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Wounded Bear

(58,653 posts)
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 11:48 AM Oct 2021

The one thing we can't allow is doing nothing...

If the reconciliation ends up at $0, we're screwed in 2022.

Even if we only get $1.5T it will be a boost, and we could really take another cut next year. One important thing is to keep the Child Tax Credit payments going after Jan1. That is money in people's pockets.

If we get anything passed it will help in 2022, no matter what the pundits might be saying.

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The one thing we can't allow is doing nothing... (Original Post) Wounded Bear Oct 2021 OP
Better get those Senate Dems to stick to their word. aocommunalpunch Oct 2021 #1
I know what you mean... Wounded Bear Oct 2021 #2
Absolutely wryter2000 Oct 2021 #3
Which is why repubs fillibustered the debt limit... Wounded Bear Oct 2021 #4
At least wryter2000 Oct 2021 #5
I'm wondering if they can wind the debt ceiling into the existing bill AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2021 #6
I'm afraid we'd lose the Republican votes wryter2000 Oct 2021 #7
No the existing reconciliation bill AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2021 #8
Good point wryter2000 Oct 2021 #9

wryter2000

(46,045 posts)
3. Absolutely
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 11:54 AM
Oct 2021

I hear they offered Manchin 2.1T yesterday. I'm pretty sure his 1.5 was an opening offer. Plus, the progressives in the House said they'll pass the other bill if they have reassurance that this bill will pass. IMHO, this is real progress. The only thing that still worries me is Sinema.

The other thing...we might have to use reconciliation to get the debt limit raised, so we'd have to wait until next year to get the 1.5/2.1. Bummer.

AZSkiffyGeek

(11,023 posts)
6. I'm wondering if they can wind the debt ceiling into the existing bill
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 12:13 PM
Oct 2021

Someone posted a dizzying link about how it would be done. It sounded complicated but possible - they'd have to move quickly.

wryter2000

(46,045 posts)
7. I'm afraid we'd lose the Republican votes
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 01:09 PM
Oct 2021

This one only avoided the filibuster because Republicans signed on to. IIRC

AZSkiffyGeek

(11,023 posts)
8. No the existing reconciliation bill
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 01:18 PM
Oct 2021

Not the bipartisan bill. That's already cooked in the Senate.
I'm just not sure if they need a clean reconciliation bill for the debt ceiling, or if it can be included in BBB.

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