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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThis explains Trump's constant fire hose of chaos.
The GOP is reported to be 25 percent of the electorate.
Trump's share of GOP voters is said to be 44 percent.
This means that he only controls roughly 10 percent of the electorate!
There is zero way he can win a presidential election with 10 percent in his bag.
The constant chaos from him is meant to obfuscate, confuse, to make him seem larger than he is.
And to conceal the facts so that cheating/stealing will produce numbers that seem normal.
He's a loser. 10 percent of the electorate in his pocket? He's a loser.
A blowhard.
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,615 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,083 posts)certainot
(9,090 posts)authoritarians fear uncertainty - it's sometimes measured with the uncertainty avoidance index (UAI)
there is a heritable mostly old world predisposition for that intolerance of uncertainty, often caused by sex on the wrong brain. chaos gives them an excuse to impose order, and their leaders are usually sex on the wrong brain freaks who got so scared they had to learn to reduce the world to absolutes - black white, right wrong, etc and that requires massive capacity to deny reality.
when trump says "i alone" etc (there are a few other things like that he says a lot ), he's creating certitude they all can worship and he's so insane he actually believes it.
that's my opinion of the secret of authoritarian power and i'm sticking to it
PortTack
(32,767 posts)Response to PortTack (Reply #2)
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Joinfortmill
(14,419 posts)hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)He doesnt. Neither do the idiots in Congress and governorships and judicial offices that jump when he tells them to.
Look at the redistricting in Texas and tell me they arent planning something.
spanone
(135,831 posts)Vinca
(50,271 posts)it might not matter how small his voting base is. With all the tricks being enacted into law in the states, it might not matter if Trump has a majority or a minority of the votes. Some of the legislatures are going to toss the ballots in the crapper and send whatever electors they want to Washington.
The point is that he cannot win, legitimately.
And so he blusters to make himself look more powerful and bigger than he actually is.
And the minions work to steal it.
Dan
(3,562 posts)wnylib
(21,457 posts)What does not accepting it look like?
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Faux pas
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druidity33
(6,446 posts)80-90% of Republicans will vote for him anyway. Who else have they got? Plus you've got 40% of Indies who ALWAYS vote Republican. Regardless of how "independent" they claim to be in polls.
Lasher
(27,594 posts)He had no path to victory, I said.
Sucha NastyWoman
(2,748 posts)And again, there seems like no way, but . . . .
Grasswire2
(13,569 posts)He has no LAWFUL path to victory.
He does not have the numbers to win.
And so they lie, cheat, and steal and manufacture chaos to make him seem larger and more successful than he really is.
It's all a charade. But it allows him to steal, simply through sleight of hand and chaos.
Lasher
(27,594 posts)I just said you reminded me of myself in 2016. It was true when I first said so, and it's true now. A lot of us were stunned when TFG won then. Let's not forget that.
2Gingersnaps
(1,000 posts)He needs a win to beat the clock on prosecution and to pardon his enablers. So far only Cohen, Papadopolous, and Manafort have seen any jail time, unless I am missing some little vermin skittering away. And if I were Cohen and went to jail for paying HIS porn stars I would be pretty pissed.
twodogsbarking
(9,749 posts)What he does actually works, for him. Eff everyone else.
DownriverDem
(6,228 posts)then are DC repubs so attached to trump? Why are they afraid of their voters ?
Dan
(3,562 posts)Response to Dan (Reply #17)
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2Gingersnaps
(1,000 posts)The twit who is now a "patriotic martyr" for bashing through a door to "hang Mike Pence and put a bullet in Nancy Pelosi's friggin skull?" The ones who chase down school children and scream at them because their parents love them enough to choose safety over dogma? The ones who primary life long "Christian conservative" Republicans if they don't go full on bat shit? The ones wanting to kidnap and "put on trial" Republican election officials or Democratic governors? The ones OK with judge, jury, and executioner in the streets for selling loose cigarettes, kicking and beating the life out of DC police? These people think they are Washington crossing the Delaware for Orange Jesus like a demented Thomas Kincaide painting.
Tommymac
(7,263 posts)It's not the size of the coup but the motion of the deception that matters.
And unfortunately the corporate MSM is on TFG's side. They are a loudspeaker that amplifies that already loud 10% minority.
Kaleva
(36,299 posts)Nicholas II abdicated because of the events of the February Revolution. Lenin didn't come to power until later in the year.
"The February Revolution (Russian: Февра́льская револю́ция, IPA: [fʲɪvˈralʲskəjə rʲɪvɐˈlʲutsɨjə], tr. Fevrálʹskaya revolyútsiya), known in Soviet historiography as the February Bourgeois Democratic Revolution[2] and sometimes as the March Revolution,[3] was the first of two revolutions which took place in Russia in 1917.
The main events of the revolution took place in and near Petrograd (present-day Saint Petersburg), the then-capital of Russia, where long-standing discontent with the monarchy erupted into mass protests against food rationing on 23 February Old Style (8 March New Style).[4] Revolutionary activity lasted about eight days, involving mass demonstrations and violent armed clashes with police and gendarmes, the last loyal forces of the Russian monarchy. On 27 February O.S. (12 March N.S.) the garrison forces of the capital sided with the revolutionaries. Three days later Tsar Nicholas II abdicated, ending Romanov dynastic rule and the Russian Empire. A Russian Provisional Government under Prince Georgy Lvov replaced the Council of Ministers of Russia."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/February_Revolution
NJCher
(35,669 posts)It would have to be documented, of course. For example, where did the figure about the gop being 25% of the electorate come from?
Maybe Rachel would be interested in this and could expand it into a story.
Once shes done that story, others will do their own take on it. No, not copy it, do their own investigation and form their own angle under this topic.
A few days ago, someone posted about how the current problem with the congressional bill they are trying so hard to get passed was that is only discussed in dollars. Yesterday I noticed that they are breaking it out with bullet points, saying what is actually in the bill.
SayItLoud
(1,702 posts)mjvpi
(1,388 posts)And of those 70 million, the distribution is the problem. That all of them are not hard core supporters doesnt mean that they will vote D. The red state senators represent so many fewer people than the blue state senators, yet when they vote its equal. I see that as reality. Trumps hardcore base consists of many people who wouldnt normally vote or pay attention to politics. Its like rooting for a football team to them. Then you add in all the people who vote R simply for tax breaks that are threatening to go away just a little bit under Bidens agenda. You have a marriage of the stupid and the powerful. Its still scary as hell.
Kaleva
(36,299 posts)ymetca
(1,182 posts)that lots of well-heeled folks knew what kind of person he was when they voted for him.
But their wealth only cares about one thing - keeping it. And if that means voting for Dummkopf Hitler, they will. That's the most scary part of all this.
The 1% is telling us exactly what they think of us, and Democracy in general. They have escape routes, in case the shit hits the fan. We, the hoi polloi, do not.
2Gingersnaps
(1,000 posts)They have worked steadfastly since FDR for this moment.
NullTuples
(6,017 posts)There are very real reasons the GOP has been manipulating elections since 2000, on an ever-increasing basis.
meadowlander
(4,395 posts)Evolve Dammit
(16,733 posts)MFM008
(19,808 posts)and i mean anything for any kind of attention.
Equomba
(197 posts)I haven't a clue as to what this means. Control of the electorate? What percentage of the electorate does Biden control?
According to a Pew Research poll, around a third of registered voters in the U.S. (34%) identify as independents, while 33% identify as Democrats and 29% identify as Republicans, according to a Center analysis of Americans partisan identification based on surveys of more than 12,000 registered voters in 2018 and 2019.
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/10/26/what-the-2020-electorate-looks-like-by-party-race-and-ethnicity-age-education-and-religion/
So what do you do with the 34% who are independents? They vote, you know. And then of course there is voter turnout, not to mention the electoral college, and those who cross party lines.
Please elaborate.
D23MIURG23
(2,850 posts)Its the assumption that no self-identified Independants or Democrats are in the Trump cult.
Between 40 and 50% of the country consistently approved of him when he was president. It may still be true that the number of hardcore Trumpers is smaller than you'd think, but they are numerous enough to be a problem.
LiberalFighter
(50,928 posts)Last edited Mon Oct 11, 2021, 01:44 PM - Edit history (1)
Corrected
Captain Zero
(6,805 posts)I think. did you?
Maine Abu El Banat
(3,479 posts)cstanleytech
(26,291 posts)money if I read it correctly he can continue to use for his own personal use in varies ways until he declares himself a candidate.
Maine Abu El Banat
(3,479 posts)Would vote for anyone with a R. "I don't like him but at least he's not a Democrat" would be heard far and wide. And with the electorial college we are not out of the trumpian sewer yet.
wryter2000
(46,045 posts)But if 100% of Republicans are that way, its still 25% overall.
Farmer-Rick
(10,170 posts)It puts things in perspective.
The bottom line. The majority of the GOPers don't want Trump to run again
And a huge majority of American citizens don't want Trump to run again.
But you know who does want Trump to run again?
Murdock, Zuckerberg, Koch, Gates, Waltons, Google, Bozo errr....Bezos, and the filthy rich capitalists who own our prisoners for profit system (modeled after China's).
The filthy rich picked Trump, paid to get him elected and protect him today. He is their first choice because he is them. Trump and his filthy billionaire capitalist are the oligarchs and owners of the US. They want them some more Trump. He is them.
wryter2000
(46,045 posts)Of Republicans. Even if it was 90%, that would be 22.5%.