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(32,762 posts)Still couldnt win
Lets hope this is a bellwether for the midterms
jaysunb
(11,856 posts)Shenanigans over vote integrity, and it's already begun. The Elder campaign has already issued statements claiming that the vote by mail has been rigged 🙄
Retrograde
(10,136 posts)It looks good if you believe the polls, but we won't know until Sept. 14 at the earliest.
Mine own definitely unscientific survey of a bunch of White, suburban women in their 60s and 70s indicates 100% NO, but my data may be skewed
cally
(21,593 posts)Polls look good but lets not celebrate until votes are counted
Initech
(100,068 posts)Because you know the MAGA shitheads are going to scream voter fraud the second they don't win. Fuck 'em.
BigmanPigman
(51,590 posts)was a basket-case move. Why would any party who really wants to win support a candidate like that idiot. I think just about every other GQP on the ballot is better than that fucking moron...another TV/radio host who has zero experience in governing.
monkeyman1
(5,109 posts)StatWoman
(518 posts)It's the voters. As individuals, they supported Elder, and then his front-runner status attracted more people. Elder is the Trumpiest, and therefore he is the winning-est to right-wing voters.
I suspect the party itself would rather see Faulconer or even Cox, who sound something like normal human beings. But maybe not -- the California Republican Party has been pretty bat-guano for at least a couple of decades now.
BigmanPigman
(51,590 posts)too. He is GOP more than GQP, as is Cox. They seem to be some of the more mentally stable on the GQP list of candidates so of course they don't get the attention from the crazies in CA. It really is like the "sane vs insane" these days. It's not so much about party but more to do with your mental state. We have fallen far down the rabbit hole.
StatWoman
(518 posts)Yeah, I've taken to referring to this -- all of this strangeness and violence on the right, but especially since Trump was elected -- as mass psychosis. And I'm not engaging in hyperbole; I mean it clinically. I think there's a fundamental break from reality in a distressingly huge fraction of the population, worldwide.
I was discussing this with an old friend a few weeks ago, and he referred to it as a modern Ghost Dance. So many people have lost at the game of life, or believe they have. Some drink or take opiates. But many take refuge in a scenario in which they, the true believers, will emerge victorious if they follow the right rituals.
(The thing is, Trump touched on a truth when he told them things were rigged against them. He could have be a great president if he had actually done something to help them. They still don't realize that it was all bait-and-switch to give more tax breaks to billionaires.)
StatWoman
(518 posts)It's not over. Polls aren't elections. People are still voting. The last thing we need is complacency about the outcome. Have we forgotten the lessons of 2016?
SleeplessinSoCal
(9,112 posts)Still a ray of sunshine on a cloudy day.
Rhiannon12866
(205,320 posts)dchill
(38,485 posts)Way to be like.
Hekate
(90,674 posts)I just read that some of my fellow Californians are whining that theyll leave the state if Newsom beats the recall. If only they would!