The God D**M GOP MUST PAY FOR THE RECALL!

[Dawson Leery]

This was a waste of 300 million dollars at minimum. The GOP should foot the bill.

They also must pay at the ballot box next year.

The law must be changed. There should be at least 33% of all voters agreeing to a recall.
Also, there must be a gap between each effort of at least one year. If the first attempt fails (not enough signatures), you wait another 12 months before being allowed to request another recall.

[Skittles]

1. I have to say

pulling this kind of fucked up stunt DURING A PANDEMIC is especially egregious

[Cha]

26. +1!

[BlueKentuckyGirl]

38. and uncontrolled fires

That money could have gone a long way towards fighting the fires that still burn in northern California.

[Skittles]

41. you got that right

I know DAMN WELL they don't pay those firefighters enough!

[Starfury]

2. Party of Fiscal Responsibility, what a joke! nt

[zorbasd]

3. Yes, they must! The State of CA should seize $300M

from the coffers of the GQP.

[tishaLA]

4. They wasted $300 million and the lunatics ended up

Making Gov Newsom even stronger. For act two, they'll shoot themselves in their dicks.

[Equomba]

11. Not fair!

A very small target!

[Jerry2144]

16. They would need

An ion accelerator to accelerate a proton to hit something that small

[calimary]

30. Fine, for all I care!

Put themselves out of our misery, for a change.

[JohnSJ]

5. We must change the recall process NOW

[OMGWTF]

14. If the Governor is recalled, the Lt. Governor is the successor. Period.

That's the way it should be instead of the Rethug's skeevy attempt to slip a whack-o MAGAt into the governorship.

[JohnSJ]

15. Yes

[Liberty Belle]

33. No, because there could be a Republican elected as Lt. Governor someday.

But give a Governor an option to resign before the vote is certified, if he chooses, and allow the Lt. Gov to take office. If the Gov likes his Lt. Gov, this would be a way to avoid this fiasco, but still let a recall proceed if the Governor didn't have confidence in the Lt. Gov.

[JohnSJ]

51. I disagree, and not likely in California if the Governor in Democratic.

[Liberty Belle]

54. Sure it could happen. Deukmejian and Reagan were Reps elected. Schwarzenegger got 45%

when he beat Gray Davis in a recall. Politics is cyclical -- if the pendulum swings to far in voters' eyes there is a backlash.

If we wanted to recall the next Schwarzenegger or Reagan, would you want a Rep to step in?

[JohnSJ]

55. If that person got the most votes in the general election, I have no problem with that. I have a

problem with a recall system where a Governor could be removed, not for wrong doing, but ideological reasons, and an alternate candidate could get significantly less votes than the person they tried to remove, and bcecome Governor. Our recall process is inherently unDemocratic

They should also raise the signature requirement to at least 25% minimum. No other state that ha recalls has a threshold as low as we have it, 11%

There were 3 attempts to recall Newsom. This one succeeded with the help of a judge who extended the time to gather signatures by 3 months

The recall system is easy to abuse in California, and that is why the republicans have used it as their back door. It is also extremely expensive. This cost the state 250 million dollars.

Things have changed significantly from the examples you cite. We have jungle primaries, except for presidential elections where the top two vote getters in the primary, regardless of party, run against each other in the general election

We missed the bullet this time because people were paying attention

Another danger we need to be aware of is that republicans for years have been trying for years that in presidential general elections, it isn’t winner take all in electoral votes. Every so often they try to sneak that in through the initiative process.

They also have tried to cut up our state into several small states.

[TheBlackAdder]

48. And the Lt. Governor gets to appoint a temp Lt. Governor until a closed election confirms them.

.

The party in power votes to decide the replacement. Not a general election.

.

[Ilsa]

45. Yes. It's much worse than a frivolous lawsuit, yet I don't

hear GQP whining about it.

It is a waste of governors' time and party money.

[jmowreader]

49. I was thinking that we should wipe it off the face of the earth

At the present time the Republicans in my county are trying to set up a recall for two Republican county commissioners. They aren’t far enough to the right for their taste.

Their sin was voting against a proposal to officially endorse the John Birch Society.

Forget about your suggestions to make the recall process better. The only cures for a bad elected official should be impeachment and loss of the next election.

[Equomba]

6. Agreed.

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And I will leave it at that so as not to expose the more, in this case the more extremely so, vulgar aspects of my personality.

There is an election next year. Campaign, and if you've something worthwhile to say perhaps you will be supported by the majority. This was nothing more, nothing less, than a power grab. And I would have been equally offended if we had an R in office and the Dems pulled this.

[littlemissmartypants]

8. Welcome to DU, Equomba. nt

[brooklynite]

7. "They also must pay at the ballot box next year."

How many Republicans are left in California to be voted out?

[spanone]

9. 11 reps

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/CA#representatives

[Mr.Bill]

10. Just a few congressmen.

All statewide offices are held by Democrats. And we hold supermajorities in both houses of the legislature.

[Bev54]

23. For sure Nunes and McCarthy have to go

[Liberty Belle]

34. Issa is back in Congress; he'organized the recall against Gray Davis that gave us Schwarzenegger.

Wondering how safe his seat will be after redistricting. Maybe lines will be drawn to give him part of liberal Imperial County.

[Nixie]

12. Yay! They should pay for this.

What a pathetic farce.

Something is going to have to change. Millions more signatures required at the minimum.

[Sogo]

13. It really is offensive.

How many of those homeless people (whom the Rs claim to care so much about) could have been helped, and in a BIG way, by spending $300 million on them????

[orleans]

17. you said 33% of voters should agree to recall. what is the percent now? nt

[MFM008]

18. now they want a recount

a recount of over 35 percent loss.........
was all that "rigging"...................

[C Moon]

19. I think the recall was a two-fold plan. Now they are going to begin the trumpiddle "stolen" approach

and they will do this with every election, to make the Dems look like cheaters. A Sleight of hand trick.

[Cha]

25. They can try.. President Biden & VP

Harris says Differently.

Fuck 'em if they can't live in REALT Y.

[C Moon]

27. They certainly have become the party of unreality. I wonder when it will implode on them?

[Cha]

28. In our Lifetime.. I hope!

[SniffSniffWhatsThat]

20. BLUE STATE STRATEGY REPORT

I would like to see what Mark Miley knows about The blue state strategy report.

https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/.VGJbTQoEx37UxGGU5hdpw--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTY0MDtoPTQ4NQ--/https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/q0LgprYbmYhZlDzEsTlkfg--~B/aD02NDE7dz04NDU7YXBwaWQ9eXRhY2h5b24-/https://media.zenfs.com/en/the_week_574/106c8559ad3959aef067139d8364a1bf

[Ursus Rex]

47. What IS the Blue state strategy report?

Those 3 links just go to a pic of TFG and Milley.

[Ohio Joe]

52. The poster seems to be dropping it in several threads

No explanation, no seeming relation. I've tried doing some searches but... Nothing.

[moondust]

21. Without any penalty

they'll just keep doing it all over the place. At least until TFG dies and goes to Hell and his cult is Gone With The Whigs.

Make them pay! And fix the law to prevent such legal abuses.

[flying_wahini]

22. Keep recalling and drain the coffers.... Part of the plan?

[Cha]

24. YAY.. I take it you still have Gov Newsom!!

And, Yes GD right Damn MAGAts need t PAY for that Shit in $$$$$$$$ & at the Ballet BOX!

[Initech]

29. Agreed! That was an obscene waste of money and resources.

Fuck the MAGAs!

[mucifer]

31. Yes, they met their goals

[Liberty Belle]

32. And put the person being recalled on the list of candidates, so a small percent can't vote in a nut.

So if a majority had voted to recall Newsom, he could still have stayed in office as long as he got more votes than any other candidate due to votes split many ways.

Also prohibit recalls in the last year of an office-holder's term.

Limit the grounds for recall to only serious charges of malfeasance such as findings or crimes or corruption - not just because you disagree with handling of issues. Dems didn't like Schwarzenegger but didn't waste taxpayer money on a recall, for Pete's sake.

[Kablooie]

35. They don't pay for anything. EVER!

They are the party that is never held responsible for anything.
They can spend other people's money and openly commit crimes but they will never suffer consequences.
That's why they are the way they are. If there were consequences for their actions they would act responsibly but there never are so they don't.

[cstanleytech]

36. Actually the way it should be changed is that only those that were registered with the candidates

party in the past election that put them into office may sign up for such a recall petition and it should take 15% of them to start the ball rolling.
Then when it comes time to cast the vote at the polls on if they should be removed from office only those that were again registered of the same party at the time of the last election may vote on if they should be removed and it should take 55% or more to vote to remove them.
Otherwise the only other way to remove them should be via impeachment for committing a crime just like every other politician and we can hopefully avoid a repeat of this partisan hack show by the Republicans to remove a candidate that won a fair election.

[Kire]

37. The reimbursement too.

[panader0]

46. That section seems to cover this situation. I hope it holds.

[Fresh_Start]

39. Recall winner should have more votes than the incumbent in order to win

or recall should result in the Lt Gov becoming Gov rather than someone else entirely.

[Fresh_Start]

40. I'm hoping that they will pay because right now, the Dems have

a trained and excited team of volunteers with only a year to the next election.

[Champp]

42. Republicans persist in the lie that they are "conservatives"

What utter bullshit

[Irish_Dem]

43. No money for the people, but always money for the GOP machinations to obtain wealth and power.

Killing American citizens, stealing tax dollars for political purposes.

This is all fine for the GOP mob bosses.

[Hotler]

44. That should be a rule for recalls. I you initiate a recall and lose, you pay for it. nt

[Dawson Leery]

53. THIS!

[UCmeNdc]

50. Agree 100%