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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAfter TFG's Surrender The Withdrawal Was About As Good As It Could Have Been - Period
Sure, if we knew the Afghans had pre-surrendered, and would flee, we would have done things differently.
The Taliban isn't shooting at us, and we aren't shooting at them. Like that isn't a big deal?
All the pearl clutching over the ending of the 2nd largest clusterf*ck in US history is disappointing.
Surrender isn't pretty.
Sometimes people need to just grow up, seriously.
Considering the 20 year nightmare, I give the administration a lot of credit for ending it as they did, as well as they could.
Zero information from the turnover, and god knows if Pompeo shared what his deal really was. We had 250,000 paid informants and none of them let us know the Tet Offensive was coming. History repeats.
Cutting the Afghan Government out of the surrender deal was 100 times as bad as anything that went wrong with the withdrawal.
And to hell with the MIC influenced media complaining because their multi-trillion dollar boondoggle is ending. No more $$$$ for them is truly disappointing the way they, and their paid mouthpieces see it.
I just hope the troops who suffered through 20 years of trying to "manage" Afghanistan, and the immediate withdrawal get all the credit they deserve. I thank our troops from the bottom of my heart.
It is what it is. America needs to deal with it. Good luck with that. We got politics to play.
secondwind
(16,903 posts)brer cat
(24,562 posts)President Biden showed leadership and courage in getting us out. I have no doubt the deaths are weighing heavily on him, but any alternative would be worse. Twenty years was too long, and trump's surrender left him with few choices.
DanieRains
(4,619 posts)My money is on it was Putin's idea. With only a few troops we couldn't even defend them, much less anything else.
Regardless what happened, Biden or TFG would be facing embarrassment.
Putin is not dumb.
Walleye
(31,017 posts)agingdem
(7,849 posts)Shock and Awe...in/out/no casualties...the media was wetting itself in anticipation but when Shock and Awe morphed into Oh Shit the media had no clue how to cover this catastrophic clusterfuck..20 years later they still don't...
And like so much else they did, it was a complete failure.
brewens
(13,582 posts)I'm seeing the flag humping FG followers really pour it on over these 13. Not the 13 before that, or the 13 before that though. There will be another 13 and then another if we let those responsible for the 2300 plus dead have there way.
They didn't sign up for it, but dying to defend Eric Princes cash flow is about as honorable as being stuffed head first down an outhouse hole.
Walleye
(31,017 posts)gab13by13
(21,323 posts)the narrative they push is coordinated. Cable news is controlled by the right.
President Biden did the right thing, the brave thing, that will never be the narrative on cable news. I am going for a drive today and turning on some Sirius radio to relax and get the news.
dweller
(23,629 posts)Everything should start with that
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Baitball Blogger
(46,703 posts)Our soldiers aren't caught up in battle fights to make it to the helicopters.
And the number of evacuees will tell the story in the end.