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kentuck

(111,094 posts)
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 07:49 AM Sep 2021

John Durham's "bombshell" distraction

Nothing distracts Republicans like the mention of Hillary Clinton.

It appears that John Durham is ready to complete his questionable "investigation" that has now taken longer than the initial Mueller investigation he was charged to investigate.

Why now?

Republicans need a distraction from the Arizona "audit" that has been ordered by a judge to be made public.

They need a distraction from the election debacle that just happened in California.

They need a distraction from the Insurrection of January 6th.

They need a distraction from their long list of crimes against the American people.

They need a distraction from their unpopular windmill attack upon the Covid vaccine.

So, this is the perfect time for John Durham to indict a former lawyer for the Clinton Foundation for maybe lying to the FBI?

That is close enough to Hillary Clinton to draw their attention away from the myriad of scandals that now embrace their Party.

Nothing can distract them like Hillary.

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John Durham's "bombshell" distraction (Original Post) kentuck Sep 2021 OP
They seem to be already pretty distracted from all you mentioned Kaleva Sep 2021 #1
Good grief they're rattled by her! calimary Sep 2021 #2
Lady parts are really, really scary to them. That shounds like a joke, but it isn't. Scrivener7 Sep 2021 #6
The good news is that we're resplendent with strong, brilliant, effective women. n/t Harker Sep 2021 #8
I think we know the game with them now. pwb Sep 2021 #3
Merrick Garland let the case proceed, gab13by13 Sep 2021 #4
A thought: sometimes, when one goes out of their jrthin Sep 2021 #5
I really hope he is busy with other things. It would be great to see evidence of that. Scrivener7 Sep 2021 #7
Garland should save the time and energy wasted on expecting reason from that crowd. 2Gingersnaps Sep 2021 #12
Bingo. Bi/non-partisanship is killing America. We need to knock it off; the other party will never lagomorph777 Sep 2021 #27
He did and now Durham looks like a clown EleanorR Sep 2021 #34
This suggests the Durham investigation has political undertones bucolic_frolic Sep 2021 #9
Not distracting me malaise Sep 2021 #10
The sad souls do not realize the extent they are being manipulated. kentuck Sep 2021 #13
Very true. I've started using that fact when talking to Reich wingers. CaptainTruth Sep 2021 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author malaise Sep 2021 #11
I believe someone pointed out that they were running out of time to file so this was the Ford_Prefect Sep 2021 #14
The statute of limitations is running out.. kentuck Sep 2021 #15
My personal impression is that they know it won't fly but they can drag it out for weeks. Ford_Prefect Sep 2021 #16
I agree. kentuck Sep 2021 #17
According to a CNN interview this morning Jeffrey Toobin said the whole premise is BS. Ford_Prefect Sep 2021 #21
Durham was confident Trump would again be President in 2020 Budi Sep 2021 #29
Grifters gotta grift I guess. Ford_Prefect Sep 2021 #30
Imagine the dominoe effect of panic when the House re-convened, on Jan 6th, to secure Biden's win. Budi Sep 2021 #31
I agree that must have been a shock to their hopes and distorted dreams of power. Ford_Prefect Sep 2021 #32
Yup. They were all crappin their pants at the thought of being the ONE GUY who botched their One Job Budi Sep 2021 #33
I think it ends this Sunday, that's 2-3 days. CaptainTruth Sep 2021 #25
Don't forget the looming expiration of the statute of limitations BioProfRP Sep 2021 #18
This. Yes. Budi Sep 2021 #20
"In that conversation, he says, I'm not representing a client generally," UCmeNdc Sep 2021 #19
It's a blind rage hatred of the Clintons going back to the 90's, fomented by hate radio largely. n/t Evolve Dammit Sep 2021 #22
All true BUT: SayItLoud Sep 2021 #23
It took Durham over two years. onenote Sep 2021 #26
This is a really stupid indictment LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2021 #28
Nothingburger. halfulglas Sep 2021 #35
Rush Limbaugh made his whole career out of Hillary distractions FakeNoose Sep 2021 #36

Kaleva

(36,298 posts)
1. They seem to be already pretty distracted from all you mentioned
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 07:53 AM
Sep 2021

Dictator Biden's evil plan to jab all Patriots' with the deadly vaccine consumes them. There's also the blatant theft of the California recall election.

calimary

(81,261 posts)
2. Good grief they're rattled by her!
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 07:54 AM
Sep 2021

The effect that one strong, brilliant, and effective woman can have …

What was so doggone threatening about her?

And they’re STILL rattled by her. What does THAT tell you?

Scrivener7

(50,949 posts)
6. Lady parts are really, really scary to them. That shounds like a joke, but it isn't.
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 08:06 AM
Sep 2021

The idea of women in power brings them to their knees. Much like the idea of brown in power.

Because it means their mediocre selves don't get to rule over everyone anymore.

All that we are seeing today is terror over that fact.

pwb

(11,263 posts)
3. I think we know the game with them now.
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 07:54 AM
Sep 2021

Many use to fall for the diversions. Now we know where to look. When a puke says look over here, look over there?

gab13by13

(21,337 posts)
4. Merrick Garland let the case proceed,
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 07:59 AM
Sep 2021

he could have shut it down which means;

1. There is a case, not earth shattering, but a case.
2. Garland is going out of his way to not be accused of being partisan.

jrthin

(4,836 posts)
5. A thought: sometimes, when one goes out of their
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 08:03 AM
Sep 2021

way to not be accused of being partisan, justice escapes.

2Gingersnaps

(1,000 posts)
12. Garland should save the time and energy wasted on expecting reason from that crowd.
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 08:45 AM
Sep 2021

Just as Brett Kavanaugh will always be the drunken perv the FBI received 4500 tips on and did not investigate, who committed perjury to get on the Supreme Court, and Amy Coney Barrett is a Talibangelical-Garland will always be the guy Obama nominated and never got a hearing because dirty deeds are OKIYAAR.

The pretzel logic compares to the idea that the FBI, neutered by tRump, infiltrated and false flagged those true Red patriots on January 6. That's what "Justice" (under Barr) gets for getting in bed with Proud Boys and Oaf Keepers.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
27. Bingo. Bi/non-partisanship is killing America. We need to knock it off; the other party will never
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 10:54 AM
Sep 2021

be bipartisan.

EleanorR

(2,391 posts)
34. He did and now Durham looks like a clown
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 12:55 PM
Sep 2021

Imagine if Garland had shut it down, the conspiracy theories that would have flown. Even the MSM would have jumped on that one.

Love this analogy btw.




bucolic_frolic

(43,161 posts)
9. This suggests the Durham investigation has political undertones
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 08:25 AM
Sep 2021

As usual, Republican operatives hiding in plain sight and puffing their chest the whole catwalk

CaptainTruth

(6,591 posts)
24. Very true. I've started using that fact when talking to Reich wingers.
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 10:32 AM
Sep 2021

Debating their insane points is usually a waste of time, I've found it better to focus on the big picture, ask if they understand why they believe what they believe, ask if they realize they are being manipulated by rich & powerful forces, told what to believe, brainwashed even, purely for the benefit of the rich & powerful who are just using them for their own gain.

For example, why do you believe Hillary is a criminal? Do you believe it because you have first-hand knowledge of crimes she committed, you were in the room when it happened & you witnessed it? Or do you believe it because rich & powerful people who control the media told you to believe it, & you went along with it & let them use you?

It doesn't always work but I've seen a few light bulbs go on, a few people realize that the only reason they believe Reich Wing BS is because the Reich Wing BS Machine tells them that's what they should believe. A few "wow, I never thought about it that way" moments. Moreover, it's the TRUTH, so I'll never stop saying it.

Response to kentuck (Original post)

Ford_Prefect

(7,896 posts)
14. I believe someone pointed out that they were running out of time to file so this was the
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 09:12 AM
Sep 2021

case they thought they could prove. I saw somewhere that it is a very narrow and technical interpretation of the law and the evidence. If that is true I suspect that it will not stand judicial review or cross examination for very long.

Not that the MSM will draw that distinction clearly nor point out the flaws in legal reasoning underlying the case. Anything which can be made to appear to be a scandal with a Clinton name involved is worth hours of obsessive reiteration and 14 variations on the same headline.

Ford_Prefect

(7,896 posts)
16. My personal impression is that they know it won't fly but they can drag it out for weeks.
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 09:26 AM
Sep 2021

They'll make it appear to be much more important than it is by suggesting this is only the tip of the iceberg in Hillary's campaign and that other aspects have been hidden from view by nefarious means or "Deep State" agents.

This was never about provable legal questions. Rather like the Benghazi committee it was put up to cast suspicion on Democrats and distract from genuine claims made about Republicans, Trump, and their campaign activities.

Ford_Prefect

(7,896 posts)
21. According to a CNN interview this morning Jeffrey Toobin said the whole premise is BS.
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 09:49 AM
Sep 2021

Everyone at the FBI and DOJ knew that Sussman represented the Clinton Campaign. Basically he came to speak to the top lawyer at FBI, Jim Baker, to tell him about something he thought they should know about and may wish to investigate: A technical back channel between a Trump campaign server and a Russian Bank. It was a voluntary contact between legal professionals on a potential point of investigation, not a sworn deposition under oath.

After 5 years this seems a very empty nothing to offer up.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
29. Durham was confident Trump would again be President in 2020
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 11:33 AM
Sep 2021

Things shifted with his manufactured case the day Biden was sworn into Office & without Trump's DOJ, he's stuck with it.

Did Durham think that with a damning case invoking the Clinton name, that Trump may appoint HIM AG?

Durham was merely preparing an offering to mob boss Trump for a reward.
AG John Durham, perhaps?

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
31. Imagine the dominoe effect of panic when the House re-convened, on Jan 6th, to secure Biden's win.
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 11:58 AM
Sep 2021

Republican & foreign allies who believed they'd covered every possibility to hold the power of the WH, had somehow failed.

The end of American Democracy was within an inch of their reach, that is until Speaker Pelosi called the House back in session, just hours after the threat within our Capitol to secure the election vote for Joe Biden.

Imagine the panic, rage, blame & absolute disbelief that ran down like dominoes, thru the RW channels that night.

Nooooooo!!!

Ford_Prefect

(7,896 posts)
32. I agree that must have been a shock to their hopes and distorted dreams of power.
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 12:06 PM
Sep 2021

However, they seem to have regrouped fast enough. Their sort never plans for failure, they merely adjust their sights to other targets. I guess that's the kind of power the dark money crowd really has.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
33. Yup. They were all crappin their pants at the thought of being the ONE GUY who botched their One Job
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 12:22 PM
Sep 2021

....that doomed the perfect plan.

Up the chain of command, people were called upon to "Fking FIX IT!!" "Think Fast, Just FIX IT!!"

If those private conversations that night could be revealed, we'd be riveted. I'm betting their were mob level threats, loud verbal face-to-face beat downs, a hand to a throat rage and enough swear words to cause a quake.

Wonder if any of that inner circle's phone convos/texts were picked up by our foreign allies' surveillance?

BioProfRP

(28 posts)
18. Don't forget the looming expiration of the statute of limitations
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 09:33 AM
Sep 2021

It seems that this weekend Durham was facing the 5 year deadline on the statute of limitation to make any charges.

That likely motivated the timing as much as anything.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
20. This. Yes.
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 09:43 AM
Sep 2021

Garland may know Durham has no case.
So Prove it Mr Durham, please proceed.


"Durham's been laughed out of the headquarters of just about every intelligence agency in Europe. He is a literal laughing stock and this @perkinscoieLLP 'indictment' reflects that"

UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)
19. "In that conversation, he says, I'm not representing a client generally,"
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 09:40 AM
Sep 2021

"In that conversation, he says, I'm not representing a client generally," he continued. "Specifically I'm just sort of reporting this. That's what's alleged. There are no notes of this conversation; there is -- this is a five-year-old conversation and in Baker's report to his colleague, the colleague writes down, everyone knows that Susman's firm represents the Clinton campaign, so there was no mystery about who Sussman was or where Sussman was coming from. So the idea that this was some lie that changed the FBI and changed their investigation just seems deeply bizarre to me, if this statement was ever said at all because there are no notes."


https://www.rawstory.com/john-durham-2655054134/

SayItLoud

(1,702 posts)
23. All true BUT:
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 10:16 AM
Sep 2021

They're indicting and WE ARE NOT.

Individual1 = nada
Obstruction of justice = nada

____________(fill in the blank on any of a dozen items) = NADA

#TFG and the crime family has been and is above the law. We are too focused on the big bad disgusting GQPers and the clock is ticking on statute of limitations, "I'm running for potus and this is a political witch hunt"....bla bla bla.

halfulglas

(1,654 posts)
35. Nothingburger.
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 04:26 PM
Sep 2021

It's going nowhere after the indictment but I suspect DOJ under present administration didn't want to actively stop it because there would be subsequent cries of partisan coverup (like the past 5 years weren't partisan). Durham didn't want to admit the last 2 years of his life were for nothing. The horror!

FakeNoose

(32,639 posts)
36. Rush Limbaugh made his whole career out of Hillary distractions
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 04:31 PM
Sep 2021

If there is a hell I hope that sick fuck is burning in it.

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