Biden Sent Hundreds Of Ambulances And Millions Of Meals And Liters Of Water Before Ida Hit

[babylonsister]

https://www.politicususa.com/2021/08/29/hurricane-ida-biden.html

Posted on Sun, Aug 29th, 2021 by Jason Easley
Biden Sent Hundreds Of Ambulances And Millions Of Meals And Liters Of Water Before Ida Hit


Competent and prepared President Biden sent hundreds of ambulances, millions of meals, and liters of water before Hurricane Ida arrived.

FEMA gave a list to reporters of supplies as provided to PoliticusUSA:

200 ambulances

139k tarps (includes tarps sent to Mississippi)

3.5 million meals (includes meals sent to Mississippi)

2.5 million liters of water

22 federal agencies are supporting the effort.

Millions more meals and liters of water are on their way.

President Biden pledged to put the country’s full might behind the rescue and recovery from Hurricane Ida:

Sarah Reese Jones
@PoliticusSarah
Biden pledges to put, "the country's full might behind the rescue and recovery" after Hurricane Ida passes. https://t.co/uyVDiEuLX4
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4:43 PM · Aug 29, 2021

President Biden isn’t sitting in the Oval Office changing hurricane paths with Sharpies. He isn’t going to FEMA to sell baseball caps or stealing money from FEMA just before a hurricane arrives.

This is what presidential leadership looks like.

Previous Republican presidents like George W. Bush and Donald Trump failed to lead as American citizens lost their lives in natural disasters.

President Biden is managing both a dangerous withdrawal from Afghanistan and a life-threatening, historic hurricane in the Gulf.

Biden isn’t just walking and chewing gum as the political cliché goes. He is saving lives both at home and abroad with true presidential leadership.

[hlthe2b]

1. That is great. But, I have to wonder where, exactly those ambulances were to transport people...

There is essentially no capacity left, even if local hospitals manage to keep generators running.

I think it is likely that multiple field hospitals may be necessary manned by National Guard, even if there is not major hurricane trauma-- just to deal with the additional COVID-19.

Hoping for the best...

[jaxexpat]

7. I suppose that's exactly the point of those ambulances.

The best/only way to move critical patients to functional facilities in other cities en masse is by the highway.

[hlthe2b]

17. There are no essentially NO hospitals with facilities to transport to. Highways or no.

Not in Louisiana, Texas, Arkansas, Mississippi, Alabama. Where, if there are mass casualties do you think those ambulances will go? The ones that are full are largely on generators now.

[treestar]

33. Is that true? How can there be no hospitals

over such a large area? The hurricane is not THAT big.

Maybe you should inform FEMA that they don't need to send ambulances.

[hlthe2b]

35. COVID_19... I'm talking ICU beds. BEFORE the storm. They knew it, and are praying

generators hold for those without power. They couldn't evacuate patients because they had nowhere to evaucate them to. Check the hospital capacity data if you doubt it (NYT). I have colleagues in all four most affected states. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/covid-cases.html

The Governor earlier:

The governor also said 22 nursing homes and 18 assisted living facilities have been evacuated, though evacuating the largest hospitals was not an option because there simply aren’t other places to send them. Anticipating that power could be out for weeks in places, Edwards said a big focus will be on making sure there is enough generator power and water at hospitals so they can keep up with vital patient needs such as providing oxygen or powering ventilators.

https://apnews.com/article/hurricane-ida-hospitals-5f68dc3f11842ad3b2effbc5d202ffb4

also
https://www.wwno.org/news/2021-08-28/hospitals-across-the-gulf-south-brace-for-hurricane-ida-amid-covid-surge

And had you bothered to read my full post, I indicated the hope they have preplanned some field hospitals. ERs will try to see those initial patients but for those requiring hospitalization, they are likely to have big problems.

If we are lucky, most will have safely evacuated and direct storm casualties may be more limited. But we still have COVID-19 surging so, it isn't as though they won't be overwhelmed regardless.

[Mr.Bill]

44. Field hospitals can be set up amazingly fast.

They can do it after the weather clears a bit. Wouldn't make much sense setting up a tent hospital when expecting 140 mph winds.

[hlthe2b]

46. The hope is that they pre-identified warehouses & other buildings and pre-placed

some of the equipment. Tents are not an option in post-hurricane flood zones.

[jaxexpat]

38. Why would facilities in Houston, Beaumont, Shreveport, Dallas, Memphis etc. be on generators?

Are all the beds taken in those places? Do you know that they are? I know that in western KY there are beds still available Though 10% to 20% of patients there are covid. I wonder if the same to be true of Tennessee.
Are you certain the ambulances were unnecessary after all?

[hlthe2b]

39. I didn't say all hospitals were using generators. They are full of COVID.

That is why the ones who are on generators could not transfer their critical patients ahead of time. As the LA Governor likewise warned in his statement that I posted previously and again in the link below. What part of that is so hard for you to understand? Really? Hospitals as far as Houston, in other areas of Texas, LA, AR, AL, MI are overloaded with COVID. By the way, if you read your own Kentucky newspapers they have been reporting on overloaded ICUs for weeks now, as has your governor. Tennesse, still dealing from its last horrific flooding is in the direct path of major flooding from IDA--its hospitals are likewise full of COVID, but how you think LA is going to transport its overflow to Memphis, given the state of road, flooding, and all else they have going on now, and get the most critical care within the next 24-36 hours escapes me--via these EMS ambulances. Please expound on this plan.

They haven't even been able to transport overloaded ICU COVID patients PRE-HURRICANE to other overcrowded hospitals in the region. Atlanta hospitals, FL hospitals are likewise at capacity and undergoing frequent temporary diversions or closure to new patients. Even Atlanta's Grady Hospital has had to do so.

As I stated previously...

Since you know more than the Governor of LA, ( https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=15798913 ) you can verify this for yourself with the hospitalization data on the NYT website.

[jaxexpat]

41. As of last Thursday Ky had 20% ICU units available. There's probably less now.

Some of those available units won't be used at all if there isn't an effort to move patients from overcrowded ICU's to less crowded. It'll come to that and then, at last, even that will not provide adequate rooms for ventilating people. Then it'll be triage as the norm at every emergency room door. Those tents you mentioned will be everywhere, hurricane of not, as terminal (don't) care stations.

I'm to see a surgeon this pm, myself. We'll discuss my survivability in light of the fact that, apparently, all(?) surgery has been canceled until the middle of September here in dunny FL. But then who knows. You're probably right. It was stupid of the federal government to try to drive ambulances to Louisiana on impassable roads to just get in the way of the generator maintenance and repairmen. Especially since the governor had already said there was no place on god's green earth to send those poor hospitalized patients. Maybe the EMT's can help the governor set up his tents in their spare time. Then they could just back them up to openings in those tents and you have instant, though crowed, ICU's. and don't forget to reroute the exhausts on those units. but then, carbon monoxide may turn out to actually neutralize covid. if there was only some way to inject it.....hmmmmm.

I wonder if Medicare insurance covers triage fees as "consultation" and is there a copay? Again, you're probably right. You've apparently had some extensive experience with the limitations of American health care facilities.

[FailureToCommunicate]

16. Plus, each ambulance is like a mini trauma ward on wheels.

[hlthe2b]

19. Hardly. They need to transport them SOMEWHERE.

[FailureToCommunicate]

21. Hmmm. Maybe you haven't seen the inside of a modern ambulance.

And the EMTs manning them aren't just Uber drivers.

[hlthe2b]

25. LOLOL. Only every day I've worked the past decades. Good for stabilization.

Bad for long-term treatment. And trying to make them otherwise renders them useless for mass casualties.

[FailureToCommunicate]

26. Okay. Well, "stabilization" is likely the immediate need here after the storm, no?

Better than no ambulance and EMTs available.

And then, couldn't they transport casualties to a less affected medical center?

[hlthe2b]

27. Again. Where are they going to transport them to? Oxygen, blood replacement substitutes, drugs

are limited and many will be manned by EMTs, rather than paramedics thus requiring already overwhelmed ER docs to try to oversee care by phone and radio. Been there, done that... They will do the best they can, certainly, but they need to get them transported somewhere. I would like to think emergency management has identified locations for possible field hospitals in coordination with National Guard and that may be something that could be quickly implemented. Ambulances need to transport, not substitute for hospitals.

[FailureToCommunicate]

29. Thank you for the work you do/have done.

[hlthe2b]

30. I assure you I share you worries and respect for all trying to deal with this. I wish all the best.

If it were not for COVID-19 overwhelming the region, I'd be far more optimistic that they could effectively address it. What a cruel irony...

[Auggie]

36. Thinking the same thing. Ambulances add versatility to emergency response.

[forgotmylogin]

32. Worst case scenario, the ambulances have supplies and can treat minor/moderate injuries.

They could set them up near affected areas as first aid and communication stations via radio.

[Walleye]

2. And he's doing it under withering criticism by opponents, friends, and the press

[Atticus]

3. What? No paper towels? And, why didn't he nuke the storm? nt

[Effete Snob]

4. Why liters instead of gallons?

This is America! People drink gallons, not liters. Liters are for socialists!

[usaf-vet]

10. Unique idea send necessary supplies in ahead of the storm. Who would have thought? Not GQP party.

[Betty88]

11. People can also drink liters, take two.

[Effete Snob]

28. The bottle openers aren't metric!

[Dream Girl]

14. That's easy, liters are Marxist and socialist.

And communist.

[IronLionZion]

24. Dems can take the socialist liters

Repubs can wait for freedom gallons if they want. That's their American right.

[questionseverything]

51. Lol

[SheltieLover]

5. He also sent power team (s) for temporary power AHEAD of Ida

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215797463

[NCjack]

6. But, but ... those are RED states! They should have had to beg publicly

for US Gov assistance.

[betsuni]

8. K&R

[Solly Mack]

9. K&R

[sarge43]

12. "....promote the General Welfare..."

Thank you, Mr President

[niyad]

13. KNR

[justhanginon]

15. A competent administration shows how it's done.

[bucolic_frolic]

18. "the country's full might" that is how you deliver competent government!!!

TFG would have sent horse pills and a box truck of formerly frozen fish cakes because he's so cheap when he thinks he's spending billioinaires' money even though they pay almost zero taxes.

[George II]

20. Sure beats "you're doing a heck of a job, Brownie!"

[Dopers_Greed]

22. Predictably the M$M is focusing on...

How big of a crisis this is for Biden personally.

Not reporting on what he's doing to handle it.

[malaise]

23. He was ready for this the week before the hurricane season began

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215798763

[Takket]

31. And the media will destroy him and try to make this look like Katrina 2.0

[LaMouffette]

34. The only thing Biden is doing wrong is being too humble about all the good that he has done.

He and the DNC need to take this one lesson from Biden's idiot predecessor: If you do something good, make sure everyone KNOWS you did it. Tell them over and over and over that you did it.

I know that Joe Biden is too gracious and humble to toot his own horn the way TFG did it, but it should be constantly pointed out to Americans what a vastly better president, and human being, Joe is in comparison to Traitor Trump.

[CousinIT]

37. Biden didn't suggest 'nuking' the hurricane either.

https://www.axios.com/trump-nuclear-bombs-hurricanes-97231f38-2394-4120-a3fa-8c9cf0e3f51c.html

If ANYBODY who supports Republicans and was silent while their cult leader Trump committed these and many other atrocities think THEY have any standing to call any other POTUS senile or incompetent after supporting Trump - THEY DON'T.

ZERO standing. ZILCH. NOTHING. NO standing. AT. ALL. Not here. Not ANYWHERE.

Pretentious hypocrisy is their indelible hallmark and chronic, incurable STUPID is their affliction.

That they love flaunting that like a neon T-shirt now is - well....interesting. There is a word for that: the Dunning-Kruger Effect. Donald J. Trump suffered from this and so do many of his cult followers. https://www.verywellmind.com/an-overview-of-the-dunning-kruger-effect-4160740

[malaise]

40. Biden will be speaking on this later today

Competence matters

[Grasswire2]

42. I just realized that I have heard nothing about the Red Cross lately.

Didn't they used to respond to disasters?

Are they less of a resource than previously?

[Blue Owl]

43. K&R

[Corgigal]

45. Cause we voted in a president

who presidents.

[malaise]

47. Did you watch that briefing from FEMA with the President, the two

governors and other relevant folks. It was impressive - no obnoxious, braggadocios behavior from the President. It's nice to see competence and decency.

[Corgigal]

48. Actually I did today,

so nice to hear . Gonna help the help those people quicker. No red state, just a state that needs help. Grown people, sometimes we rock.

[malaise]

49. He also said that on May 24 when he increased the FEMA budget days before the hurricane season began

Refreshing

[MustLoveBeagles]

50. K&R