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msongs

(67,400 posts)
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 05:32 PM Oct 2021

all this fawning over colin powell is disgusting. he lied thru his teeth for

the purpose of justifying an aggressive war that killed hundreds of thousands of civilian men, women, and children. and yet he is being worshipped as some kind of hero. W, Cheney and Powell will all escape justice. that's is profoundly sad IMO

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all this fawning over colin powell is disgusting. he lied thru his teeth for (Original Post) msongs Oct 2021 OP
DURec They should all fucking be in jail n/t leftstreet Oct 2021 #1
none of them were held accountable Skittles Oct 2021 #2
Worse did happened and worse yet is coming. onecaliberal Oct 2021 #22
Same as it ever was. paleotn Oct 2021 #24
when I saw Bolton parading around pimping for Trump Skittles Oct 2021 #25
K&R UTUSN Oct 2021 #3
Yes, truly disgusting. I've even heard MSM imply that Quakerfriend Oct 2021 #4
He resigned in November, 2005 after Shrub Jr. was reelected Ponietz Oct 2021 #27
It's customary in the US to air non-stop hagiographies on its deceased war criminals PSPS Oct 2021 #5
Powell was not President He was against the war joetheman Oct 2021 #6
MyLai.. And admitting his LIE of course did absolutely nothing to bring the dead back niyad Oct 2021 #13
John Negroponte was his protege UpInArms Oct 2021 #18
He lied for BOTH Bushes to advance the calls for... dchill Oct 2021 #19
No, but nice try! Nt USALiberal Oct 2021 #23
They got away with it all and folks said then if you allow them get away with their crimes, abuses, Solly Mack Oct 2021 #7
Powell was disgusting I_UndergroundPanther Oct 2021 #8
Elections have consequences, especially stolen ones. roamer65 Oct 2021 #9
This says it all drmeow Oct 2021 #10
Thanks for posting this Doc Sportello Oct 2021 #11
FAIR is an excellent resource drmeow Oct 2021 #21
Not only got away with it, booked as guest critics n/t hibbing Oct 2021 #12
I totally agree! Richard58 Oct 2021 #14
My feeling exactly ybbor Oct 2021 #15
Have not watched one bit of coverage about him croaking. Jon King Oct 2021 #16
Thank you UpInArms Oct 2021 #17
Yep. I remember that day. calimary Oct 2021 #20
Agreed Orrex Oct 2021 #26
People simply overlook Powell's support of torture of human beings, it's evil traitorsgalore Oct 2021 #28

Quakerfriend

(5,450 posts)
4. Yes, truly disgusting. I've even heard MSM imply that
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 05:41 PM
Oct 2021

the reason he decided not to run for POTUS was because the country wasn’t ready for a black president.

I seem to recall that he sort of disappeared real quickly when it was made clear that there never was any proof of WMDs.

Ponietz

(2,964 posts)
27. He resigned in November, 2005 after Shrub Jr. was reelected
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 08:34 PM
Oct 2021

The world awaited his judgment on the WMDs. What a tool to legitimize the war pigs. Fuck him. Lionizing liars is all about a pathological culture and worldview.

 

joetheman

(1,450 posts)
6. Powell was not President He was against the war
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 05:50 PM
Oct 2021

with Iraq after 9/11 and he went to our Intel folks several times to make sure they were giving him their best intel. Yet, his own Department's intel was doubtful. He was used, fooled, and tooled. I was angry too when he made that presentation. Yet he is a soldier who risked his life for his belief in this country. He isn't the first nor will he be the last to do so. Still, I believe he was a decent man who admitted to his mistakes wore his thorns with a dignity not expressed by many governing officials. He was not an evil man like so many now in power. None of us knows the extent of dishonorable actions in any war by our enemies or ourselves.
I honor him for his service. And i think he should have resigned when asked to convince others of something he didn't believe himself.

niyad

(113,278 posts)
13. MyLai.. And admitting his LIE of course did absolutely nothing to bring the dead back
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 07:01 PM
Oct 2021

to life, to heal thee wounded, to restore artifacts, or replenish treasuries. One does not obey unlawful orders, nor perpetrate lies.

The fellating and hero worship of this man is completely undeserved.

dchill

(38,474 posts)
19. He lied for BOTH Bushes to advance the calls for...
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 07:25 PM
Oct 2021

...TWO wars in Iraq. To me, those are legacy-negating fouls. It is scurrilous to apologize for wrongs that are just repeated.

Solly Mack

(90,763 posts)
7. They got away with it all and folks said then if you allow them get away with their crimes, abuses,
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 05:50 PM
Oct 2021

and lies that worse will come along, emboldened by knowing exactly what they can get away with, and cause even more harm to the country and harm to people.

Well, they were right.

The Bush administration's crimes, abuses of office, and lies were an attack on our democracy and democratic institutions - in addition to all the damage those actions caused for other people - they were also an attack on our country.

And they got away with it. All of it.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
9. Elections have consequences, especially stolen ones.
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 05:55 PM
Oct 2021

All this crap was the result of the 2000 stolen election.

If that election had been fair, no Bush, no Cheney, no Powell, no 9/11, no wars.

drmeow

(5,017 posts)
21. FAIR is an excellent resource
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 07:35 PM
Oct 2021

I've been subscribing for a few decades now (possibly starting in around 1989, definitely by 1992 or so) and they do excellent work. They didn't used to say they were progressive and have been known to call out both sides but (not surprisingly) most of their critic highlights the right wing and corporate bias of our media.

Richard58

(239 posts)
14. I totally agree!
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 07:02 PM
Oct 2021

It makes me sick to hear people lionizing Colin Powell! He is a war criminal! Just like Bush, Cheney, Rice and Rumsfeld! He lied to get us into that totally unnecessary Iraq war that cost us trillions of dollars and thousands of American lives. And at least 500,000 innocent Iraqi's died! And all for what? So the US could get its dirty hands on Iraq's oil. They should all be in prison! But no, Bush is now looked upon as a lovable old senior statesman and Powell is being treated like some sort of hero! WTF?
There will be no justice done and that is the sad truth. I wish there was a hell so Powell could rot in it! Ugh!

ybbor

(1,554 posts)
15. My feeling exactly
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 07:04 PM
Oct 2021

He lied us into a quagmire we’re still dealing with 20 years later.

Sorry, can’t get past that.

calimary

(81,220 posts)
20. Yep. I remember that day.
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 07:34 PM
Oct 2021

I remember watching him and thinking "well, dude, they sure hung YOU out to dry." And worse. He willingly submitted himself to being hung out to dry. Without question. At least as far as we know. It would have been hard but supremely honorable for all of history if he'd refused that assignment that day. And he was just the man with the stature to be able to do it. It shot his credibility all to hell. And for some of us, PERMANENTLY so.

Orrex

(63,203 posts)
26. Agreed
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 08:21 PM
Oct 2021

We all knew that this was coming, of course, especially after Powell nominally assumed the role of the moral conscience of the Republican party.

Whatever else he did before or after, he knowingly lied to the world in order to justify the invasion of Iraq. That alone should be his entire legacy.

traitorsgalore

(1,396 posts)
28. People simply overlook Powell's support of torture of human beings, it's evil
Tue Oct 19, 2021, 03:08 AM
Oct 2021

The most horrendous regimes in history are known for state sponsored torture. It's sickening how desensitized many in the U.S. have become, truly horrific.

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