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JohnSJ

(92,482 posts)
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 04:53 PM Aug 2021

Could the evacuation have been handled better? Probably, but I think the only way that

could have been done is if we added significantly more troops, and extended the deadline indefinitely. Obviously we sure could not depend on the Afghan government or army, and it would be naive to assume that the so-called “low risk” operation would not become hot very fast

We would be fighting the Taliban, because we would have to disregard trump’s agreement with them, and also fighting ISIS-K, and who knows what else

If what the President said is true, that we told Afghans and Americans months before to evacuate, but it wasn’t until the last two weeks when that really happened when the hard deadline was set,
I think that implies that the reality of the hard deadline was the motivating factor, along with the realization that that deadline was not going to be change for the evacuation

Even listening to some of the reporters that bears out. They were saying the Afghans didn’t really believe it when trump negotiated the deal with the Taliban, and they didn’t believe it when Biden said it would happen.

I think human nature procrastinates until they finally can’t

I have seen that in the workplace where layoffs were announced, with the WARN act, and people had trouble grasping that until it happened





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Could the evacuation have been handled better? Probably, but I think the only way that (Original Post) JohnSJ Aug 2021 OP
ouf course it could have been handled better Skittles Aug 2021 #1
100% agree!!! Nt USALiberal Aug 2021 #6
The point of the evacuation was to get out. DURHAM D Aug 2021 #2
+1 chowder66 Aug 2021 #5
Yeah people could have left when they were told to Fullduplexxx Aug 2021 #3
+1 chowder66 Aug 2021 #4
The U.S. government had reached out nineteen (19) times since March dalton99a Aug 2021 #7
The military may have originally planned moondust Aug 2021 #8
I really dont see what specifically could have been done differently, honest.abe Aug 2021 #9
It is easy to predict what happens today, tomorrow JohnSJ Aug 2021 #10
Indeed. honest.abe Aug 2021 #11

Skittles

(153,243 posts)
1. ouf course it could have been handled better
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 04:56 PM
Aug 2021

they should have known the Afghan military was NEVER going to be in control - jeez, what does TWENTY YEARS OF TRAINING tell anyone???

DURHAM D

(32,617 posts)
2. The point of the evacuation was to get out.
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 04:57 PM
Aug 2021

We did that. We evacuated an extraordinary number of people.

However, we did not meet the needs of the press. So, fuck them.



dalton99a

(81,656 posts)
7. The U.S. government had reached out nineteen (19) times since March
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 05:35 PM
Aug 2021

to tell American citizens in Afghanistan to leave ASAP

Let them find their own way back


moondust

(20,018 posts)
8. The military may have originally planned
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 06:26 PM
Aug 2021

to evacuate "x" number of people and set up the dates to allow them time to evacuate that many. Then when the army and government unexpectedly collapsed that "x" number may have suddenly become maybe "20x" due to many more Afghans who now desperately wanted to escape the Taliban.

I don't know that but it may be a possible explanation.

Of course the evacuation may not be over and may in the future include land routes to bordering countries that are being encouraged to act as transit points.

honest.abe

(8,687 posts)
9. I really dont see what specifically could have been done differently,
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 06:30 PM
Aug 2021

Perhaps convincing more people to evacuate before leaving. Most didnt want to go because they thought the Afghan army would hold. Not sure how to force to them to leave against their will.

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