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Nevilledog

(51,094 posts)
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 12:46 AM Oct 2021

MAGATS think Merck's new Covid-19 pill is just Ivermectin rebranded



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Marisa Kabas
@MarisaKabas
Merck, the manufacturer of Ivermectin, announced today it's successful clinical trial for a new antiviral pill called molnupiravir to treat covid.

Though they're different drugs, the pro-Ivermectin folks are already going hard on the conspiracy theories.
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MAGATS think Merck's new Covid-19 pill is just Ivermectin rebranded (Original Post) Nevilledog Oct 2021 OP
Boy. They were way ahead of me. I though I was clever posting this earlier. Telling them it was brewens Oct 2021 #1
But see, Merck makes Ivermectin.....gotta have that link. Nevilledog Oct 2021 #2
Depressing, isn't it, when we can't wnylib Oct 2021 #6
It's like someone stealing your punchline all the time. Sheesh! LOL n/t brewens Oct 2021 #14
Christ, these people are stupid. sop Oct 2021 #3
I know, it is like a giant IQ test was given to the entire US population. Irish_Dem Oct 2021 #13
Well, at least they'll take it. iemanja Oct 2021 #4
Probably not, since Ivermectin is cheaper. wnylib Oct 2021 #8
Mr. Ed says You don't say! Baked Potato Oct 2021 #5
Well, there you have it. They've been listening to Mr. Ed too much. wnylib Oct 2021 #7
"BUH AH KIN STILL GIT AHVERMECKTIN AT HOAM DEEP-O FER CHEEP, RITE?" Grokenstein Oct 2021 #9
lolol Celerity Oct 2021 #11
They might be on the right track ... it might be a similar drug ... Hugh_Lebowski Oct 2021 #10
Do you have any evidence for that? Hav Oct 2021 #12
I missed the post that you responded to wnylib Oct 2021 #15
I thought the post I responded to was pretty mild Hav Oct 2021 #17
It's not changes in human cells that concern me. wnylib Oct 2021 #18
Oh, no! Republicans are suddenly willing to take medication that will HELP them? DFW Oct 2021 #16
The magats are caught in some kind of .. ananda Oct 2021 #19
Merck colored the pill red, so the MAGAbillies are likelier to swallow it. "I'm red-pilled, y'all!" Efilroft Sul Oct 2021 #20

brewens

(13,582 posts)
1. Boy. They were way ahead of me. I though I was clever posting this earlier. Telling them it was
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 12:51 AM
Oct 2021

really hydroxychloroquine. Fuck. I can't even make up wild shit fast enough to keep up with them! LOL

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=15914400

Irish_Dem

(47,036 posts)
13. I know, it is like a giant IQ test was given to the entire US population.
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 06:10 AM
Oct 2021

And a big chunk of Americans are not performing well.

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
10. They might be on the right track ... it might be a similar drug ...
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 03:05 AM
Oct 2021

The evidence for ivermectin having SOME positive effect is not as much of a joke as people on DU believe.

Ergo it could be Merck figured out a small tweak to it to make a 'new' drug that has a reliable, statistically significant effect.

Just sayin'

Hav

(5,969 posts)
12. Do you have any evidence for that?
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 04:19 AM
Oct 2021

Have their been any studies showing that Ivermectin is effective in doses suitable for humans?
And from the little I read, there are completely different principles behind how these two drugs work.

wnylib

(21,447 posts)
15. I missed the post that you responded to
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 07:04 AM
Oct 2021

but from your response, it must have been peculiar.

I'm feeling a bit cautious about this new pill. From what I've read about the trials, it certainly sounds effective, and maybe the technique is even promising as a treatment method for other viruses. My only concern is about manipulating the RNA of a virus that is present in the body. Could the manipulation go wrong?

Hav

(5,969 posts)
17. I thought the post I responded to was pretty mild
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 07:21 AM
Oct 2021

My response addressed the two points of the deleted post.

As for the dangers, that is way above my knowledge and I think we are left to relying on studies and scientists. It should be noted that it's used once you caught Covid so it's not something you just take to go to a bar. It introduces errors to hinder the replication process and seems effective at that. Us laymans don't have the knowledge to know why it would only affect viruses. I can only assume that "positive" changes for the virus would be extremely unlikely and according to Merck, it cannot cause changes in human cells.

wnylib

(21,447 posts)
18. It's not changes in human cells that concern me.
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 07:37 AM
Oct 2021

I don't think that would or could happen. It's the changes in the virus that I wonder about. The pill is supposed to disrupt the replication process by introducing mutations into the virus to give the virus incorrect transcription information. Then the virus can't reproduce itself inside the human body. But I wonder if the coronavirus could adapt to the transcription errors that the pill delivers.

I don't know if that's possible and don't expect you to answer it, either. It's just a question that occurred to me.

DFW

(54,372 posts)
16. Oh, no! Republicans are suddenly willing to take medication that will HELP them?
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 07:17 AM
Oct 2021

No, no, NO, guys! Continue to take ivermectin! Or Laetrile, or Clorox, we don't care.

But if Merck's pill is effective against Covid-19, please go back to taking that other stuff you used to tout. If you keep tilting towards taking an effective medicine, we are going to insist on Merck naming it "Obamaliberaline." See if you can swallow a pill with THAT name!

ananda

(28,859 posts)
19. The magats are caught in some kind of ..
Sat Oct 2, 2021, 08:02 AM
Oct 2021

conspiracy feedback loop.

The make a conspiracy out of everything now.

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