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What took so long for another mass killing (Original Post) wilt the stilt Oct 2012 OP
So you're hoping we "start averaging one a month"? cherokeeprogressive Oct 2012 #1
Was sarcasm. tblue Oct 2012 #2
The OP is obvious sarcasm. The poster does not JanMichael Oct 2012 #7
fund mental health neversaydie Oct 2012 #3
I'm not sure that's the case in this one. surrealAmerican Oct 2012 #4
maybe not in this one, but in many neversaydie Oct 2012 #5
Read in another thread the shooter may have been a Marine who was deployed overseas. TheMightyFavog Oct 2012 #6
they need help too neversaydie Oct 2012 #10
No it did not take almost 3 months... ljm2002 Oct 2012 #8
No it took 3 days there was another spa shooting upaloopa Oct 2012 #9
 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
1. So you're hoping we "start averaging one a month"?
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 05:46 PM
Oct 2012

Strange thought. I'm here thinking "Gee I'm glad this didn't happen sooner", and there you are thinking "I hope it happens again soon".

Strange thought indeed.

Oh and it's we're, not were.

neversaydie

(69 posts)
3. fund mental health
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 06:00 PM
Oct 2012

I think if we spent more on mental health programs and supported early diagnosis and invervention/support, we would see a definite decrease. Of course we need to chop the balls of the NRA and get illegal guns of the streets, that might help too. Don't we usually find out after the fact that the shooter had mental health issues and/or was emotionally disturbed? The safety net for the mentally ill has been cut to shreds; maybe it's time to focus more attention and more $$ there. Maybe the rights of the mentally ill will become the next big civil rights movement... me thinks?

surrealAmerican

(11,360 posts)
4. I'm not sure that's the case in this one.
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 06:06 PM
Oct 2012

This appears to be someone who had a restraining order, but we've yet to see any history of mental illness. It doesn't mean we don't need more funding for mental health care, just that it won't solve all our problems.

Welcome to DU.

neversaydie

(69 posts)
5. maybe not in this one, but in many
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 06:17 PM
Oct 2012

True. But I think it will solve many of our problems. I've had a lot of experience over the last 5 years dealing with the mental health system. There is a LOT of room for improvement.

Is there a discussion group on this specific topic? I have read a library on this issue, trying to get a handle on what was happening some people very close to me. I read to understand them, to understand the system, to learn how to support them. One of the most disturbing things I learned early on was how the mentally ill are so easily criminalized and/or end up in the criminal justice system. I fought hard so many times to make sure my people were not pulled into that system.

Anyway, I do indeed have all the answers (ha ha) and I just need to know where to share them.

TheMightyFavog

(13,770 posts)
6. Read in another thread the shooter may have been a Marine who was deployed overseas.
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 06:27 PM
Oct 2012

Not only does our civilian mental health system need overhauling, but the VA system as well.

neversaydie

(69 posts)
10. they need help too
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 08:17 PM
Oct 2012

It is shameful that this country doesn't do more to help the men and women who have served and who are struggling mental illness like PTSD. at least it looks like we're moving toward parity where, at least as far as I know, health insurance companies can no longer limit the number of visits they'll cover for mental health services like therapy.

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
8. No it did not take almost 3 months...
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 06:36 PM
Oct 2012

...from the article at

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/10/21/14596819-three-killed-in-shooting-at-milwaukee-area-salon-suspect-found-dead-at-scene?lite

It was the second mass shooting in the Milwaukee area in just 2½ months. A gunman opened fire at a Sikh temple near Milwaukee on Aug. 5, killing six people and wounding at least three others, before being shot to death.

Three people were killed and a fourth was injured last week when a gunman stormed a hair salon in Casselberry, Fla. The gunman then killed himself.


So there was one mass shooting 2.5 months ago and one a week ago, then this one. Looks like it averages out to more than one a month already.

I know you're being sarcastic, but really, we're already there.
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