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FakeNoose

(32,634 posts)
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 01:08 PM Oct 2021

An Ohio COVID patient treated with ivermectin after wife sued hospital has died

(link): https://www.post-gazette.com/news/health/2021/10/04/Ohio-COVID-patient-livestock-jeffrey-smith-drug-ivermectin-judge-order-hospital-wife-sued-dies/stories/202110040083

Pittsburgh Post-Gazette Oct. 4, 2021

An Ohio man diagnosed with COVID-19 whose wife sued to force a hospital to give him the anti-parasitic drug ivermectin has died, his attorney said. Jeffrey Smith, 51, died on Sept. 25, his attorney, Jonathan Davidson, of Hamilton, told WXIX-TV in Cincinnati.

In August, an Ohio judge ordered West Chester Hospital to treat Mr. Smith with ivermectin after his wife sued, alleging that the facility refused to give her husband the drug, despite him having a doctor’s prescription.

Since mid-July, Mr. Smith had been the intensive care unit, battling a severe case of COVID-19, according to court records. His wife and guardian, Julie Smith, argued that ivermectin — a deworming drug that some people are using to prevent or treat COVID-19, despite several public health agencies advising against it — was her husband’s last shot at survival.

But then last month, a different judge reversed that order after Mrs. Smith and the doctor who prescribed her husband the ivermectin failed to provide “convincing evidence” at a court hearing to show that the drug could significantly improve his condition.


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Another one bites the dust?

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An Ohio COVID patient treated with ivermectin after wife sued hospital has died (Original Post) FakeNoose Oct 2021 OP
2-1/2 months in the ICU Turbineguy Oct 2021 #1
As soon as they unload their latest consignment of meth... Aristus Oct 2021 #3
Yep, and who paid for that woman's lawsuit? FakeNoose Oct 2021 #4
One less trump voter... Wounded Bear Oct 2021 #2
The prescribing doctor and the judge were enablers FakeNoose Oct 2021 #5
If monoclonal antibody treatments are available..why wouldn't this man asiliveandbreathe Oct 2021 #6
The antibodies only work when given early. nt Phoenix61 Oct 2021 #7
I didn't know that..you would think though, this man might have been helped asiliveandbreathe Oct 2021 #9
I think many convince themselves it's not Phoenix61 Oct 2021 #11
They don't believe in COVID until they are at death's door. lagomorph777 Oct 2021 #12
From what I understand... Salviati Oct 2021 #16
They would have had to seek help at the early stage, in order to get it. Mariana Oct 2021 #20
same thing with Merck's new drug lapfog_1 Oct 2021 #10
Florida and a few other Southern states got most of the antibodies early on. LisaL Oct 2021 #25
Another covid suicide... Ohio Joe Oct 2021 #8
I believe we should call them exactly that FakeNoose Oct 2021 #19
I have a good friend who is critical care nurse in a local hospital and he told me that once ... Botany Oct 2021 #13
Many Pittsburghers have moved into southern Butler County FakeNoose Oct 2021 #22
Butler has taken a nosedive over the past few decades. Act_of_Reparation Oct 2021 #27
There are still a lot of jobs in Allegheny County FakeNoose Oct 2021 #28
Seems like if the man had a legal Rx, she could have gotten it filled, and brought it to him to take Hugh_Lebowski Oct 2021 #14
I retired a few years ago, but back then NO you couldn't bring in your own meds. Runningdawg Oct 2021 #18
You don't bring medications into the hospital. LisaL Oct 2021 #26
After I had shoulder surgery and was in a ton of pain, and no doctor was around to approve narcotics Hugh_Lebowski Oct 2021 #29
Shouldda sent more money. lindysalsagal Oct 2021 #15
Republican "thinking" ain't too good on this pandemic shit Champp Oct 2021 #17
She'll now sue the hospital and doctors for failing to save her husband. sinkingfeeling Oct 2021 #21
They should have bounced him out of the ICU and let her treat him at home greenjar_01 Oct 2021 #23
Instead of putting him on the ventilator FakeNoose Oct 2021 #24
That's a shame... budkin Oct 2021 #30
Yes friend, I'm chuckling FakeNoose Oct 2021 #31

Turbineguy

(37,324 posts)
1. 2-1/2 months in the ICU
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 01:11 PM
Oct 2021

What's the co-pay on that?

Or are all those idiots who got vaccinated paying the bill?

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
6. If monoclonal antibody treatments are available..why wouldn't this man
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 01:17 PM
Oct 2021

be treated ..I don't get it...Desatin seems to think it is the wonder drug..I am not in a position to to say yea or nay...but ...wth...Invermectin??? WTH

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
9. I didn't know that..you would think though, this man might have been helped
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 01:29 PM
Oct 2021

in his early stage..unless he went from not severe to beyond help overnight..so sad so many have blinders on, for whatever reason, they did not get the vaccine ..

Phoenix61

(17,003 posts)
11. I think many convince themselves it's not
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 01:36 PM
Oct 2021

Covid so don’t seek care until they literally can’t breath.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
12. They don't believe in COVID until they are at death's door.
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 01:37 PM
Oct 2021

Then they show up at the ER and demand fantasy treatments.

Salviati

(6,008 posts)
16. From what I understand...
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 02:13 PM
Oct 2021

... while it used to be that there was a pretty good supply of them, the Delta surge amongst the unvaccinated has driven demand up a lot, so there is now not as plentiful a supply as pre-delta.

Mariana

(14,856 posts)
20. They would have had to seek help at the early stage, in order to get it.
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 02:34 PM
Oct 2021

So many of these people get sick and just wait until they have serious trouble breathing, and then they show up at the ER or call 911. By then it's usually too late for the monoclonal antibody treatment to work.

lapfog_1

(29,199 posts)
10. same thing with Merck's new drug
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 01:34 PM
Oct 2021

needs to be given within 5 days of the onset of symptoms.

The big difference is a) cost and b) delivery method (2 pills a day for 5 days versus a visit to a clinic to drip the drug into your veins).

Of course, the vaccine is nearly free (very low cost, picked up by the government).

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
25. Florida and a few other Southern states got most of the antibodies early on.
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 04:18 PM
Oct 2021

Not a lot was left for other states.

Botany

(70,501 posts)
13. I have a good friend who is critical care nurse in a local hospital and he told me that once ...
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 01:41 PM
Oct 2021

... goes to the ICU and gets put on assisted breathing that in most cases they die. They guy could have gotten a
vaccination or even been treated with monoclonal antibodies a few months ago but he and or his wife read some
Russian produced crap Facebook or something (WLW radio) like that, treated himself with a vet medicine to treat
parasites in livestock guts, and now he is dead. Oh well.

BTW Butler County used to be rural and very red and now it is becoming home to suburban sprawl from Cincinnati
and is still very red.

FakeNoose

(32,634 posts)
22. Many Pittsburghers have moved into southern Butler County
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 03:23 PM
Oct 2021

More new homes and developments have been built in Butler than just about anywhere around here. That has been the trend for at least 20 years. So yes, it's still red but not as much as before. Younger families and even singles are buying property because they think they're saving taxes. Hint: they aren't. Taxes are going up like crazy.

I'm in Allegheny county, City of Pittsburgh and I can tell you how I feel about this. My neighborhood is roughly 50% black and 50% white and I'm perfectly comfortable with it. Those who aren't comfortable will not even look for houses here. They're buying in Butler, Beaver, Westmoreland or Washington counties where it's no more than maybe 5%-10% black residents. It used to be called "white flight" - is that still a thing? They're paying way more in taxes and property costs, also commuting costs and everything else. But you know, gotta keep up with the Joneses an 'nat. Being a racist is expensive.

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
27. Butler has taken a nosedive over the past few decades.
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 04:24 PM
Oct 2021

What are these PA transplants doing for work? It's not like AK steel is a reliable employer these days.

FakeNoose

(32,634 posts)
28. There are still a lot of jobs in Allegheny County
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 04:36 PM
Oct 2021

We have high tech jobs and medical research/hospital & university jobs now that have replaced the old steel industry suppliers. But the idea is people can work here, and they think it's fine if they live 50 miles away and commute by car every day.

I'm not going to comment on how destructive that is for the environment and all, but that's how most of them think. They think they beat the system and they have the "best of both worlds" but I rather doubt it. They spend more time in the cars every day than they do with their families.

I really hope that today's college students are learning to think smaller and enjoy city living.

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
14. Seems like if the man had a legal Rx, she could have gotten it filled, and brought it to him to take
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 01:44 PM
Oct 2021

at the hospital.

Would a hospital physically stop a patient from taking a legally obtained medication brought in by their spouse? They might strenuously advise against it, and make note of it for legal/CYA purposes but I don't think they'd stop it from happening would they?

Runningdawg

(4,516 posts)
18. I retired a few years ago, but back then NO you couldn't bring in your own meds.
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 02:15 PM
Oct 2021

If a patients family repeatedly tried to give the med and the patient was not on life support, I am reasonably sure they would have been kicked out.
But you watch, now this woman will sue for wrongful death.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
26. You don't bring medications into the hospital.
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 04:19 PM
Oct 2021

Never mind he was on the vent, how was she going to give it to him?

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
29. After I had shoulder surgery and was in a ton of pain, and no doctor was around to approve narcotics
Tue Oct 5, 2021, 05:22 PM
Oct 2021

I was told my mom could fill the Vicodin Rx I had already been given, and bring me some to tide me over, at the hospital.

I was, however, expected to leave that day ... and also ... 9/11 was happening RIGHT THEN, so ... maybe a unique case.

Champp

(2,114 posts)
17. Republican "thinking" ain't too good on this pandemic shit
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 02:14 PM
Oct 2021

Sad what Republicans are doing to themselves and their families.

FakeNoose

(32,634 posts)
24. Instead of putting him on the ventilator
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 03:31 PM
Oct 2021

Once he was on the vent, the hospital couldn't take him off without killing him.

FakeNoose

(32,634 posts)
31. Yes friend, I'm chuckling
Tue Oct 5, 2021, 09:00 PM
Oct 2021

... because I'm also a frequent poster of Seinfeld gifs.

This is a good one!

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