'm terrified of going out.
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 08:28 AM
Aug 2021

We don't know if the maskless out there have been vaxxed. They might be trying to infect as many as possible; some seem more than capable of that (not talking about your family, rustysgurl, just in general).

niyad

(113,284 posts)
53. I am so very sorry that you are burdened with such hateful relatives. That they are so
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 10:22 AM
Aug 2021

lacking in awareness and decency is just so disheartening, and dangerous.

Heartstrings

(7,349 posts)
59. Where are they having their meals?
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 11:58 AM
Aug 2021

Are they not only endangering the hotel staff but servers as well?

My daughter is a server and this would infuriate her.

I certainly hope they tip extremely well….

TrogL

(32,822 posts)
61. Welcome to narcissism
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 02:17 PM
Aug 2021

If it doesn't directly affect them, they don't care.

Had a guy in my face saying he wasn't going to wear a mask or get vaccinated because the fatality rate was lower than some flus.

I attempted to make the point that if he did get sick, he'd be in hospital taking up an ICU bed making it unavailable for someone else having a heart attack or been in an accident.

He had no idea what I was talking about.

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