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kentuck

(111,110 posts)
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 02:15 PM Oct 2021

Trumpers hate Joe Biden with a passion.

Probably equal to the passion that many Democrats hate Donald Trump.

It's a sign of the times, I suppose?

The nation is divided and politics seems to generate more hatred than is normal.

If Joe Biden cannot unite this country, I don't know that anyone can. He has always had the reputation as one of the most "bi-partisan" Senators in Washington. Still, they hate him.

Joe will probably think long about whether or not he will run for re-election? Is it worth it? In the end, I think Joe will do what he thinks is best for the country.

I believe he will win if he runs again. But what will he win?

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Trumpers hate Joe Biden with a passion. (Original Post) kentuck Oct 2021 OP
It is strange. Joe Biden is one of the nicest kindest men you'll ever meet Walleye Oct 2021 #1
He wins the right to provide the best leadership possible, despite the hatred. Irish_Dem Oct 2021 #2
They hate ALL Democrats. There's nothing we can do. Boomerproud Oct 2021 #3
They're gonna hate whoever isn't them. calimary Oct 2021 #4
Trumpers hate. (full stop) MissMillie Oct 2021 #5
They hate all Democrats. milestogo Oct 2021 #6
They hate all Democrats...starting with Clinton, Republicans decided Democrats had no Demsrule86 Oct 2021 #7
Yep Demovictory9 Oct 2021 #14
they hate republicans too. DeeNice Oct 2021 #8
And whoever the next Republican is fescuerescue Oct 2021 #9
I never hated Bush Jr. I thought he was a fool and had no idea what he was doing. Caliman73 Oct 2021 #15
They don't hate Biden. They hate a false representation of Biden. Caliman73 Oct 2021 #10
Exactly. Mass irrationality. Like some kind of primitive culture Walleye Oct 2021 #17
Mass irrationality for sure. Not so sure about primitive culture. Caliman73 Oct 2021 #25
True. At least primitive cultures hadn't had as much history to rely on Walleye Oct 2021 #26
The country isn't capable of being united iemanja Oct 2021 #11
Biden made their hero a loser, and it stuck gratuitous Oct 2021 #12
This makes mass quantities of sense. calimary Oct 2021 #16
It's tough to be in love with A LOSER Champp Oct 2021 #21
They hated Obama inwiththenew Oct 2021 #13
So true Polybius Oct 2021 #18
Oh Biden will win..no doubt PortTack Oct 2021 #19
There is, imo, no uniting this country ever again. We will forever be blue/red. Ferrets are Cool Oct 2021 #20
Biden vs Hillary ThunderRoad Oct 2021 #22
Trumpers hate Joe Biden with a passion. FelineOverlord Oct 2021 #23
Difference is I hate Trump because of his own in-fact words and actions. Conns hate mackdaddy Oct 2021 #24
Well, they hate actual America with a passion too. BlueIdaho Oct 2021 #27
They hate ALL OF US. spanone Oct 2021 #28
They (30%) hate us enough to bluestarone Oct 2021 #29

Walleye

(31,105 posts)
1. It is strange. Joe Biden is one of the nicest kindest men you'll ever meet
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 02:17 PM
Oct 2021

I do think he knew how much he would be hated though. I think it shows how much he cares that he did it anyway

calimary

(81,550 posts)
4. They're gonna hate whoever isn't them.
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 02:27 PM
Oct 2021

And they’ll have eventually get around to subdivision - so they can let their precious hatred run even farther amok.

Demsrule86

(68,735 posts)
7. They hate all Democrats...starting with Clinton, Republicans decided Democrats had no
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 02:35 PM
Oct 2021

right to govern if elected.

DeeNice

(575 posts)
8. they hate republicans too.
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 02:35 PM
Oct 2021

They have this idiot all framed out like some anti-establishment hero and anyone not following him is part of the deep state or antifa.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
9. And whoever the next Republican is
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 02:36 PM
Oct 2021

We will hate him even more than Trump.

And whoever follows him (not doubt a Dem) will be hated even worse by the Republicans.

And whoever thought there would be a man hated more than George Bush?

The cycle of hate never stops. It's in everyone's DNA

Caliman73

(11,755 posts)
15. I never hated Bush Jr. I thought he was a fool and had no idea what he was doing.
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 02:45 PM
Oct 2021

I did not hate him though.

He was a bad President. His policies, for the most part, were bad for the American People. He did however get Medicare Part D up and running. Even though it was basically a give away to pharmaceutical companies, it did help a lot of Seniors with the cost of prescription drugs.

Cheney, I thought was an evil man with bad intentions. I try not to hate, but I can't say that my thoughts did not stray towards hatred of Cheney.

I did not like McCain or Romney, but I do not hate them and do not think I would have hated them if they had won the Presidency.

Trump is unique in the sense that he did not even really espouse any of the supposed policies of the Republican Party. He represented a base, repulsive cruelty and corruption, that I think is endemic within the conservative movement. A contempt for all but the wealthiest White men, but a willingness to exploit racism and populism to create a hierarchy that would benefit those wealthy White men. Right now, it appears that the only way forward for Conservatism/Republicanism is in the model of Trump and fascism, otherwise they are going to have to renounce everything they have done since Nixon and start over.

Caliman73

(11,755 posts)
10. They don't hate Biden. They hate a false representation of Biden.
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 02:37 PM
Oct 2021

No one who actually knows about, or knows Joe Biden, would hate the man. Nor President Obama, nor Hillary Clinton.

Trump, on the other hand, has a documented history of being a real scumbag. George Bush Jr., though he has his flaws and was not a good President at all, is probably at least a decent human being. Spoiled like a frat boy, but not a sociopath.

They hate the image of Biden that is being presented in their highly selective and insular bubble of media. They have been conditioned to discount any information about Biden that comes from what most of the rest of us would consider, at least somewhat neutral sources. I have seen at least 3 threads today on DU about how the "media" is painting Joe Biden as a failure. THAT SAME MEDIA, according to these "Trump loving, Biden hating" people; ONLY PAINT GLOWING PICTURES OF BIDEN.

How is it that groups of people can have such a very different perspective?

Like I said, Trump supporters have been listening to the same right wing media that has been poisoning the discourse since the 1990's. Starting with Limbaugh and right wing radio, but getting boosted into the mainstream by Fox and its copycats, and a slew of right wing websites, You Tube, and social media sites like Facebook. Anyone born in the last 20 -30 years can have gone their entire life without ever listening to CNN, Headline News, ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS, C-SPAN, NPR, or any other relatively mainstream outlet. These people are likely submerged in outlets who paint Biden as a practicing Communist, Satan worshipper.

If you could engage them in a relative vacuum and present them with policies, just actual policies and their proposed effects, they would probably like a number of Democratic proposals, but say the word Biden, Democratic, or liberal and they would immediately start talking about "socialism" Nazi, etc...

They are on affective overload. They are so emotionally charged that they cannot even formulate rational thoughts about their world. Everything is colored by the media they consume.

Something has to be done about that, or we will never get this situation back under some kind of functional control.

Caliman73

(11,755 posts)
25. Mass irrationality for sure. Not so sure about primitive culture.
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 04:54 PM
Oct 2021

Remember that it was in the 20th century that the German People were lead to war with basically the rest of the world, over an ideology of White Supremacy. That same White Supremacy exists in our culture and was in fact, part of the basis of the laws and practices which Hitler used to establish the Nazis and take Germany to near total destruction. That was less than 100 years ago.

The Germans were considered to be a country on the rise and sophistication under the early regime. It appears that learning is mutual and right wingers (which the Nazis were in Germany despite the right's insistence on the "Socialism" aspect) have learned from Hitler's and Goebbels' playbook that encapsulating a population in a bubble of lies and mythology is effective for getting your agenda through.

Walleye

(31,105 posts)
26. True. At least primitive cultures hadn't had as much history to rely on
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 04:57 PM
Oct 2021

We in modern times have no excuse whatever

iemanja

(53,093 posts)
11. The country isn't capable of being united
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 02:39 PM
Oct 2021

Expecting Biden to do so is putting too much on any human.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
12. Biden made their hero a loser, and it stuck
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 02:41 PM
Oct 2021

The former guy has lost in so many ways all through his life. Which means he's just like you and me, who have also lost in so many ways all through our lives. Some of those losses you just shake off and keep moving. Other losses can debilitate a person for a long, long time. Some losses are so shattering, a person can't and doesn't go on.

But the former guy has styled himself as the perpetual and eternal winner. Biden beat his ass worse than Hillary Clinton beat it, and this time the loss stuck. Try as he might, the former guy hasn't been able to turn his ass-whoopin' into victory, and every day that goes by when the news is about what President Biden is doing is another day that reinforces the former guy's loss.

And the former guy's lickspittles hate that.

Polybius

(15,514 posts)
18. So true
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 04:03 PM
Oct 2021

The last President not hated by Democrats was Poppy Bush or Ford. The last President not hated by Republicans was Carter or JFK.

PortTack

(32,813 posts)
19. Oh Biden will win..no doubt
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 04:07 PM
Oct 2021

64+% of the country think it would be bad for tfg to run again.

The gqp is a radically shrinking party. Ppl are fearful of them being in power again, and rightly so

Ferrets are Cool

(21,111 posts)
20. There is, imo, no uniting this country ever again. We will forever be blue/red.
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 04:39 PM
Oct 2021

And the divide will be DEEP. I cannot imagine even one scenario that will bring about a meeting of the minds.

 

ThunderRoad

(28 posts)
22. Biden vs Hillary
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 04:44 PM
Oct 2021

I don’t agree, actually, at least not based on my experience with Republicans. For sure they don’t like Biden and they’re always mocking him but I don’t get the sense there is that same deep rooted hate for him as they had for Hillary Clinton.

FelineOverlord

(3,603 posts)
23. Trumpers hate Joe Biden with a passion.
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 04:48 PM
Oct 2021

They have been brainwashed into believing that Biden “stole” the election from Their Dear Leader.

mackdaddy

(1,530 posts)
24. Difference is I hate Trump because of his own in-fact words and actions. Conns hate
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 04:53 PM
Oct 2021

Biden and the Democrats because of made up lies and exaggerations. They live in Bizzaro Trumpland.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
27. Well, they hate actual America with a passion too.
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 05:00 PM
Oct 2021

They have this weird twisted fantasy version of amerikkka that only exists in their fascist dreams. Real America? They got no time for.

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