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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWe've all heard Republican voters say ...
... I am NOT a bigot, a racist, an anti-Semite, a misogynist, or an idiot who believes in whack-job conspiracy theories.
If that's true, it begs the obvious question: Then why do you keep electing bigots, racists, anti-Semites, misogynists, and idiots who believe in whack-job conspiracy theories to represent you?"
Just wonderin'.
Uncle Joe
(58,355 posts)Thanks for the thread NanceGreggs.
rurallib
(62,411 posts)thing out of their mouths. It will be whatever they said they weren't and an egregious one at that.
Clash City Rocker
(3,396 posts)We knew Trump colluded when he said no collusion. And if someone isnt a racist, they dont have to say theyre not a racist. The very statement Im not a racist confirms you are racist.
The Wizard
(12,545 posts)caught soliciting gay sex in a public toilet? The following day he made a public statement. "I am not gay. I never have been gay." Really, "never have been gay" as if it's a choice says it all.
agingdem
(7,849 posts)it was "I'm not an anti-semite..my doctor/accountant/lawyer are of the Jewish persuasion"..."I have nothing against Mexicans...our maid is a Mexican"..."Negroes are not bad people...Jim, our yardman is a Negro"...and then there is my all-time favorite one-size-fits-all defense "Some of my best friends are____(fill in the blank)"...
My parents were Holocaust survivors...overt hate was up close and personal....a few days ago I was going through old family albums and I found my wedding album (3/30/1969) and one picture took my breath away...seated at my parent's table were their/our friends..Black/Hispanic/gay...and I cried...
OMGWTF
(3,955 posts)unblock
(52,208 posts)They believe in a (self-serving) hierarchy with men over women, whites over blacks, etc. they think this is simply the way it is, the natural order of things, god's plan, whatever.
So all the crap they spew and their politicians spew is merely saying that's the way it is.
In their minds, to be a racist, you have to go well beyond exercising privilege and putting down the lower rungs of the ladder. You have to be violent against a minority *who didn't "deserve"* it, for instance.
They see a big difference between active animosity towards all members of a minority, and merely holding members of that minority to the lower level of privilege and rights that they think is appropriate for that lower place in the hierarchy.
If you don't believe in that hierarchy, this is all a distinction without a difference, or maybe only a matter of degree. But within their bigoted worldview, the real racists are always someone worse than themselves.
Clash City Rocker
(3,396 posts)And many people dont recognize that they have benefited from white privilege, so they may honestly not see it.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)Beartracks
(12,809 posts)=========
OldBaldy1701E
(5,126 posts)That not only are these people saying 'Hey, it is just how it is', they also feel that they are not being racist because they do not actively 'injure' anyone. They don't go out and beat up brown people, for example, so they are not racist. They don't berate immigrant refugees in the store aisle, so they are not racist. The fact that they support and vote for legislation that does the same thing, the fact that they always wax nostalgic for the times in history when white bias was always present if not practiced with glee is completely lost on them. They literally do not comprehend that all this adds up to a textbook racist, because they feel they did not do anything. Because in their minds they haven't.
unblock
(52,208 posts)Like, they'll never admit to hating a black person or treating them poorly simply because they're black.
There's always an excuse in their mind. The black person was doing something they shouldn't. So obvious with plice shootings. They *always* manage to find an excuse to justify the police shooting a black person even if it's an impossible standard and even if they'd scream bloody murder of the cop had done that to a white person.
They don't see that as racism, they see that as well, minorities need to know their station and so on.
OldBaldy1701E
(5,126 posts)rhiannon55
(2,671 posts)I suddenly understand my "non-racist"-who-votes-for-racists brother better. He's a white 72 year old Mormon, so a patriarchal, white hierarchy feels exactly right to him.
Thanks for the insight.
calimary
(81,238 posts)Explores and explains the reasoning and rationalization behind the Im not a racist.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)Tommymac
(7,263 posts)They don't see themselves that way because no one wants to see themselves as an idiot or worse.
They don't realize just how stupid it makes them look to everyone else who is not in their little tribe.
TigressDem
(5,125 posts)kentuck
(111,089 posts)Birds of a feather?
spanone
(135,831 posts)they doth protest too much
K&R
AZLD4Candidate
(5,688 posts)Red Mountain
(1,733 posts)Just watch their words and deeds.
H2O Man
(73,537 posts)TeamProg
(6,124 posts)SCantiGOP
(13,869 posts)They begin a sentence with Im not racist but
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If youre not about to say something racist, there is no reason for that pre-qualification.
paleotn
(17,912 posts)Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
There's also the duck test. Walks like a duck. Quacks like a duck. I'd say it's a duck.
The corollary to the Friend Test applies. You know them by the people they vote for as well as who they hang with.
Doesn't matter if they won't admit it in polite company, they are what they are.
Diamond_Dog
(31,989 posts)Yeah, Donald Trump has an an abrasive personality, but people forget about all the good things he did.
In my mind, every issue, every piece of legislation, every policy he promoted, was conjured up from the angle of keeping certain people down and perpetuating white supremacy. Yours is an excellent question to pose to someone to claims they are not racist and who voted for the orange monster.
Mad_Machine76
(24,412 posts)I just..........can't.
Nasruddin
(752 posts)On 07 Nov 1972 Richard Nixon won 60.7% of the vote and was re-elected president.
By Aug 1974 you couldn't find anyone who had voted for him. I mean, who would admit that they had voted for him.
See also "Bradley effect"
rhiannon55
(2,671 posts)It really helps me better understand the blockheads I still care about.
Klondike Kat
(810 posts)My response was something along the lines of "you support candidates who are, so it looks like it's not a deal-breaker for you". He "unfriended" me on Facebook. Oh, well...
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)There's no point exposing ideological inconsistencies within the conservative electorate because they don't have an ideology. All they know is this country used to be great and a bunch of non-white non-Christian non-men made it so we can't drink 64 oz. Mountain Dews or smoke on airplanes and that's why there's no steel jobs in West Rustfuck, PA.
jaxexpat
(6,820 posts)They maintain walls of echoes around their minds continually reinforced with propaganda, effectively insulating themselves from reality. Oh, but they call this experience in self-imposed artificial isolation "reality". So basically they're just regular people, except dumber.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)The question never comes up, if you're actually not a racist.
Mad_Machine76
(24,412 posts)I think that some low-information voters are just that clueless and reflexively pull the "R" lever because that's what they've done all their lives and don't realize what the GOP stands for now. Not saying that they've ever been a "good" party but some of them were decent and honorable and did some good things. I don't know if they know or accept that the GOP today is as hideous as it has become. Other times, I think that they willingly overlook all of the bad stuff because they strongly agree with *one* thing that the GOP fights for- theocracy, tax cuts, banning abortion, etc.
BobTheSubgenius
(11,563 posts)Almost invariably, when you hear someone start a sentence with "I'm no racist..." the next word you're going to hear is "but," which will be followed by....[something only a racist would say]
Caliman73
(11,736 posts)When you live in a media bubble that tells you that bigots, racists, anti-Semites, misogynists, and idiots are just "truth tellers" then you believe that you just belong to a special group of people who are not sheep.
You never realize that you are a bigot, racist, anti-Semite, misogynist, and idiot who believes in whack-job conspiracy theories. Mind you, they have also been conditioned to believe that ALL OTHER MEDIA is wrong and only they are correct. It is their intrepid little band of truth tellers versus the rest of the liars and sheep.
That is why. Same way that fundamentalist religions tell you that "the world" is evil and only the path of (insert your particular sect) will lead you to eternal life. Same way a street gang or mafia tells you that you are a soldier protecting your "family" or "barrio" or whatever.
It is not a logical process. It is completely emotional and irrational.
windje
(70 posts)Because the candidate being[fill in the blank] is not a deal killer for them.
rlegro
(338 posts)Replicant legislators who increasingly now use this statement, or its equivalent: "I believe in getting vaccinated against COVID but I also believe in personal choice and freedom so while I urge my constituents to get vaccinated, I remind them that this choice is entirely theirs and should never be a government mandate."
Cognitively dissonant in the larger context, but it sort of might get the job done in terms of elected Repubs innoculating themselves against an increasingly dubious, straying voter base. At great cost to the entire populace, of course.
The Wizard
(12,545 posts)their Italian, Irish, Black, Jewish, Hispanic etc... friend instead of just friend is a bigot.