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cayugafalls

(5,640 posts)
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 06:23 PM Aug 2021

16 years ago in China, I met a future MAGAT, at the time he called himself a Neocon.

I was with my wife and son on a day trip to the Great Wall. We had a wonderful day eating and meeting new friends as we made our way to the destination. On our way to the Great Wall, my wife took the time to teach me the one simple phrase that would spare me the constant harassment of the many vendors leading up to the entrance, bù yào. "Not Want" in Mandarin.

While the phrase did help, many of the vendors spoke fairly good English and lots of them said I was being tricky and obviously had just learned that phrase. They were right and I winked at them knowingly, always with a smile and stopping once to make a small purchase at one vendor. I got a minor token and tipped generously, which my wife immediately admonished me for since we had to make the gauntlet on the way back down and word would spread of the generous Gweilo.

We got to the wall and my son took off and began the 10,000 or so steps to the top of the wall at this particular area. It was a well known part of the wall to the north of Beijing. When I say 10,000 steps, I am not exaggerating...my son was way ahead of me and it damn near killed me trying to keep up and not lose sight of him, lol.

View from the top


On the way home we were tired, but still full of excitement, talking with all our new found friends. One fellow, asked me if there was any truth to the story that the election was stolen and Al Gore should have won. I began to explain the whole debate and discuss all the theories of the day (as there were many). The Chinese fellow was very polite and well informed. A gentleman from Paris joined into the discussion as well. At one point I made the comment that the Republican party was known for trying any trick in the book to win, even if it meant cheating.

Well, little did I know that future MAGAT had been listening the whole time and he could no longer take anymore. An American turned toward me and shouted, "Hey, you should watch what you say about America in a foreign country. It is unpatriotic to talk that way to foreigner's. The election was not stolen, there is no proof."

I looked at the man and could see immediately that he was a Neocon Christian Republican. He had a 2 inch gold circular pendant with Jesus on the cross. My new friends and I were stunned. I looked at this man and said.

"There is plenty of proof, you just have to look." He got angry and said, "Just stop talking about our country like that, you're an American, have some pride and show a better image."

I shot back, "Funny, an American in China, telling another American to be silent...mind your own business." Well, this pissed him off and he told me to shut up, but just sat there fuming after that remark.

I turned to my new friends and ignored the MAGAT wannabe and said, "This is why Al Gore conceded the election, he felt that to further challenge the election and get to the bottom of the fraud would damage our democracy as there needs to be a peaceful transition of power and the right does not believe in peace."

My new friends just nodded in agreement and we moved on to discuss the day of wonder and fun.

So that is my story of the day a MAGAT tried to silence me in China. The Chinese people are truly a beautiful people and everyone I met was extremely generous and kind. All of them wanted to know more about democracy and freedom of speech. I gladly talked to anyone who would listen. Never fear, the rest of the world knows the truth, MAGATs are evil and democracy is tenuous.

We must hold fast. We must never let them win.

cayugafalls

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16 years ago in China, I met a future MAGAT, at the time he called himself a Neocon. (Original Post) cayugafalls Aug 2021 OP
干得好!n/t Moebym Aug 2021 #1
謝謝 cayugafalls Aug 2021 #8
K&R! ProfessorGAC Aug 2021 #2
K&R MustLoveBeagles Aug 2021 #3
Thanks. Good story, and I agree democracy is tenuous. brush Aug 2021 #4
We really need this to happen. cayugafalls Aug 2021 #7
Great story. We were there 30 years ago this month. rsdsharp Aug 2021 #5
I agree, we were lucky to not be there during the summer. cayugafalls Aug 2021 #6
I literally crawled up the last several steps to the guard house, rsdsharp Aug 2021 #10
K&R smirkymonkey Aug 2021 #9
wow! amazing experience, cayugafalls! THANKS! bluboid Aug 2021 #11
Good On You!! DemUnleashed Aug 2021 #12
Actually, in my travels, it is the magats that are hated. cayugafalls Aug 2021 #13
I... DemUnleashed Aug 2021 #14

brush

(53,776 posts)
4. Thanks. Good story, and I agree democracy is tenuous.
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 06:52 PM
Aug 2021

Ours is on the brink, but if Joe can get the two infrastructure bills and a carve-out for the John Lewis voting right bill passed, we should keep the House and Senate in the mid-terms.

If not, I hate to think about it as the magats already stole SCOTUS seats and have a 6-3 majority there.

rsdsharp

(9,170 posts)
5. Great story. We were there 30 years ago this month.
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 07:01 PM
Aug 2021

Your picture has a date of November. Try the 10,000 steps in August, with both the temperature and humidity in the 90s. Our tour bus had parked by a small store about a quarter mile from the wall. As we walked back toward the bus along the narrow road, we found ourselves pressed back against a retaining wall on our right as two large Mercedes limos raced by at about 60 mph.

We had no idea why until we got back to the hotel in Beijing and turned on the TV. Our hotel, the Holiday Inn Lido, had TV service that got a raw feed from CNN. That was when we found out the coup attempt against the Gorbachev government in the Soviet Union. That, in turn explained why the day before our flight from Xian had been delayed five hours, and we landed at a military air field outside Beijing, instead of the regular airport.

I agree about the Chinese people. Everywhere we went, people were friendly and curious. I have a very clear memory of a guy in Shanghai giving us the thumbs up and saying, “USA number 1.”

cayugafalls

(5,640 posts)
6. I agree, we were lucky to not be there during the summer.
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 07:13 PM
Aug 2021

I probably would have keeled over as I literally did not stop until the top, my young son was sprinting up the steps without a care in the world.

rsdsharp

(9,170 posts)
10. I literally crawled up the last several steps to the guard house,
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 07:38 PM
Aug 2021

and I was almost blind because I had so much sweat running in my eyes.

cayugafalls

(5,640 posts)
13. Actually, in my travels, it is the magats that are hated.
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 08:31 PM
Aug 2021

The rest of the world does know that most of America is open and kind.

A few bad apples...let's hope we can get rid of them someday.

DemUnleashed

(633 posts)
14. I...
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 09:09 PM
Aug 2021

I do hope you're right, cayugafalls...I'm glad to hear that you don't think people in other countries don't clump us all in with the MAGATS!

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