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Tue Sep 14, 2021, 10:09 PM

@DanRather The Rule of Trump: No matter how bad you think it is. It's worse. Much worse.

Show and sweet. Rather is spot on. t

I also think that Gen. Milley should gone public with the fact he was trying to protect nuclear weapons from Trump who was mentally deteriorating fast.




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The Rule of Trump: No matter how bad you think it is. It’s worse. Much worse. As in a dumpster fire inside of a nuclear reactor worse.



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Reply @DanRather The Rule of Trump: No matter how bad you think it is. It's worse. Much worse. (Original post)
riversedge Sep 14 OP
malaise Sep 14 #1
spanone Sep 14 #2
Hortensis Sep 14 #3
Stuart G Sep 14 #4
LudwigPastorius Sep 14 #5
fescuerescue Sep 15 #47
LudwigPastorius Sep 15 #49
slightlv Sep 14 #6
onecaliberal Sep 14 #9
smirkymonkey Sep 15 #24
Farmer-Rick Sep 15 #32
Pepsidog Sep 15 #44
UpInArms Sep 14 #7
Grokenstein Sep 14 #14
UpInArms Sep 14 #15
llmart Sep 15 #33
czarjak Sep 15 #20
Boomerproud Sep 15 #27
UpInArms Sep 15 #28
Lonestarblue Sep 15 #30
ProfessorGAC Sep 15 #56
spike jones Sep 15 #34
Evolve Dammit Sep 15 #37
Liberty Belle Sep 14 #8
Ilsa Sep 15 #39
Texaswitchy Sep 15 #45
LetMyPeopleVote Sep 14 #10
NH Ethylene Sep 15 #18
Moebym Sep 15 #21
wnylib Sep 15 #57
smirkymonkey Sep 15 #25
SergeStorms Sep 15 #42
fescuerescue Sep 15 #48
SergeStorms Sep 15 #50
Evolve Dammit Sep 15 #38
Blue Owl Sep 14 #11
toughtony Sep 14 #12
Duppers Sep 14 #17
Farmer-Rick Sep 15 #35
Evolve Dammit Sep 15 #40
SergeStorms Sep 15 #43
luvtheGWN Sep 15 #53
GoCubsGo Sep 14 #13
NH Ethylene Sep 15 #19
BobTheSubgenius Sep 14 #16
calimary Sep 15 #22
Hekate Sep 15 #23
Cha Sep 15 #26
argyl Sep 15 #29
obamanut2012 Sep 15 #31
argyl Sep 15 #41
Grins Sep 15 #36
musclecar6 Sep 15 #46
lambchopp59 Sep 15 #52
BSdetect Sep 15 #51
Dukkha Sep 15 #54
LiberatedUSA Sep 15 #55
Stuart G Sep 15 #58

Response to riversedge (Original post)

Tue Sep 14, 2021, 10:11 PM

1. Get thee to the greatest page

RFN!

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Tue Sep 14, 2021, 10:14 PM

2. K&R

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Tue Sep 14, 2021, 10:19 PM

3. Yes. And no matter how bad you believe his influence on

his followers is, they're worse.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Tue Sep 14, 2021, 10:21 PM

4. i think we have just seen the first part...Much More to Come...(in my opinion)

....Some things Trump did were illegal..So trials may come, and riots as a result of Trump doing what he does
as a result of trials. But who knows?? It is all the future. So, It won't be the first time I am wrong..& not the last...

................ ...Oh I agree with above post...followers are worse....

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Tue Sep 14, 2021, 10:34 PM

5. Somebody (not the historians 20 years hence) needs to review...


every single phone call that Trump made from the Oval Office.

...preferably, someone in the Justice Department with prosecuting authority.

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Response to LudwigPastorius (Reply #5)

Wed Sep 15, 2021, 01:34 PM

47. I think all the tape recorders were taken out after Nixon

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Response to fescuerescue (Reply #47)

Wed Sep 15, 2021, 01:42 PM

49. Ugh, I didn't know that.


Since that's the case, and since the transcripts are "edited" by Trumpists, there would be no record of his bribing foreign officials...like the Ukraine call.

That is some bullshit.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Tue Sep 14, 2021, 10:48 PM

6. I swear many of us have PTSD

from everything he and his followers have put us and the country through. As recently as a month ago, I had night terrors, with my daughter and grandsons trying to wake me up. And what was it centered around? TFG! I think some of the fear, instead of being dealt with was just tamped down as deep as I could get it. I know I sure scared my daughter that night - not to mention my grandsons! "Grandma had bad dream!" the youngest said to me, hugging me...

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Response to slightlv (Reply #6)

Tue Sep 14, 2021, 11:08 PM

9. I already had it before dump.

It’s a daily struggle with episodes. I had to stop watching tv and only spend a small amount reading news. I just can’t.

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Response to slightlv (Reply #6)

Wed Sep 15, 2021, 02:58 AM

24. +1000

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Response to slightlv (Reply #6)

Wed Sep 15, 2021, 09:00 AM

32. Yeah, I had nightmares about Trump

Dropping bombs on California and trying to rescue my daughter during the bombing.

That's when I got my passport renewed.

The first thing a fascist dictatorship does is stop it's citizens from escaping abuse.

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Response to slightlv (Reply #6)

Wed Sep 15, 2021, 12:43 PM

44. True.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Tue Sep 14, 2021, 10:49 PM

7. I have a dear friend

Who, in many ways, is very progressive …

Who said to me the other day …

“But, Trump was such good teevee”

Am not certain, still, how I feel about that statement.

How can anyone think that the kardashianism of our government makes for “good teevee”

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Response to UpInArms (Reply #7)

Tue Sep 14, 2021, 11:27 PM

14. Our penchant for treating politics as entertainment will be our doom.

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Response to Grokenstein (Reply #14)

Tue Sep 14, 2021, 11:31 PM

15. It is so sad ...

She doesn’t understand that her attitude makes me weep

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Response to Grokenstein (Reply #14)

Wed Sep 15, 2021, 09:04 AM

33. +1000

I'd go even further to say that our penchant for being obsessed with celebrities and their every utterance coupled with reality TV was the slippery slope to anti intellectualism.

I'm not ashamed to say that I have no idea who Nikki Minaj is even after reading some of the posts on DU referencing the name. I have no desire to know any more about her.

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Response to UpInArms (Reply #7)

Wed Sep 15, 2021, 12:27 AM

20. Whom, is in MANY ways, not too.

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Response to UpInArms (Reply #7)

Wed Sep 15, 2021, 04:59 AM

27. Does your friend know how you feel?

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Response to Boomerproud (Reply #27)

Wed Sep 15, 2021, 08:04 AM

28. Yes

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Response to UpInArms (Reply #7)

Wed Sep 15, 2021, 08:35 AM

30. By broadcasting every rally in 2016, the media helped elect Trump.

I still remember being incensed when all major networks cut away from a Clinton speech because the Trump plane had landed for a rally. The screen showed nothing but the steps of the plane for many minutes, just waiting. He wasn’t even at the rally speaking. All he was going to do was come down the steps and get in a car, and the media thought that was more important than Clinton’s policy speech.

Media treated Trump as a reality TV show and made him a political star. In many ways, they’re still doing it today. They jump to attention and publish his every utterance. It is the media that helps keep him in the limelight and keeps the possibility for him to run again in 2024 alive.

Our notion of good “teevee” would never match that of the MAGAT notion of good TV. To me, Trump is so repulsive as a human being that I don’t even want to see a photo of him, much less an entire television broadcast of him.

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Response to Lonestarblue (Reply #30)

Wed Sep 15, 2021, 06:27 PM

56. They Did The Same...

...in the infamous empty podium event.
HRC was giving her economics & jobs platform speech. They cut away to show an empty podium for nearly 15 minutes.
Clinton's speech took only 11 or 12 more minutes.
They could have carried the climax of her speech and still had 2-3 minutes of empty podium.
But, they ignored a major policy speech to show nothing.

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Response to UpInArms (Reply #7)

Wed Sep 15, 2021, 09:09 AM

34. Amused To Death- Roger Waters you should listen to the whole album.

And when they found our shadows
Grouped around the TV sets
No tears to cry no feelings left.This species has amused itself to death.

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Amused To Death
Doctor Doctor what is wrong with me
This supermarket life is getting long
What is the heart life of a colour TV
What is the shelf life of a teenage queen
Ooh western woman
Ooh western girl
News hound sniffs the air
When Jessica Hahn goes down
He latches on to that symbol
Of detachment
Attracted by the peeling away of feeling
The celebrity of the abused shell the belle
Ooh western woman
Ooh western girl
And the children of Melrose
Strut their stuff
Is absolute zero cold enough
And out in the valley warm and clean
The little ones sit by their TV screens
No thoughts to think
No tears to cry
All sucked dry
Down to the very last breath
Bartender what is wrong with me
Why am I so out of breath
The captain said excuse me ma'am
This species has amused itself to death
Amused itself to death
Amused itself to death
We watched the tragedy unfold
We did as we were told
We bought and sold
It was the greatest show on earth
But then it was over
We ohhed and aahed
We drove our racing cars
We ate our last few jars of caviar
And somewhere out there in the stars
A keen-eyed look-out
Spied a flickering light
Our last hurrah
And when they found our shadows
Grouped around the TV sets
They ran down every lead
They repeated every test
They checked out all the data on their lists
And then the alien anthropologists
Admitted they were still perplexed
But on eliminating every other reason
For our sad demise
They logged the explanation left
This species has amused itself to death
No tears to cry no feelings left
This species has amused itself to death

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Response to UpInArms (Reply #7)

Wed Sep 15, 2021, 09:45 AM

37. Good God. The last 5 years have not been a game. We have been lucky so far.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Tue Sep 14, 2021, 10:56 PM

8. I'm starting to be thankful COVID is killing off many who would elect Trump again.

Not that I wish anyone dead, but many of his brainwashed, hateful and angry followers are as crazy and dangerous as Trump.

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Response to Liberty Belle (Reply #8)

Wed Sep 15, 2021, 09:48 AM

39. I hear you.

And it isn't deadly enough, IMO.

I know that's horrible to think, much less say, but I'm sick of the intentional ignorance and their cult. They are more dangerous than any other cult I've encountered.

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Response to Ilsa (Reply #39)

Wed Sep 15, 2021, 01:14 PM

45. No it isn't.

It is only natural.

We all have been thru a nightmare that will not end.

I do not think good thoughts for Trump voters.

I already had PTSD, I know how to deal with it.

I think the whole country has it

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Tue Sep 14, 2021, 11:19 PM

10. For this thread

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Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Reply #10)

Wed Sep 15, 2021, 12:18 AM

18. I've never understood why so many voted for the most obnoxoius character alive.

If you were at a party, you'd avoid him, since all he talks about is himself.

If you could verbally sketch the most disgusting and abhorrent character you could fathom, Trump would be worse.

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Response to NH Ethylene (Reply #18)

Wed Sep 15, 2021, 12:43 AM

21. They either wanted to BE him

Or they saw him as a stand-in for their daddies.

Either way, it's revolting.

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Response to Moebym (Reply #21)

Wed Sep 15, 2021, 06:52 PM

57. "Stand-in for their daddies." Yes!

I know two men who had abusive childhoods at the hands of their fathers - psychological and physical abuse. They spoke of Trump like a child looking at a daddy figure with hope and trust. It was as if they identified with Trump as someone who had also had a psychologically abusive father, or as an abusive figure who now had the power to do "good things" that would make up for their childhood abuse. It was like a form of denial. "Yeah, my father was strict and tough but that's the way life is and he prepared me for it because he loved me."

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Response to NH Ethylene (Reply #18)

Wed Sep 15, 2021, 03:01 AM

25. +1000

He would not survive one week as an employee anywhere in the world. He is absolutely detestable and repulsive. Nobody would ever accept having to put up with him on a daily basis.

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Response to smirkymonkey (Reply #25)

Wed Sep 15, 2021, 10:40 AM

42. If he wasn't born into wealth...

Donald Trump would be they guy with the broom and shovel, following the elephants around in the circus parade. 🎪 💩

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Response to SergeStorms (Reply #42)

Wed Sep 15, 2021, 01:36 PM

48. Come on. That guy has an honest job, doing honest work

to provide for his family honestly.

Don't lump him in with Trump. Or most politicians really.

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Response to fescuerescue (Reply #48)

Wed Sep 15, 2021, 01:58 PM

50. Well, I did say....

if he wasn't born wealthy.

If he was just an ordinary guy, without every advantage in the world, I doubt he'd qualify for the poop cleaning job.

Bookend in the library perhaps? Speed bump? He's not qualified for much else.

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Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Reply #10)

Wed Sep 15, 2021, 09:48 AM

38. "What kind of monster have I created?" his Mom

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Tue Sep 14, 2021, 11:22 PM

11. The Slobfather's Fountains of Filth

Gushing forth toxic, reeking, raw sewage

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Tue Sep 14, 2021, 11:22 PM

12. The 4th Estate Knew!

Oh yeah, they kept asking trump, "will you allow for a peaceful transfer of power if you should lose the election?" Oh, yeah, the media had been asking trump this question months before the election. So they all had a hunch trump would try something stupid, and they sat back and watched. Question: WHY ARE THEY ALLOWING HIM TO HOLD A RALLY IN WASHINGNTON DC ON 18 SEP IN THE SAME PLACE THE JAN 6 INSURRECTION TOOK PLACE? WHY IS THE MEDIA NOT ASKING THIS QUESTION? Believe you/me whatever is going to happen, the media already knows about it.

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Response to toughtony (Reply #12)

Tue Sep 14, 2021, 11:54 PM

17. Tend to agree.

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Response to toughtony (Reply #12)

Wed Sep 15, 2021, 09:13 AM

35. Yeah, why are they allowing him a rally in the same place????

A very good question.

He attempted to overthrow a democratic election and they let him right back in to try again.

This is nuts. They destroyed facilities that are still not fully repaired and they pat the guy on the back and say go ahead, try again.

The same groups that destroyed government property are going to be there. Why are the powers that be ok with it? He can have his rally anywhere else. He should not be allowed to destroy our government buildings again.

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Response to Farmer-Rick (Reply #35)

Wed Sep 15, 2021, 09:52 AM

40. Helluva good question.

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Response to Farmer-Rick (Reply #35)

Wed Sep 15, 2021, 10:45 AM

43. They have nothing else.

Their party has no ideas other than, "keep white people in charge".

Like white people have done such a wonderful job so far.

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Response to toughtony (Reply #12)

Wed Sep 15, 2021, 02:17 PM

53. The very sad and disturbing thing is that

the media even thought they had to ask the question of him. I guess it was because, at some point, he hinted that there would not be a peaceful transfer. And no doubt he did that just so they would ask the question -- over and over again. It was all part of the scheme to put firmly in people's minds that the election results "could" be invalidated.

And we have to remember -- Trump did not do this all by himself.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Tue Sep 14, 2021, 11:23 PM

13. I'm not sure it would have been a good idea for Milley to go public.

At least not at the time. He wasn't the only one who saw Trump as unstable and dangerous. According to the Woodward & Costa book, Mitch McConnell discouraged Biden from calling Trump post-election, because he feared Trump would flip out and do something drastic. Milley speaking out about the situation probably would have exacerbated the situation even more. Like Dan Rather pointed out, things were likely WAY worse than we'll ever know. It's easy to armchair quarterback, especially in hindsight, but most people have little clue as the actual situation, beyond what is in some book==one that has not been release yet, beyond a few excerpts.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/mcconnell-told-biden-not-call-210149591.html

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Response to GoCubsGo (Reply #13)

Wed Sep 15, 2021, 12:22 AM

19. It was alluded to at the time, I believe.

I remember feeling relieved to read that the generals were guarding against any rash action that TFG could take.

And anybody who was paying attention knew this was a dangerous time, and really that he was capable of anything we could imagine.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Tue Sep 14, 2021, 11:53 PM

16. That's kind of funny.

Penn Jillette had almost the same words to say about Drumpf, based on his experience on Celebrity Apprentice. Oddly, Junior said to him "Of all the people that have been on the show over the years, you're the only one that actually likes my father."

It wasn't exactly that - PJ just appreciates people that can turn off their filters and just say what they're thinking. More of a sociology seminar than a friendly interaction. But I digress.

On a podcast, he said "No matter how bad you think he is, he's actually worse." He described him as being venal, shallow, egotistical and more, and, of course, the "contest" was fixed. PJ was told that there was no way he was going to win, because he wouldn't kiss the ring.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Wed Sep 15, 2021, 12:49 AM

22. Dan Rather has always been a hero of mine.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Wed Sep 15, 2021, 02:29 AM

23. From a reply: exactly what I've thought for 5 years...

I kept waiting for us to hit rock bottom, and every time I thought we were there, it was just a little ledge we had come to rest upon before falling even further. I’ve learned NEVER to assume it can’t get worse. He broke the whole damn thing.


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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Wed Sep 15, 2021, 03:26 AM

26. No Kidding! Rt TY & Dan Rather!

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Wed Sep 15, 2021, 08:05 AM

29. Compared to the deranged and downright traitorous actions of his presidency, this is simply tacky.

But his commentating on a PPV fighting event on the 20th anniversary of 9/11 shows how shallow he is. In what would be a non challenge for no belt with the main event being a clown show of washed up 40 year old former MMA champion Haye against former heavyweight champion Evander Holyfield was just ridiculous.
The 40 year old Haye was the pup fighting a 58 year old Holyfield. The fight was to be held in Los Angeles but California refused to sanction the bout because of Holyfield's age and the fact that he hadn't fought in ten years. Oscar de la Hoya was supposed to fight also but he's 48 and retired when Manny knocked him out 13 years ago.
And The Dotard spent a good deal of his time talking about all the champions he'd known and how highly they thought of him. Glassy eyed Donny Jr. was also there, no doubt drawing a salary he didn't deserve. Course Daddy didn't deserve one either.
Guess these "billionaires" need every buck they can grub.
At the age of 96, Jimmy Carter was the only President and former President who didn't have a public ceremony. His ceremony was private and no doubt as sincere as the man himself.

This bastard is as despicable as they come.

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Response to argyl (Reply #29)

Wed Sep 15, 2021, 08:58 AM

31. Holyfield fought Victor Belfort

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #31)

Wed Sep 15, 2021, 10:01 AM

41. So he did. And the age difference was 44 to 58.

These are still silly spectacles nonetheless and having Idiot and son commenting on them doesn't make them any more appealing.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Wed Sep 15, 2021, 09:42 AM

36. Read it again but change "Trump" to "Republicans"...

…and it still fits!!

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Wed Sep 15, 2021, 01:32 PM

46. Most


On here would agree he’s a despicable person on every level. To be accurate, Trumpism should be called Nazi ism. Also it follows, the Republican Party should be renamed the Nazi Party. Some will say doing that is going to far. It’s not. It’s accurate. Hey the republican party never stops calling us commies, socialist, Libs etc. it’s about time we started referring to the Republicans as the American Nazi Party because that is everything they are about.

Obviously this is wishful thinking but maybe over time people will see the Republican party for what it has become. They were always a bunch of self centered assholes, but this runaway pursuit of a facist society and all it’s horrible components is bad news.

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Response to musclecar6 (Reply #46)

Wed Sep 15, 2021, 02:06 PM

52. For any political party to work so hard at duplicitous, anti-scientific appeal in the face of

climate catastrophe, a raging pandemic and the "party of fiscal responsibility" engaging in recklessly expensive and futile campaigns...
although the veneer of Nazi-ism is undeniable, the basis of their hateful messaging and constantly being on the magnanimously wrong side of history, even to this self-destructive anti-vaccine constituency suicide/homocide... my f'n ghod how much longer can they prop up their self-revealing mountain of bullshit?
Not only are the statistics giving them the royal screwdown, but soooo many Trumpers are muted with shock right now and a glimmer of disgust with those towing the anti-vaxx rhetoric beyond all credibility-- since the revelation that their "Do as I say, not as I do" pundits are.... OMG... vaccinated. And so is TFG.
Just about all they've got left is the Nazified racism getting uglier and uglier. We've got no need to label or point out that self-evident folly.
1 in 6 unvaccinated individuals will succumb to mild to moderate COVID.
Of those, about half will be suffering long-term medical issues.
1 in 60 will die.
1 in about 14,000 vaccinated will have COVID.
1 in about 85,000 will die.
We still have time for this to give them the smackdown, a real painful one before they have to admit they're terribly wrong or become nothing but pariahs.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Wed Sep 15, 2021, 02:01 PM

51. We cannot soft pedal when dealing with these deranged idiots (gop and all other trumpists).

There is no measure too harsh in dealing with them.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Wed Sep 15, 2021, 05:35 PM

54. Take a hint from Italy and Romania

You can't rid the world of a fascist dictator by being nice and playing the "we go high" BS. It takes a lot more that wearing a pink hat and making cute signs to fish for Instagram likes. If you're not willing to get in the mud, wring your hands through it and take a bloody nose, then you don't have the cojones for the resistance. You will get stuck with him again in 2024.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Wed Sep 15, 2021, 05:42 PM

55. I want to know what Putin has on him.

Other than Trump owes him money. Did he kill someone? Did he pay to have someone killed or to watch someone die? Did he have sex with a minor or multiple minors? Pee tape real? I think it is worse than a pee tape.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Wed Sep 15, 2021, 07:33 PM

58. As more comes...and comes....guess what?...The FBI will come after Trump..So, you don't believe?

...The key is ...TIME.......The FBI will get Trump..also: Trump is the worst criminal around....and......

.....The FBI likes to get the very bad guys...Why TIME?..FBI likes "absolute proof" and the it is getting
absolute proof on Donald Trump...Trump is sure he will get away with it...and................

THE FBI LIKES GETTING PEOPLE WHO ARE SURE THAT HE/SHE IS GOING TO GET AWAY WITH IT.....AND

....TRUMP IS THE BIGGEST CROOK AROUND.....THE FBI WILL GET HIM...
one more idea....:

......"Donald Trump doesn't have a clue...says Stu"

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