There's Now CDC Data on How Much More Likely Unvaxxed Adults Are to Die of Covid

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

Getting vaccinated can significantly reduce your chances of dying from Covid-19. Like, really significantly.

Throughout the month of August, unvaccinated adults were 11 times more likely to die from Covid-19 than fully vaccinated adults, according to new data released by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The CDC also found that unvaccinated adults faced a six times as likely to contract the virus than fully vaccinated adults. The data marks the first time the CDC has released information about how Covid-19 risks can differ depending on vaccination status.

Currently, according to the CDC, nearly 77 percent of people in the U.S. age 12 or older have received at least one shot of the vaccine, while 66.5 percent are fully vaccinated. The CDC recommended that Pfizer recipients over the age of 65 or those in high-risk categories receive an additional booster shot, and an FDA panel on Thursday endorsed boosters for high-risk groups with the Moderna vaccine. Since April of this year, fully vaccinated adults have died from Covid-19 at a minimal rate: 1.2 deaths per 100,000 people.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/now-cdc-data-much-more-201921102.html

[dalton99a]

1. Kick

[SheltieLover]

2. K&R!

[proud patriot]

3. Important

Kick

[Hugh_Lebowski]

4. Now we just need some solid proof that having contracted it before is way worse than the vaccine

You'd be surprised if you really dig into it, the evidence that the vaccine is way better is kinda thin. Mainly it relies on variability, wherein you don't know how much 'getting it before' impacts your ability to fight it off vs. the vaccine. Maybe a really mild case doesn't do much to build your immunity, that kind of thing.

But there's a lot of people who think if they got sick with it before, like at all, they have just as good of protection, I know a few of these people. We need more studies showing it's not true, or at least a strong statement from some studies that show it's not 'worth the risk' to go with 'natural immunity'.

Just saying.

[C Moon]

5. That's a very good point.

In 2020, my sister-in-law (not an anti-vaxxer or anti-masker, or trumpster), claimed she believed she already had COVID in December 2019, so she wasn't that worried about it. She did get the vaccine, though.

I think there are a lot of people like her, who aren't getting vaccinated.

[Jim G.]

7. Well Hello!

You never give up do you?

[AZSkiffyGeek]

8. Cool story

Joined up just to tell us vaccines are causing mass deaths?

[calimary]

9. Welcome to DU, bushy hippie!

About the technical end, I know next-to-nothing. Thank goodness we have good technical people here!

Glad you're here, too. And my husband and I are vaccinated, but very willing to get a booster shot when it becomes available. He has an MD in his immediate family background, and I have an RN in mine, so we both know to take seriously what the health experts say.

[democrattotheend]

10. Is there any data on how much vaccination reduces transmission risk?

I've been looking but have not found much quantifying how much less likely vaccinated people are to spread the virus to others compared to unvaccinated people. I guess if vaccinated people are less likely to get it they are less likely to spread it, but have there been any studies showing that vaccinated people who do get it are any less likely to spread it?

[Ms. Toad]

13. Vaccinated individuals who get COVID (even asymptomatic COVID)

transmit at equal rates to unvaccinated individuals with COVD for the first 5 days of the infection, then their ability to transmit tapers off.

So fully vaccinated people who are going to work with "colds" or "allergies" "headaches" are part of the problem.

My employee had "allergies," but tested and mostly isolated from her family. She gave it to all 4 of them, including her vaccinated husband.

[democrattotheend]

14. Thanks

Is there a study that shows that? Also, is there any data on how long unvaccinated people are contagious after they get COVID?

[Ms. Toad]

16. Here's a couple.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2021/08/11/covid-transmission-among-vaccinated-unvaccinated-what-experts-say/5488398001/

https://www.news-medical.net/news/20211001/Similar-viral-load-in-vaccinated-and-unvaccinated-individuals-infected-with-SARS-CoV-2-Delta-variant.aspx

[Ms. Toad]

24. Yes, a number of them are probably fully vaccinated and spreading COVID

But don't discount the masks. A multi-layer, well-fitted cloth mask, worn consistently, provides about as much protection as the J&J vaccine for the wearer, somewhat more for those around the wearer.

[Ms. Toad]

11. That puts the effectiveness at 92% relative to deaths.

Slightly lower than the original testing data.

That puts the effectiveness at preventing disease at 86%. This is likely an extreme underestimate, because since May the CDC only systematically tracked infections severe enough to cause hospitalization.

[ananda]

12. It really can. My nephew got breakthrough Delta..

and did fine, with a few mild symptoms.

Otherwise, I shudder to think about it

[democrattotheend]

15. I'm glad he's okay

Right now I know five people with COVID, two vaccinated and three not (one of the unvaxxed is a six year old). Crazily, the person who seems to be having the hardest time of it out of the five of them is vaccinated and got the monoclonal antibodies. Her six-year-old son just had cold-like symptoms, and her vaccinated husband seemed to recover relatively quickly but not super fast. Of the two unvaccinated adults I know who have COVID right now, the husband seemed to recover quickly and the wife has been sick for a while but is on the mend, and nobody has needed hospitalization. I just hope it stays that way and everyone gets better, as these are all people whom I care about a lot.

[ananda]

17. Good vibes to all of you!

[democrattotheend]

19. Thank you!

Oddly, right now the unvaccinated adults seem to be recovering quicker than the vaccinated ones. But fortunately nobody has needed to go to the hospital.

[fescuerescue]

18. The difference is now only 6 times less likely?

Honestly I thought the vaccine provided much more protection.

That's worrisome.

[fescuerescue]

20. honestly I find only an 11 times difference to be ALOT lower than I would have thought

Even if we had the vaccine from day 1, that would still put us at close to 1 million dead worldwide.

I'm glad we have the vaccine and everyone should take it. But it's not like the Polio or smallpox vaccine which stopped those diseases in their tracks.

It moves the decimal point one place to the left. Which is significant.

Which is nice. But this thing can kill any of us, vaccine or no.

[LisaL]

21. Smallpox produced lifelong natural immunity.

Covid doesn't.
It's a lot harder to create a 100 % effective vaccine against a disease like covid.

[fescuerescue]

22. Yep. Masking and distancing may be something we deal with the rest of our lives.