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irisblue

(32,973 posts)
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 10:30 PM Oct 2021

NJ teacher pulls off the hajib from a 2nd Grader

Source--https://www.nj.com/education/2021/10/nj-olympian-says-elementary-school-teacher-pulled-hijab-from-7-year-old-girls-head.html

snip--The young student resisted by trying to hold onto her hijab, but the teacher pulled the hijab off, exposing her hair to the class,” wrote Muhammad.

The teacher then told the student “that her hair was beautiful and she did not have to wear hijab to school anymore,’ Muhammad wrote.

“Imagine being a child and stripped of your clothing in front of your classmates?” Muhammad wrote. “Imagine the humiliation and trauma this experience has caused her. This is abuse. Schools should be a haven for all of our kids to feel safe, welcome and protected — no matter their faith.”

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2nd Source--https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/essex/2021/10/08/seth-boyden-elementary-student-hijab-removed-posts-say/6049951001/


snip--Today, we were made aware of an allegation of discrimination and immediately began an investigation," the statement read. "The district takes matters of discrimination extremely seriously."

snip--The school district's statement said that the teacher involved would be granted due process, and said that social media was not a "reliable forum" for due process.

snip--Gov. Phil Murphy tweeted late Friday afternoon: "Deeply disturbed by these accusations. Our diversity is our greatest strength and every child should feel safe and welcome in school, regardless of their race, religion, or culture. We fully support [the school district's] investigation into the matter."

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NJ teacher pulls off the hajib from a 2nd Grader (Original Post) irisblue Oct 2021 OP
I hope hope hope this isn't true, but... irisblue Oct 2021 #1
AWFUL! elleng Oct 2021 #2
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2021 #10
Nothing 'okay' with me about teacher ripping of student's hijab, and disrespecting her culture. elleng Oct 2021 #11
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2021 #13
'Our diversity is our greatest strength and every child should feel safe and welcome in school,' elleng Oct 2021 #14
Post removed Post removed Oct 2021 #17
'Our diversity is our greatest strength and every child should feel safe and welcome in school,' elleng Oct 2021 #21
As the story plays out, kid wore a hoodie as a hijab. Hijab was not under the hoodie. 3Hotdogs Oct 2021 #30
DAMN parents like that. elleng Oct 2021 #37
The school district's statement said Steelrolled Oct 2021 #3
See my post 30 update of the story. 3Hotdogs Oct 2021 #31
Sounds like a call to DYFS needs to be made and an investigation opened. TheBlackAdder Oct 2021 #4
See my update on the story, post #30 3Hotdogs Oct 2021 #32
Mom posted a video, since deleted. Kid tells her story with mother coaching her. 3Hotdogs Oct 2021 #5
Which social media site was this? irisblue Oct 2021 #7
WTF? Demobrat Oct 2021 #8
IF the kid was abused. I live in the town. 3Hotdogs Oct 2021 #23
Wow. I hope it DIDN'T happen. Demobrat Oct 2021 #25
See my update on the story, Post # 30. 3Hotdogs Oct 2021 #33
Something doesn't smell right about this. nt Raine Oct 2021 #15
This goes into the "awfuleverything" bucket, methinks... RockRaven Oct 2021 #6
What gives teacher right to even touch a student? rickyhall Oct 2021 #9
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2021 #12
I thought only adults wore those not little kids 7yrs old. nt Raine Oct 2021 #16
According to Islam the girl should start to practice Islam ( including wearing Hijab ) elleng Oct 2021 #18
Thanks,. I didn't know I thought it was grownups, good to know nt. Raine Oct 2021 #19
You're welcome. elleng Oct 2021 #20
Yup, at least the worst have been removed. nt Raine Oct 2021 #22
Kid/parents are Nation of Islam, 3Hotdogs Oct 2021 #24
That's just one opinion. JI7 Oct 2021 #28
It is correct, according to an Islamic friend of mine. elleng Oct 2021 #29
Who wants to bet... MissMillie Oct 2021 #26
I would take that bet.. Jewish teacher in an upscale suburban neighborhood, in a Democratic voting 3Hotdogs Oct 2021 #27
Read my update on the story. 3Hotdogs Oct 2021 #34
There is more to the story I see. KentuckyWoman Oct 2021 #35
Thank you to you and 3Hotdogs for providing this information Hav Oct 2021 #36
Girls that young don't have to wear it yet treestar Oct 2021 #38
Interesting tension for us in this type of story treestar Oct 2021 #39

elleng

(130,895 posts)
2. AWFUL!
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 10:37 PM
Oct 2021

My grandkids are in school in NJ, kindergarten and 2d grade; they're happy in school, daughter likes governor, but says their neighborhood NOT good, so my fingers crossed for their well-being.

Response to elleng (Reply #2)

elleng

(130,895 posts)
11. Nothing 'okay' with me about teacher ripping of student's hijab, and disrespecting her culture.
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 01:22 AM
Oct 2021

'Our diversity is our greatest strength and every child should feel safe and welcome in school,' said Governor Murphy.

Response to elleng (Reply #11)

elleng

(130,895 posts)
14. 'Our diversity is our greatest strength and every child should feel safe and welcome in school,'
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 01:31 AM
Oct 2021

said Governor Murphy.

Response to elleng (Reply #11)

elleng

(130,895 posts)
21. 'Our diversity is our greatest strength and every child should feel safe and welcome in school,'
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 02:09 AM
Oct 2021

said Governor Murphy.

That's my culture, too.

3Hotdogs

(12,375 posts)
30. As the story plays out, kid wore a hoodie as a hijab. Hijab was not under the hoodie.
Sun Oct 10, 2021, 09:32 AM
Oct 2021

Last edited Sun Oct 10, 2021, 12:40 PM - Edit history (1)

But the hoodie was over the kid's eyes. Teacher asked the kid to take off the hoodie. When teacher saw there was no hijab under the hoodie, she left the kid alone.

Kid goes home and tells mother and the story "explodes."

Mother posts a video with the kid explaining what happened. Mom is in background coaching the kid. Kid is chuckling over the telling of the "tramatic" event.

Mother retracts the video.

Mother's friends start a GoFundMe campaign which raised $60.00 and was then closed down.

Looks like the entire story is going in one direction.... straight up the mother's ass.

 

Steelrolled

(2,022 posts)
3. The school district's statement said
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 10:43 PM
Oct 2021

that the teacher involved would be granted due process, and said that social media was not a "reliable forum" for due process.

Yeah, right. Where have they been living for the last ten years?

3Hotdogs

(12,375 posts)
5. Mom posted a video, since deleted. Kid tells her story with mother coaching her.
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 11:36 PM
Oct 2021

On a link, a friend congratulates mom.. "You hit the jackpot."

Demobrat

(8,976 posts)
8. WTF?
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 12:26 AM
Oct 2021

The kid is abused by her teacher in front of the whole class, and that’s a “jackpot”?

She’ll remember it the rest of her life. No amount of money is worth that.

3Hotdogs

(12,375 posts)
23. IF the kid was abused. I live in the town.
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 07:59 AM
Oct 2021

This is a second grade class. The woman has been teaching in that class for over 20 years without a complaint and local community message board is supportive of the teacher.

The FB video has kid explaining what happened. In the middle, she asks her mother "Say it like this?" Mom chuckles. Response to the video has a friend, "You hit the jackpot.: Mom laughs.

We can be confident that the video on the phone (or wherever) will be subpoenaed by the police or by the teacher's lawyer.

Demobrat

(8,976 posts)
25. Wow. I hope it DIDN'T happen.
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 09:09 AM
Oct 2021

Although if it didn’t and the kid is being coached, she’s going to have a different set of problems with a mother like that.

And the poor teacher.

Dang.

rickyhall

(4,889 posts)
9. What gives teacher right to even touch a student?
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 12:31 AM
Oct 2021

Do your "due process" then, if true, fire teacher's ass.

Response to rickyhall (Reply #9)

elleng

(130,895 posts)
18. According to Islam the girl should start to practice Islam ( including wearing Hijab )
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 01:48 AM
Oct 2021

once she get her first period. Before that age she is not obligated to pray, fast or wear hijab. Some parents try to make the girl get used to practice Islam at young age to make it easy for her when she grow up.

At what age do Muslim girls begin to wear a hijab? - Quorahttps://www.quora.com › At-what-age-do-Muslim-girls-be...

3Hotdogs

(12,375 posts)
24. Kid/parents are Nation of Islam,
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 08:06 AM
Oct 2021

Last edited Sun Oct 10, 2021, 09:36 AM - Edit history (1)

They may have different belief than mid-eastern muslims.

Also a racist foundation of their beliefs. (Read "The Autobiography of Malcolm X" to learn about the racism of this group.

3Hotdogs

(12,375 posts)
27. I would take that bet.. Jewish teacher in an upscale suburban neighborhood, in a Democratic voting
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 06:56 PM
Oct 2021

town.

N.J. Education Association has funded all but one Democratic candidate since 1970 when I joined as a member.

District has. 94% vac compliance. Most non-compliance is with custodial staff.

KentuckyWoman

(6,679 posts)
35. There is more to the story I see.
Sun Oct 10, 2021, 09:44 AM
Oct 2021
https://patch.com/new-jersey/maplewood/maplewood-teachers-attorney-teacher-did-not-remove-hijab

"In accordance with school policy, Ms. Herman directed a student in her class to pull down the hood on a hooded sweatshirt because it was blocking her eyes – and immediately rescinded that request when she realized that the student was wearing the hood in place of, rather than on top of, her usual hijab."

"The misinformation shared on social media has caused tremendous harm to Ms. Herman – a teacher who, after more than 30 years of devoting her heart and soul to children of all backgrounds, has now had to ask for police protection due to the threats she is receiving following the dissemination of false information on social media," Harris said.

...

Muhammad, the author of a book about wearing a hijab, added, "I wrote this book with the intention that moments like this would never happen again. When will it stop?"

Hav

(5,969 posts)
36. Thank you to you and 3Hotdogs for providing this information
Sun Oct 10, 2021, 10:03 AM
Oct 2021

Like many, my first reaction was wtf, why would a teacher do this.
But if this is indeed fabricated then it's just fucked up and I hope the teacher sues. Thankfully, the school in this case didn't fire her on the spot and gave her a chance to clear things up. The other pupils in the class could probably help to get to the truth.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
39. Interesting tension for us in this type of story
Sun Oct 10, 2021, 12:18 PM
Oct 2021

We don't agree with people not being able to follow their religion and value cultural diversity.

But as progressives it should bother us that this is a form of female oppression to have to wear something to cover up your hair if you are a woman. Feminism and cultural diversity collide.

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